Mafia TBT Mafia II: Mafia Strike Back [Game Over/Mafia Win]

[kittenrobotarmy]

Because of the chance they are innocent? I see. It's not really a strategy, just more people we should look out for. But I doubt many former Mafia members are Mafia again. But I think lurkers are a bit more bad after Thanksgiving because they don't have a reason to only be looking, so we're still watching them. But we did lynch Dolby for that and Dolby was a Townie, so we need a new strategy.

 

[FireNinja1]

True. True.

I was going to try to bail Dolby out, mainly because being a mafia is quite fun at the behinning and you get to stir up chaos. I knew a mafia wouldnt give up that easily. Beary was also a contender, so he wasnt the only one sharing the spotlight. What really sealed the deal was that he said that roleclaiming as a townie was the best role to roleclaim.

 

[kittenrobotarmy]

It's dumb to try and pretend to be a Townie if you are Mafia. Then you must support everything they do and probably end up lynching some fellow mafiaso. If you're a Townie, go out and admit it because it might save you in the long run if you're telling the truth.

 

[FireNinja1]

We have to be careful though. We need to analyze when the votes were sent in. Mafia will have a tendency to vote later on in the day toward midgame.

 

[kittenrobotarmy]

And they tend to do it silently. We should always question someone who did not give a reason for their vote. If they don't cooperate and no one stands up for them, then we can conclude they're Mafia. Too bad there's no private place for the Town to talk with the Mafia infiltrating and pretended to be aligned with the Town.

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I mean without the Mafia, not with.

 

[Superpenguin]

It's dumb to try and pretend to be a Townie if you are Mafia. Then you must support everything they do and probably end up lynching some fellow mafiaso. If you're a Townie, go out and admit it because it might save you in the long run if you're telling the truth.

Hasn't this been explained to you all ready? Townie is the best roleclaim for a mafia member. You really think the town is going to constantly hit right on the nose with a mafia lynch every single time? No, we're not, sorry. As long as there's at least one suspect for that day's lynch that's not mafia, the mafia can channel votes to them and get them lynched instead, and they'd still be viewed as townies cause the could declare the lynch an honest mistake.

Just because they say they're townie, doesn't mean they will follow the majority. We aren't always going to come to a unanimous vote for a lynch. In fact, we probably never will again. The mafia will always have tunnels to dig themselves out through, roleclaiming as townie or not.

 

[FireNinja1]

If they don't cooperate, yes, and if someone bails them out, that's another confirmed mafia as well.

 

[Superpenguin]

And they tend to do it silently. We should always question someone who did not give a reason for their vote. If they don't cooperate and no one stands up for them, then we can conclude they're Mafia. Too bad there's no private place for the Town to talk with the Mafia infiltrating and pretended to be aligned with the Town.

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I mean without the Mafia, not with.

If they don't cooperate, yes, and if someone bails them out, that's another confirmed mafia as well.

Doesn't take much to convince either of you two, does it?

 

[kittenrobotarmy]

Hasn't this been explained to you all ready? Townie is the best roleclaim for a mafia member. You really think the town is going to constantly hit right on the nose with a mafia lynch every single time? No, we're not, sorry. As long as there's at least one suspect for that day's lynch that's not mafia, the mafia can channel votes to them and get them lynched instead, and they'd still be viewed as townies cause the could declare the lynch an honest mistake.

Just because they say they're townie, doesn't mean they will follow the majority. We aren't always going to come to a unanimous vote for a lynch. In fact, we probably never will again. The mafia will always have tunnels to dig themselves out through, roleclaiming as townie or not.

I can understand that, but if they go far away from the real Town's votes often then that's definitely a sign of Mafia. They'll do anything to turn us against another Town member to hide themselves. If I were Mafia and pretending to be a Townie, I'd have to be planning to get out of every single tight spot thrown at me.

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Doesn't take much to convince either of you two, does it?

Actually, it does, but someone not cooperating and continuing to vote silently is suspicious.

 

[Superpenguin]

I can understand that, but if they go far away from the real Town's votes often then that's definitely a sign of Mafia. They'll do anything to turn us against another Town member to hide themselves. If I were Mafia and pretending to be a Townie, I'd have to be planning to get out of every single tight spot thrown at me.

Okay, so why is it dumb for them to roleclaim as townie? Should they not roleclaim at all, even if it can save their life for a few more days?

 

[kittenrobotarmy]

Besides, the Town members don't know each other. They can't bail each other out unless they already revealed their roles, which not a lot of people would do. If someone sounds extremely confident in someone else they're probably working together. Just a theory.

 

[FireNinja1]

One single misstep and you may have just have dug your grave, SP. One single misstep.

 

[kittenrobotarmy]

Okay, so why is it dumb for them to roleclaim as townie? Should they not roleclaim at all, even if it can save their life for a few more days?

They can hold out, but eventually they die anyways and could've probably lasted longer if they didn't try so hard to be a Townie.

 

[Superpenguin]

Besides, the Town members don't know each other. They can't bail each other out

This game is about trust, so yes town members can bail each other out, not just mafia members do that. If you believe someone's aligned to town and they've got massive votes against them, yeah, make a case for them and save them! Last game Justin got people to work to get votes removed from him. Justin wasn't mafia.

 

[kittenrobotarmy]

If they claim to be a Townie but are often lurking and silent, that's another clue. If they actually were a Townie, they'd be more involved because they wouldn't actually have something to hide. I'm active because I don't have anything to hide. A regular Townie probably would be unless they were trying to stay out of suspicion.

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Well, Townies can indeed bail each other out but you really need to have a good case first. If they have massive evidence against them and it's piling up, you need a really good case to bail them out.

 

[BellGreen]

If they claim to be a Townie but are often lurking and silent, that's another clue. If they actually were a Townie, they'd be more involved because they wouldn't actually have something to hide. I'm active because I don't have anything to hide. A regular Townie probably would be unless they were trying to stay out of suspicion.

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Well, Townies can indeed bail each other out but you really need to have a good case first. If they have massive evidence against them and it's piling up, you need a really good case to bail them out.

So if you more involved... You have nothing to hide? If someone were to be more involved wouldn't they make slip-ups a bit more often?

 

[Superpenguin]

If they claim to be a Townie but are often lurking and silent, that's another clue. If they actually were a Townie, they'd be more involved because they wouldn't actually have something to hide. I'm active because I don't have anything to hide.

Finally, this, this is a good post right here. Good points, good stuff. Nice job.

 

[kittenrobotarmy]

So if you more involved... You have nothing to hide? If someone were to be more involved wouldn't they make slip-ups a bit more often?

Most likely. I do that alot, but if they are posting FRANTICALLY and slip up a lot, they are trying too hard to convince people they are a Townie.

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Finally, this, this is a good post right here. Good points, good stuff. Nice job.

I feel so proud to hear that from you, SP.

 

[BellGreen]

Finally, this, this is a good post right here. Good points, good stuff. Nice job.

You treat it like Kippla never contributed anything =P

 

[Superpenguin]

If they have massive evidence against them and it's piling up, you need a really good case to bail them out.

Well, that's a what if scenario, not for certain if it will or will not happen. It'll be an individual decision as to whether or not people trust they are town or mafia, or willing to speak up against the majority.