Mafia TBT Mafia II: Mafia Strike Back [Game Over/Mafia Win]

[Superpenguin]

I agree that this day is a difficult decision because I seriously cannot tell if Beary is telling the truth or not. The whole "new player" thing could just be a huge act. My biggest concern with this is that Beary isn't trying to blame anyone else. They aren't trying to put anyone else into the spotlight. That is what confuses me about them.

People learn from their mistakes, and even more so, the mistakes of others. Hikari was randomly firing off accusations at people when he was about to get lynched. Beary obviously saw that that only made us suspect him even more. Also, in this lynch, it appears both Waffles AND Beary are being suspected, so it is still possible the town may lean toward Waffles instead which may be what Beary is hopeful of. In the case of Hikari, he was all by himself, the only accused, thus he was desperate.

 

[cannedcommunism]

Sorry, just got back from school and walking the dog.

So far I don't see anybody particularly suspicious. I think Beary's being a bit too over-examined. I've confirmed her dummy and not scummy, but other people think that she's scummy, since the quick change seems suspicious. However, it's been said many times, and they're probably just trying to blend in. Waffles just hasn't posted recently, but that's the mistake we've been making in the beginning. FireNinja1 seems most suspicious, since he's following along with every bandwagon. However, I'm just voting for him as a placeholder vote until I find somebody more suspicious.

 

[bluegoat14]

It seems like its a split between Waffles and Beary, and I personally am having a difficult time making up my mind between the two candidates. There is some evidence for both; it's too bad we don't have any strong leads this time around. I would like to see Waffles post. They may be busy, but I think it could help.

 

[Prof Gallows]

Voting for Beary again. If they turn up town then I dunno, but they're confusing the heck out of us and even though we're too far in to make sacrifices, we don't want another situation like today where we're confused between two people.

Not really a good reason, but I don't see any work around.

 

[Superpenguin]

I try my best to be here. I have an education to complete, which is worth more than any mafia game.

Back on track, beary does sort of seem to be mafia. But remember the ACE incident last time. A thought-to-be red was a blue. I'm going with ITYW, because I think it's a bit safer than voting for beary. Mafia will try to blend in better than the technique beary is using, rather, rehash ideas and misdirect people in the form of accusations.

Seriously, the whole ACE scenario from last game is irrelevant at this point of the game. Going by your logic we could apply that same scenario to Hikari's lynch. You want to know what was different between Hikari's and now potentially beary's lynch from that of ACE's? THERE IS EVIDENCE THIS TIME!

Stop referring back to ACE. That was a day one lynch with no evidence and no defense argument on ACE's part.

Seriously, Ninja, you need to elaborate more.

 

[Beary]

These are all of FireNinja's suspicious posts I could find.

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Uhm...no. You'd just agree and attempt to hide in the shadows. I still think it's dummy.

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Uhm...no. You'd just agree and attempt to hide in the shadows. I still think it's dummy.

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...and not scummy.

Uhm...not sure if you're mafia or just new. Those statements have already been concluded awhile ago.

I'm keeping my vote on Waffles for now, mainly because I don't want to withdraw it, forget to vote, and be modkilled. It's likely I will switch to someone else, because Waffles seems innocent, and it just seems like a trap made by the mafia.

I am voting for Waffles.

Beary is the easy vote. However, easy votes aren't the most strategic votes, and beary seems to just be a newbie. So I'm going with Waffles.

Uhm...I sort of predicited this.

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Anyway, what will the admin sheriff do upon hearing this? What will Tortimer Jubs do?

Agreed. Wait a second...

Anyway, I don't think that's a good strategy. Not because it targets me, but because of how improbable it is.

This. You have no evidence to support your argument. Where's the depth?!

Last game, FoxWolf voted for me 11 minutes into Day...2? He then proceeded to say that he didn't know who the mafia was. I don't know his strategy. It's old news SP.

Beary, explicitly saying that you are bandwagoning isn't good. Have some logic to your votes, and if you are bandwagoning, at least acknowledge that you know why people are being voted for.

She made two separate arguments to save both of us, which was, ultimately, her downfall.

Can we vote for ourselves in the election?

At this point, I think I'll shut up for now and put in my occasional comments until the game starts, like ACE. I only meant for some things to be a joke, and then you guys take it seriously. I'm not blaming it on you guys; I'm blaming it on myself for not being more clear.

##Vote ACE (lol jk)

Voting for Beary again. If they turn up town then I dunno, but they're confusing the heck out of us and even though we're too far in to make sacrifices, we don't want another situation like today where we're confused between two people.

Not really a good reason, but I don't see any work around.

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Ahem, excuse your quote Gallows. My mistake xD

 

[Superpenguin]

These are all of FireNinja's suspicious posts I could find.

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Ahem, excuse your quote Gallows. My mistake xD

You still have some questions to answer, beary.

This game is not to be taken personally. :/

And why are you taking the game seriously now? Is it because you know you are a necessity to the mafia?

But why would you be so hesitant still in voting Hikari after his major slip up in role claiming Miller?

 

[FireNinja1]

These are all of FireNinja's suspicious posts I could find.

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Ahem, excuse your quote Gallows. My mistake xD

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Yeah, um, the latter three were pregame. These look like nothing more than random posts made by, ripped out of the page, and stuck into a single post. Congrats, you now have my vote, for providing irrelevant evidence. I have nothing to hide, guys.

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EBWOP *made by me

 

[BlueLeaf]

Beary: Something tells me you're shifting attention from you to FireNinja. As said numerous times, when under suspicion, don't suspect others, protect yourself. Waffles and you need to protect yourselves. Deja Vu much? My vote will stick to you as there's not much to lose. The post I made a 2 pages ago mentions the reason why I'm voting for you:

Like people have been saying, Hikari and Creeper have been defending Beary, both of these two being Mafia. Obviously, these two would be stupid to defend Beary out of kindness, so I'll most likely vote for Beary.

Hikari and Creeper were Mafia, and they defended you. When someone defends another person, it gives a dead giveaway to a friendship link. Mafia would be stupid to defend someone out of heart. I haven't seen anyone defend Hikari and/or Creeper, but some posts give a hint to this:

From this:

This is my first game, gosh...
I'm sorry Hikari, I kind of believe you, but I have to vote for you, for there is to much evidence against you. :C
If i'm wrong, I am sorry.

To this:

I am sp glad we have gotten rid of another mafia!
4 to go, correct?
Anyways, great job all! Let us sit through the night and hope that not as much devastation will happen tomorrow.

This is a big turning point. From "I'm sorry..." to "Hooray!" This is a sign of trying too hard to blend in. You didn't have to vote for Hikari if you didn't want to. Back to the present: Try and find quotes or something that will prove you innocent for certain.

 

[cannedcommunism]

These are all of FireNinja's suspicious posts I could find.

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Ahem, excuse your quote Gallows. My mistake xD

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I'm sorry, but your bandwagoning off of my vote? You seriously shouldn't agree with everyone. And those aren't even suspicious, I was talking about a whole different aspect.

 

[Superpenguin]

So people actually did roleclaim as Bodyguard with more than two PMs lol. I think it was one of the Mafia or just a desperate Townie.

I'm tempted to think that they are a desperate town player (not sure whether they are Townie) who fear for their life, after going back & reading what happened. =P

Haha. =P Yeah. That's why it was easy to discard.

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I say this again though, I do not know for certain whether this person actually is a Townie or not. That is just what they role-claimed as automatically when they said they were a "bodyguard". So it's all that we can assume right now.

Now I KNOW who sent the bodyguard PM. She fits all the criteria in mind as of now.

In case anyone is still on the fence and needs more evidence toward beary. Remember, she has roleclaimed to THREE different roles.

-Townie
-Veteran
-Body Guard

I am not sure of the correct order in which she roleclaimed, but I am pretty confident it went:

1.) Townie
2.) Body Guard
3.) Veteran

If that order is correct, Beary's arguments are invalid.

I roleclaimed townie before because I thought that people on the town side were called townies, wether or not they were green or blue.

I am a veteran.
Go ahead. Lose another blue player.
I cant stop you, apparently. You are WAY to focused on me, yknow.
There are mafia out there.
I AM NO MAFIA.

If she truly was a Veteran, then there was no way she could be a Body Guard like she said she was. She's far too inconsistent and a danger to have around in this game.

 

[iLoveYou]

I'm going to put in my vote for Beary509. I was hoping for evidence to pop up but the person isn't posting (shocker), so this makes things hard. Not to mention I have work all day tomorrow, which puts me in a position to vote now or get modkilled.

Literally every day the Town is taking down Beary509. This helps the Mafia stay hidden as the thread's main focus has always been "Beary509: guilty or not". It just sucks that we are potentially going to lose a Veteran, as she so claims. She could have made the Mafia waste hits on her at least (assuming Veteran). After reading the posts though, several people seem to be fine with it & feel like it's about time.

Another reason why I am voting for Beary509 is because (I mentioned this before) this lynch should benefit the Town members regardless. If Beary509 is Mafia, then good on us. If Beary509 is a Veteran then, at least we got out our biggest distraction out of the way. It's not worth watching this thread continuously take on Beary509. Now that we have no leads, I guess there's not much we can do than make another "hit or miss" lynch.

Also the evidence is much stronger on Beary509's side as opposed to iTookYourWaffles' side, when it comes down to the two of them. Even though the evidence may not be correct (is she just playing poorly as a newbie or not?), there is not much else we can go on right now.

 

[Superpenguin]

So, what exactly are you, beary?

 

[Beary]

WHEN DID I ROLECLAIM BODYGUARD?
Show me the exact post.

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I am a Veteran.
I COULD be useful, if you were not making so much drama...

 

[iLoveYou]

WHEN DID I ROLECLAIM BODYGUARD?
Show me the exact post.

You role claimed all three times to me via PM.

What still confuses me is how you could get a blue role mixed up with a green role. Our roles are highlighted in their colour when we receive them from the host (via PM). :l

I hope for the sake of Town that you actually aren't a Veteran. We need Mafia to waste hits and we need more time to delay them. Your role as Veteran could have helped us, if you really do die a Veteran.

 

[Superpenguin]

WHEN DID I ROLECLAIM BODYGUARD?
Show me the exact post.

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I am a Veteran.
I COULD be useful, if you were not making so much drama...

You didn't roleclaim in the thread, but it is pretty obvious it was you who claimed it through PM...

http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...-Strike-Back&p=1995062&viewfull=1#post1995062

You were a "Supposed Townie" and obviously after being a prime suspect in the first lynch, you obviously were fearing for your life and wanted that protection a Body Guard would have. The fact that Kayla said she doesn't know whether this person actually was a townie or not clarifies that it was more than likely YOU because Dolby was D-E-A-D!

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WHEN DID I ROLECLAIM BODYGUARD?
Show me the exact post.

You role claimed all three times to me via PM.

The fact that you are trying to deny your roleclaims only increases my suspicions.

 

[MyLifeIsCake]

Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and vote Beary, the fact they role claimed not once, but three times makes me tres tres suspicious of them. Plus, they are shining the light off the mafia players and just jumbling the thread, it really should have been sooner at this point...

 

[cannedcommunism]

Dear beary509,

I have ultimately decided to vote for you. To start, there's the quick transfer from dumb to smart, probably because your an important mafioso and you don't want to screw up for the sake of the mafia. And now, you've become so desperate to defend yourself, you're nearly underwater, and struggling way too hard. I suggest if you really are who you say you are, prove it to all of us.

Sincerely,
FoxWolf64

 

[MyLifeIsCake]

Also wanting protection form the sheriff with a pity claim as bodyguard is pretty downright pathetic. Plus the fact that she already role claimed as a townie, then bodyguard, and now a blue role in order to gain pity is a weak move. Bodyguards are chosen from the remaining TOWNIES, so how could you have already been a townie and bodyguard, and suddenly be a veteran? (Correct me if I'm wrong, but that's what I got)

 

[Beary]

I knew that she was sheriff, but it was not for protection.
I was frustrated and needed some help with the game. AND SHE PMED ME FIRST.
I have never said I was bodyguard.
iLoveYou can confirm they I did not role claim through PM that to her.