Mafia TBT Mafia ~ The Binding of Isaac ~ Town Wins!

[Heyden]

Well I still feel like it could be Daniel due to his history/meta. In GoT mafia as Goon, he was very defensive and aggressive, and the game right after (Papers Please), he was basically the opposite and was townie. Right now I'm leaning in the middle but I'm not sure. I have a feeling it could be Ness too, his posts seem very unnatural or forced I guess? I don't really know how to explain it and it's not enough yet, I'll look into Ness during Night 1/Day 2 depending.

 

[Chrystina]

Okay, well my vote is in. Reasoning for Trojan being I haven't seen really any posts/contribution from them at all since day 1 except the couple "d1 lynch" posts. Obviously there are other users who are just now posting/have yet to post (hell I haven't even contributed much), but since Trojan has been viewing the thread and not posting since roles were handed out, is suspicious to me.
I'm probably way off on this, but the other votes I had in mind I'd like to wait out.

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*have in mind

 

[N e s s]

##VOTE: N e s s

##Vote: N e s s

*shrugs shoulders*

If i'm being policy lynched Day 1 then oh well, nothing unusual I guess

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Although, i'd really not like to be the lynch today so i'm gonna make a case on Daniel.

 

[N e s s]

Ok so i'm dead rn but if i don't post this now i'll never be able to post it. I think that Call me Daniel is mafia. Lets start off with meta, with 1 game as scum the other as town.

Spoiler: Town meta

I would definitely say Crys is not Mafia aligned, but they could still be Third Party.

Ender is great at hiding his connections with his teammates as scum. Just because he voted Jacob does not mean he would be cleared. Honestly, I'm having trouble understanding this whole Jailer thing, I don't recall Sataric voicing enough suspicion to want to interrogate ender.

I'm all for lynching Jacob, but there's bigger fish to fry. Keeping my vote on Jacob though, unless my head will clear out on all this PMs and QTs going on behind our backs.

Honestly not a fan of PM games, they make everything much more complicated and secretive than I'm comfortable with.

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They don't need to vote for Ender soley because it's the popular lynch. I'd rather they vote on who they think is more likely scum, then to just bandwagon.

Alrighty guys, time for your favorite time of the day! My ISO is here! *Insert kawaii Japanese emoji* I'm going to do one of them now, I'll do my ISO on Panda tomorrow.

Spoiler: Jacob

- In short words, he does very little to contribute.In almost all of his post, he gives an excuse of his absence or lack of providing concrete opinions.
Let us look at a few of the unnecessary excuses he gives us instead of actually playing shall we?



This to me, seems like typical noobish scum behavior. Trying to slip under the radar, but feels that they must give reason to further avoid detection.
In the actual playing posts he has, they seem very unconfident and lazy.

No it doesn't, don't back off just because someone has an excuse for their odd behavior does not mean your read is worthless. Seems to be a weak press on Trojan, and backs off quickly to not be responsible for leading a lynch on town.

I cannot even begin to say how illogical this sounds. You aren't against a policy lynch, but at the same time are as you believe Tom's case is weak? But "I'm not motivating" is a strong enough reason to vote? Not following.


Not only does the "I'm not as skilled" appears to me as "I'm not as good so I'm playing bad because of that!". but the reason of voting is very flawed. While voting for an inactive isn't a problem with me, the fact that the reason for lynching an inactive overturns the Trojan vote sits as well with me as spoiled milk. While i personally like Trojan, lynching him because he quiet frankly is terrible town is a hell of a lot better reason to vote then just an inactive. Honestly, I stopped reading his post after a while because it's all fluff(no offense.)

Overall, something does not sit well with me. I see his gameplay as screaming new inexperienced scum.

This is who i believe has the most evidence and definitely a good lynch candidate, but I honestly don't see him as a threat other then for the KP he's worth. I'm more in favor of finding the more experienced scum leader(s). Once we kill them, the others will surely show their true colors if they have no guidance. In the process of pinning down who i think they would be, leaning towards Ender honestly. I believe Panda is scum too, but this 1 ISO took so long so I'll do her's tomorrow, get ready Panda!

I see nothing wrong with his post. Was it soley because he voted for you? He held out on naming anyone on his vote and had a point in having a lynch is better then no lynch at all. I see it as him trying to help town, I can't agree with your train of thought on his lynch.

When CMD is town, he makes logically, well thought out posts that are generally just plain logical and not out of the ordinary. He actually helps town quiet a bit when he's town, like all of these quotes being town tells.

Spoiler: Mafia meta

Panda- Really unsettling this game. She hasn?t contributed much, demands other peoples? reads when not doing any herself, and went into mysterious silence now.

In the beginning of the game she was just continually asking why Tom was king(not to the extent of Kit?s rage over it), asking how kingmaker works, and just overall didn?t do much the first half of D1 but posted plenty.


She?s ranting how she wants to find scum, but with her wasting her time with weeny and trojan(who was a troll and trojan who (doesn't do much to help, at times he comes through, but for the most part he's just.... there. ha). this to me, just looks like she?s trying to act like she?s scumhunting and appeal to town, when in reality she?s just doing nothing but posting with no content.


Really weird comment. I don?t understand why she would say this.



Oh okay I?m suspicious for not spamming as much now? but you going completely quiet for 2 days is okay?

This is like the only time she voices her opinions, and it still isn?t much other than ?I don?t think they?re mafia? Which really doesn?t help town much.



Says she wants either me or ness lynched.



But now i guess it?s time to drop it and vote llamas. Maybe because if she votes for them she won?t be held responsible for the llama lynch. But if she voted for ness or me, she would be questioned for the mislynch.


All of the sudden very keen on wanting llama dead without stating why she does.


But isn?t that what you do isos for? To get who you thought was scum lynched? seems like backing off to me.


She doesn?t seem too disappointed or sad about the mislynch. Why did you want them lynched so badly that you forgot about me and ness?

After this is her commenting on Tina and Meg?s drinking night and posting memes of waiting for ness?s post. But then after this is total silence. She has indeed been online lurking recently, and it?s very unlike panda to just not say anything when there?s a lot to comment on. I think it?s just her going into the shadows hoping she?ll avoid being talked about, but not anymore.

So yeah, my priority suspicion is Panda. If you need me to elaborate on any of them let me know.

I'd like to take a minute to note that this entire scum ISO he made on Panda in this game is incredibly similar to our current situation.

I would like to point out that Lucanosa did not say anything after his first post.

Blu Rose also said "we found scum <3", but never said who or why after the Llama lynch.

I mean ness, the same can be said about you too. You don't post anything useful and when you were set to be lynched you were switching from being okay with being lynched and


wanting another candidate lynched because they suddenly became suspicious of you. Easy candidate to want to kill to save your skin.

Honestly, I think you're town because you role claimed, but saying you're suspicious of me for the same stuff you did is stupid.

I mean, townie is the easiest and safest role to claim since no one can counter claim and they're important.

If you aren't providing opinions, then what are you really even doing for town then?

These lynch candidates confuse me, I'm pretty sure it isn't kit anymore for not changing at all after being pressured.
So her being the top voted makes no sense anymore.
Still think it's llama.

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Panda I think because I can't post as much as I could from previous game makes me a priority lynch makes little sense.

****posting

Really off, but i can't put my finger on it. More like saying, it's okay we get a few mislynches.

Stating the obvious.

Seems like a really fake statement, so bland.

Not getting a good feeling from them, hasn't really contributed and only posted the obvious to make it seem like they're there when they haven't done much.

Daniel usually goes after whomever he thinks is weakest in the thread, this game namely being Panda and Lucanosa He also makes really bad cases on people, and even looking at his Panda case this game, its literally exactly the same situation as we're in here with him and her.

With that done lets go to our in game behavior.

I think lucanosa or Rune raider would be a good lynch out of gut suspicions and we wouldn't lose great players if we lynched one of them.

Like I said, he has some huge wash here. He says this 20 minutes before shifting right towards panda.

To be honest, it seems panda is trying too hard to seem town. She's posting way to much with little content, i even ignored some of her posts because they're so pointless and too many. It just seems to me like new scum trying to appear town.

This looks incredibly familiar to this first part of the case he made on Panda in Game of thrones~

Panda- Really unsettling this game. She hasn?t contributed much, demands other peoples? reads when not doing any herself, and went into mysterious silence now.

I'm gonna go onto the biggest reason I think that Call me Daniel is scum right now, this post.

I'm thinking Lucanosa joked vote me for that "Lynch Dannyboi D2" tag. No one else calls me that but him and he's the one who mentioned that unfunny meme in the past. He realized that if he just said he joked voted me, people would be suspicious and claimed it was as a "placeholder". He was modkilled as scum for not voting, but he could just actually play well and vote on a suspicious person instead of a "random person". Which to pick me out of all people seems off.

Lucanosa has only been scum in 1 game, that was Forest Fire. This quote, this quote makes me think he is scum.
people would be suspicious and claimed it was as a "placeholder".
I highly doubt that Lucanosa would be quick enough to think of something like this to say, and this is looking like Daniel trying to go after Lucanosa since he's a weak target. Even looking at the post where he says "placeholder" seems to be genuine right now. let me go get it~

Because I don't want to get modkilled from not voting. I received quite a few warnings on the last game, so that's why. It's just a placeholder LOL if you want me to change it I will.

I see this as Lucanosa's genuine town behavior now. I think that Lucanosa is town, and that Daniel is scum in our situation. This is a bit of a blunted list because i'm tired as hell right now.

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Ok so i'm dead rn but if i don't post this now i'll never be able to post it. I think that Call me Daniel is mafia. Lets start off with meta, with 1 game as scum the other as town.

Spoiler: Town meta

When CMD is town, he makes logically, well thought out posts that are generally just plain logical and not out of the ordinary. He actually helps town quiet a bit when he's town, like all of these quotes being town tells.

Spoiler: Mafia meta

I'd like to take a minute to note that this entire scum ISO he made on Panda in this game is incredibly similar to our current situation.









Daniel usually goes after whomever he thinks is weakest in the thread, this game namely being Panda and Lucanosa He also makes really bad cases on people, and even looking at his Panda case this game, its literally exactly the same situation as we're in here with him and her.

With that done lets go to our in game behavior.



Like I said, he has some huge wash here. He says this 20 minutes before shifting right towards panda.



This looks incredibly familiar to this first part of the case he made on Panda in Game of thrones~


I'm gonna go onto the biggest reason I think that Call me Daniel is scum right now, this post.


Lucanosa has only been scum in 1 game, that was Forest Fire. This quote, this quote makes me think he is scum.
people would be suspicious and claimed it was as a "placeholder".
I highly doubt that Lucanosa would be quick enough to think of something like this to say, and this is looking like Daniel trying to go after Lucanosa since he's a weak target. Even looking at the post where he says "placeholder" seems to be genuine right now. let me go get it~

I see this as Lucanosa's genuine town behavior now. I think that Lucanosa is town, and that Daniel is scum in our situation. This is a bit of a blunted list because i'm tired as hell right now.

Also forgot to mention:

-Panda is obvious townie and Daniel is still voting her
-Daniel is also suspicious of Lucanosa yet he isn't voting him
-Daniel is mainly suspicious of Panda just because she has been "spamming".

 

[Sataric]

I can relate to this.

I apologize if i have been inactive and was not helping in the progression of the scum hunt, i have been busy as **** (Sorry for the profanity, i have been driven nuts due to the topic i'm going to bring up, my immensely petulant friend, and some hard work i have to do with my other friend) due to my Final Exams.

All i'm seeing is what i usually see in Day 1 of every single Mafia game i play, some people do a random joke vote and it eventually escalates to some enlargement which seems to stall the scumhunt in a fashion. I'm not planning on voting Panda but if she does any actions which contradicts my view on her which is starting to show judging by her actions, then i'll put my two cents in for a consideration of a Panda lynch.

Sayonara!

Please note that editing your posts in Mafia games is not allowed. (Except by the host) - Kindly do not do it again.

 

[Trojan]

1- I somewhat agree with Ness on Daniel. It's weird how they said that Lucanosa and Rune were the best lynches then just voted Panda.
2- Lucanosa please explain yourself. This crap with voting someone because they defended someone who was joking is not a reason to vote for someone
3- I have two votes on me and I have no idea why. I will forgive them though since they are new.

 

[PandaDarling]

I'm placing my vote on Ness for the reasons I've stated perviously, I;d be ok with a Ness or a Daniel lynch atm. also I've set my alarm early enough to walk up and see any progress in the game and change my vote if I feel I need to. only half of us have voted so far, so anything can happen.

 

[Damniel]

@Ness's post
Weren't you the one didn't want meta to be a big thing for cases anymore. I've been experimenting with my playstyle lately.

What I said about Lucanosa and Rune was out of Policy Lynch, Panda was just a tiny thing in the back of my head. But after Meow's case, I saw that my suspicions had actual weight, so I decided to go with suspicions than policy lynch.

I never said I was suspicious of Lucanosa, I was weighing in on the topic of lucanosa's early vote, which seems to be the main reason for his lynch. I gave reason on why he could have voted, I did not imply he was Mafia.

I was lynched as town in Smash Bros Mafia for voting many reasons, but voting early as a place holder was one of them I believe. Or people questioned by logic, something of that sort. I knew that early place holding voting can be used against you, it's from past experience.

Just because I do not agree that panda is town does not make me scum, did the same last game too.

I'm suspicious of panda for spamming, yes. It's just a distraction that serves no purpose. When I woke up to see the pages of unimportant convo with panda, I barely bothered to read it but I forced myself to. Sadly really all of it just proved my point how much she needs to condense her posts. The spam not only makes it seem like she's trying to look like she's helping when she's not, but it also just gives just all too much to read and may scare away noobies from reading it all and posting.

 

[EpicGamer12]

Dad led a lynch on a noobie for saying "Uhh" in Smash Mafia. Wording does matter because it can easily be used against you.

LOL thanks for the reminder. Had a good laugh to start my morning.

@Ness: In regards to your wording, it sounds like you are not town and trying to refer to the town. I actually made this mistake in an early mafia game if I remember correctly and was lynched because of it. One reason I think that you actually are mafia at this point is because you got so defensive about it. I genuinely feel there is a strong chance of you being mafia.

 

[Heyden]

I'm not being intimidating to the town, the only post I made that is rude is that one I made towards Alexi.

are u town?

 

[illunie]

I have my suspicions for both Daniel and Lucanosa, but since I don't really favor one over the other in terms of lynches, and I see a greater chance of Daniel being lynched than Lucanosa, I put my vote on Daniel. See you guys in the morning.

 

[EpicGamer12]

Now that I'm caught up, I actually agree with Ness' arguments. I also have something to add about behaviour.

- When Call Me Daniel plays as town, he plays a lot less serious. You often see jokes, memes, or just more lighthearted wording of posts.
- When Call Me Daniel plays as scum, he plays more serious. He is down to the point (even if his point isn't very good), direct, and actively searching for "scum".

There have been a few games with small exceptions to this. The only issue with the whole scenario is that I am currently reading his posts as town regardless of how he is playing.

 

[Arstotzkan]

Panda do you have anything you want to say on my long post to you? Did you not notice it or would you like to pass it off as nothing?

Would you like to reply to my point of hypocrisy against you?

@Sarasa What actions is she doing that reminds you of last game?

oh I actually didn't even realize you did that in that game. even if I did, Jacob was already really contradicting/scummy so I would've probably ignored it anyway

Besides the bandwagony nature of the lynch, the main reason I could gleam from the bandwagon against me is this exact sotuation - I was posting too much, flooding the thread, and that was seen as suspicious enough for a D1 lynch.

Gonna grab Ayayas quote thing real quick, but I gotta leave for achool soon.

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Next to join the discussion is SarasaKat. She mentioned she wanted to change her playstyle before the game started yet I'm seeing the same playstyle as in Papers Please here, which in that game made me think she's suspicious because she posts a lot to make it harder for town to find info. Though unlike Papers Please, half of the players are not posting as much so she did get a discussion going now. She also made newbies feel welcome and speak up which is good. Null for now but I hope you're town mom instead of scum mom this game lol.

Really? I've actually held back in my posting this time. That's funny you say that.

Also if you're going to be using meta arguements, I was town that game soo.

 

[N e s s]

are u town?

Isn't it strange how you say this and voted me, when you clearly say this about Daniel earlier?

Well I still feel like it could be Daniel due to his history/meta. In GoT mafia as Goon, he was very defensive and aggressive, and the game right after (Papers Please), he was basically the opposite and was townie. Right now I'm leaning in the middle but I'm not sure. I have a feeling it could be Ness too, his posts seem very unnatural or forced I guess? I don't really know how to explain it and it's not enough yet, I'll look into Ness during Night 1/Day 2 depending.

Why do you want to look into me later, say you want to lynch Daniel, and then vote for me? Because if you're choosing to go after over a gramatical error and lynch me because of this i'm going to be salty as hell.

 

[Heyden]

Isn't it strange how you say this and voted me, when you clearly say this about Daniel earlier?



Why do you want to look into me later, say you want to lynch Daniel, and then vote for me? Because if you're choosing to go after over a gramatical error and lynch me because of this i'm going to be salty as hell.

am i scum 2 u bc thats totally fine if u think so <3

 

[N e s s]

@Ness's post
Weren't you the one didn't want meta to be a big thing for cases anymore. I've been experimenting with my playstyle lately.

What I said about Lucanosa and Rune was out of Policy Lynch, Panda was just a tiny thing in the back of my head. But after Meow's case, I saw that my suspicions had actual weight, so I decided to go with suspicions than policy lynch.

I never said I was suspicious of Lucanosa, I was weighing in on the topic of lucanosa's early vote, which seems to be the main reason for his lynch. I gave reason on why he could have voted, I did not imply he was Mafia.

I was lynched as town in Smash Bros Mafia for voting many reasons, but voting early as a place holder was one of them I believe. Or people questioned by logic, something of that sort. I knew that early place holding voting can be used against you, it's from past experience.

Just because I do not agree that panda is town does not make me scum, did the same last game too.

I'm suspicious of panda for spamming, yes. It's just a distraction that serves no purpose. When I woke up to see the pages of unimportant convo with panda, I barely bothered to read it but I forced myself to. Sadly really all of it just proved my point how much she needs to condense her posts. The spam not only makes it seem like she's trying to look like she's helping when she's not, but it also just gives just all too much to read and may scare away noobies from reading it all and posting.

I like how he opens up with "weren't you the one who didn't want to use meta for cases anymore" no. I never said this. I did say that meta is often overly used and isn't the best scum hunting tool, but you're showing through the roughage right now.

and again, Shrugs shoulders
I'm alright with being lynched, however problem is that you lose your first town member this game. No big deal though, because i've already found scum that can die to eve tonight.

What I said about Lucanosa and Rune was out of Policy Lynch, Panda was just a tiny thing in the back of my head. But after Meow's case, I saw that my suspicions had actual weight, so I decided to go with suspicions than policy lynch.

I highly doubt this is true, lets look at that suggestion? You say nowhere its a policy lynch, but instead that you have a "gut feeling" about them. May I add they're both weak targets?

I think lucanosa or Rune raider would be a good lynch out of gut suspicions and we wouldn't lose great players if we lynched one of them.

Then of course, he says "oh i never IMPLIED that he was mafia, but we should totally lynch him! Perfectly fine and accecptable if I don't say he's "mafia" right?" Bull****. this is a huge load of bull**** that he's striding out here.

Also, you were lynched in smash mafia because you were a BulletProof, and you were just asking to be lynched by making a **** case on Kit. Seriously, you could have won that game but you instead acted like a Vengeful/Jester instead when you weren't.

This whole last paragraph looks as if he's not even saying he's suspicious of Panda, he just wants her gone because she's annoying and spams the thread.

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am i scum 2 u bc thats totally fine if u think so <3

I don't, its just someting to note

 

[Damniel]

Not in the mood to bicker with ness, wouldn't want to hit a nerve with arguing that post ^

 

[Heyden]

Not in the mood to bicker with ness, wouldn't want to hit a nerve with arguing that post ^

can u try

 

[N e s s]

Not in the mood to bicker with ness, wouldn't want to hit a nerve with arguing that post ^

Yeah because your scum

 

[Ayaya]

1. there were like 120+ replies i needed to catch up on, i was reading fast and i mustve skipped over that
2. it was more of a reaction test, I've suggested no lynch or PL in previous games D1 so my plan was to compare people's thoughts on it.

As for now, I'm a little happy the bickering calmed a little bit, but my top lynch candidate is N e s s because if he continues to be this way i'm not gonna wanna keep playing w him. I get that mafia is intense but fam gettin angry over nothing

i get thats not a good reason so I am like rereading everyone's reads on eachother and posts to try to come up w a better lynch candidate

1. So you were just skimming then?
2. That's an odd time to do a reaction test. What result were you hoping for and what conclusion did you get?

So you said the PL/no lynch was just a reaction test but here you're basing your vote on Ness on PL. Someone getting angry in a mafia game isn't enough reason to vote, especially when Ness is known to be emotional even as town.

That reminds me that you were behaving similarly in Papers Please as mafia where you suggested (or something similar) lynching an inactive and ended up voting for an inactive despite at that time lynch candidates were brought up.

Really? I've actually held back in my posting this time. That's funny you say that.

Also if you're going to be using meta arguements, I was town that game soo.

Actually I was just using meta to point out that you're behaving similarly as you are in Papers Please and didn't want to make that mistake again assuming you're scum purely out of filler posts, hence the "(...) she did get a discussion going now. She also made newbies feel welcome and speak up which is good." part.