Mafia TBT Mafia V: There and Back Again [Game Over/Town Win]

[EpicGamer12]

Okay, what about it is not factual?
Please, point this out, oh wise one.

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Did I not say I would rip apart people's posts?

What I don't understand is why you lied to me about being in contact with beary509. How would that benefit you in any way? Why were you looking for blue roles? You seem to be neglecting to answer that.

 

[Blu Rose]

What I don't understand is why you lied to me about being in contact with beary509. How would that benefit you in any way? Why were you looking for blue roles? You seem to be neglecting to answer that.

I thought it would benefit me more, at the time.
I questioned Kayla because I thought she was the Serial Killer.
I questioned you because of Beary.

 

[Ashtot]

I thought it would benefit me more, at the time.
I questioned Kayla because I thought she was the Serial Killer.
I questioned you because of Beary.

You still aren't answering the countless questions you've been asked which gives us even more of a reason to not trust you.

 

[EpicGamer12]

I thought it would benefit me more, at the time.
I questioned Kayla because I thought she was the Serial Killer.
I questioned you because of Beary.

Why are you suspicious of Jer, Lunatic, and TheCreeperHugz?

 

[BellGreen]

Why are you suspicious of Jer, Lunatic, and TheCreeperHugz?

Hopefully Blu responds after Day 197; he has been delaying this so much.

 

[toastia]

He's probably working his butt off trying to get a case off of them. He found a way to accuse me, but his evidence wasn't that good to begin with.
Probably trying to make more of an effort this time. Wants to do a better job on them than he did on me.

 

[Blu Rose]

He's probably working his butt off trying to get a case off of them. He found a way to accuse me, but his evidence wasn't that good to begin with.
Probably trying to make more of an effort this time. Wants to do a better job on them than he did on me.

I took forever on you, so, stop undermining me. What you could say about your case applies to Waffles' case in Game IV that I made.

I suspect Lunatic and TheCreeperHugz because they both voted "No Lynch" on Day 1, and this just screamed Mafia to me, but apparently, me only.

 

[iLoveYou]

Does Prin voting for Blu Rose make anyone else nervous?

I have not forgotten about the way I voted for Blu Rose on Day One & how Prin jumped on that. Neither have I forgotten how she was the last vote on Dolby.

KarlaKGB insists that he believes Mafia would not be brave enough to submit the last vote (Prin) nor the second last vote (Justin). Unfortunately I see that as a way to cover up for bad Mafia play from a fellow Mafia player (potentially Prin).

Particularly FanousOnTheLoose & Prin make me nervous when I vote for someone and it makes me want to switch my vote. :/ For now my vote will stay on Blu Rose, but honestly we have to consider what will happen if Blu Rose dies a Townie as he is claiming. Nothing in his defense makes me feel he is Mafia or Town aligned unfortunately. This lynch is still too much of a hit-or-miss. :L I know generally most lynches will be that way, but I want to hit red so bad. <|3

If any Town players can help us and steer us in a better direction that would really help for Day Two, before we lose more good players tonight. I know Mafia KP = 2 now but still.

With FanousOnTheLoose, he voted near the time when KarlaKGB voted. He is now convinced on voting for Blu Rose. He is simply relying on other peoples' explanations & evidences to submit his votes early which bothers me a little bit. I know that a good portion of the Town does that, but he's jumping on quickly to names .. as Oath2Order did with Dolby.

This was KarlaKGB's list of potential Mafia players:

BellBringerGreen
Beary509
Tom
SirGanatar
Justin
Prin
Blu Rose
You
Jeremy

Those 3 bolded names are who we generally find the most suspicious, right? Two of them are in contact with eachother (Beary509 + Blu Rose). Those two have made PMs which coincidentally explain a lot of the Mafia's moves that were done on Night One. The problem is that, these exchanges ONLY happened through PMs and no one else knew about it. So, if it somehow got back to the Mafia it's because one of them is Mafia and told their team. Otherwise, this whole situation is a huge coincidence.

We have Prin, who has been interested in targeting Blu Rose since Day One and immediately fell for my trap on Blu Rose (assuming he is not Mafia himself). She did have suspicions on him. But, as Blu Rose pointed out:

I am the unspoken person pointing a finger to Blu Rose. If scum are scared of standing out, wanting to go unnoticed, why am I doing this instead of just lurking? Aren't mafia supposed to stay away and try to avoid posting? Aren't I doing the exact opposite? If I was mafia, I would probably be the same. Being a new player may make me suspicious, because you aren't exactly 100% certain how I play. But I think you need a little more evidence before you start lynching me. You'll probably be lynching Town.

This feels like someone trying to play as Town, playing as Mafia. It's like you're trying to put checkmarks on your checklist of general Mafia behaviour and saying "this is what Mafia does .. this is not what I am doing .. so I am not Mafia". Not to mention the poor word choice of "probably lynching Town".

This was who KarlaKGB highlighted as being potential Mafia players to help get Dolby out:

Dolby (14)
Kuma
Oath2order
FanousOnTheLoose
KarlaKGB [ died Godfather lel ]
Minties
Trundle [ got hit + protected last night ]
Tina [ died Town Reviver ]
Superpenguin
BellBringerGreen
Beary509
Tom
SirGanatar
Justin
Prin

we should focus on that list of people and clear/condemn them asap, through checks, behavioural analysis and even vig shots on some of scummier-looking lurkers.

I think if Beary509 + Prin were Mafia he wouldn't suggest for them to be candidates for inspection & Vigilante hits. If we use reverse Psychology, this could be one of the few first steps he would take in sacrificing a weaker Mafia player (knowing that a Mafia player from his team did in fact vote towards the end) to gain trust from Town.

What I'm saying is, these 3 names need to be looked into as soon as possible.

 

[Blu Rose]

I suspect Jer as more of a fleeting suspicion. A gut instinct.

But, I haven't made his case too public due to this.

 

[Beary]

I'm also going to vote for Blu Rose to be lynched due to her lying to me about being in cahoots with Beary, and when it comes to Beary, I'm still suspicious. Right now it looks that either one or both of them are mafia.

If He's mafia, I will throw my computer out the window. I'm very sure that neither of us is mafia. The REAL mafia are getting what they want, a nice distraction to keep them out if the spotlight.

Hmm you're sounding kinda like Beary, what a coincidence.

Wow, great observation! What can you tell us that will help us, now?

Yes, we need to get as much information out of you in case you really are Town and avoid lynching you if possible.

Did anyone contact you about me or Trundle? If so, what did you say? What did they ask you?

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Are you speaking with anyone besides Beary509?

I can confirm that Blu Rose has PMed me multiple times, along with 3 other people.
I am not going to list those people, as they may be very mad. .-.


I don't think that all of your suspicions of me should be dropped. Any one of us could be mafia, other then the confirmed town sided players.

 

[iLoveYou]

Beary509 & Blu Rose:

One of you are in contact with a red player, in my opinion. Last night the Mafia made specific moves which match up with the PMs you two were exchanging. Again, I do not know how much of a coincidence all of this really is.

Advice: Immediately stop contacting each other through PM. Play with the confirmed Town players before they die tonight.

Beary509, it would be in Town's best interest to know who you are speaking with (You say there are 3 others involved). If those players are Town players then they should have nothing to worry about.

 

[toastia]

Does Prin voting for Blu Rose make anyone else nervous?

I have not forgotten about the way I voted for Blu Rose on Day One & how Prin jumped on that. Neither have I forgotten how she was the last vote on Dolby.

I had my own suspicions on Blu Rose before you posted. It just so happens that you posted after I had made my final decision. Which turned out not to be my final decision.

KarlaKGB insists that he believes Mafia would not be brave enough to submit the last vote (Prin) nor the second last vote (Justin). Unfortunately I see that as a way to cover up for bad Mafia play from a fellow Mafia player (potentially Prin).

If I was on her suspicion list, why would she cover up for me?

Particularly FanousOnTheLoose & Prin make me nervous when I vote for someone and it makes me want to switch my vote. :/ For now my vote will stay on Blu Rose, but honestly we have to consider what will happen if Blu Rose dies a Townie as he is claiming. Nothing in his defense makes me feel he is Mafia or Town aligned unfortunately. This lynch is still too much of a hit-or-miss. :L I know generally most lynches will be that way, but I want to hit red so bad. <|3

If any Town players can help us and steer us in a better direction that would really help for Day Two, before we lose more good players tonight. I know Mafia KP = 2 now but still.

With FanousOnTheLoose, he voted near the time when KarlaKGB voted. He is now convinced on voting for Blu Rose. He is simply relying on other peoples' explanations & evidences to submit his votes early which bothers me a little bit. I know that a good portion of the Town does that, but he's jumping on quickly to names .. as Oath2Order did with Dolby.

This was KarlaKGB's list of potential Mafia players:



Those 3 bolded names are who we generally find the most suspicious, right? Two of them are in contact with eachother (Beary509 + Blu Rose). Those two have made PMs which coincidentally explain a lot of the Mafia's moves that were done on Night One. The problem is that, these exchanges ONLY happened through PMs and no one else knew about it. So, if it somehow got back to the Mafia it's because one of them is Mafia and told their team. Otherwise, this whole situation is a huge coincidence.

We have Prin, who has been interested in targeting Blu Rose since Day One and immediately fell for my trap on Blu Rose (assuming he is not Mafia himself). She did have suspicions on him. But, as Blu Rose pointed out:



This feels like someone trying to play as Town, playing as Mafia. It's like you're trying to put checkmarks on your checklist of general Mafia behaviour and saying "this is what Mafia does .. this is not what I am doing .. so I am not Mafia". Not to mention the poor word choice of "probably lynching Town".

This was who KarlaKGB highlighted as being potential Mafia players to help get Dolby out:



I think if Beary509 + Prin were Mafia he wouldn't suggest for them to be candidates for inspection & Vigilante hits. If we use reverse Psychology, this could be one of the few first steps he would take in sacrificing a weaker Mafia player (knowing that a Mafia player from his team did in fact vote towards the end) to gain trust from Town.

What I'm saying is, these 3 names need to be looked into as soon as possible.

You know, I haven't had any contact about Mafia with beary. I do believe beary is mafia, but I haven't been Pming her about mafia. Notice I said believe. She could be town, she could be mafia, I don't know. I believe she is mafia though. Along with Blu Rose. If they were in a PM circle, they must have known each other's roles, eh? I'm not trying to pose as mafia playing for town. I am townie. Nothing else to it. I'm just showing how contradictory my behavior is compared to mafia. I'm not trying to basically do the opposite, I'm just doing what I think is right.

 

[Ashtot]

If He's mafia, I will throw my computer out the window. I'm very sure that neither of us is mafia. The REAL mafia are getting what they want, a nice distraction to keep them out if the spotlight.



Wow, great observation! What can you tell us that will help us, now?



I can confirm that Blu Rose has PMed me multiple times, along with 3 other people.
I am not going to list those people, as they may be very mad. .-.


I don't think that all of your suspicions of me should be dropped. Any one of us could be mafia, other then the confirmed town sided players.

Okay so let's consider neither of you are mafia and are completely innocent. So that would mean Blu Rose has wasted tons of time trying to prove herself as town in a terribly inefficient manner because she trusts nobody?

 

[Blu Rose]

You know, I haven't had any contact about Mafia with beary. I do believe beary is mafia, but I haven't been Pming her about mafia. Notice I said believe. She could be town, she could be mafia, I don't know. I believe she is mafia though. Along with Blu Rose. If they were in a PM circle, they must have known each other's roles, eh? I'm not trying to pose as mafia playing for town. I am townie. Nothing else to it. I'm just showing how contradictory my behavior is compared to mafia. I'm not trying to basically do the opposite, I'm just doing what I think is right.

Yes; we think each other are Dwarves.
Also, if we were Mafia, we would have the Scum Chat to talk in.

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Okay so let's consider neither of you are mafia and are completely innocent. So that would mean Blu Rose has wasted tons of time trying to prove herself as town in a terribly efficient manner because she trusts nobody?

I somewhat trust beary and fully trust Kayla, thank you very much.

 

[iLoveYou]

Yes; we think each other are Dwarves.
Also, if we were Mafia, we would have the Scum Chat to talk in.

Which is why I believe one of you is Mafia or in contact with a red player.

Beary509 & Blu Rose:

One of you are in contact with a red player, in my opinion. Last night the Mafia made specific moves which match up with the PMs you two were exchanging. Again, I do not know how much of a coincidence all of this really is.

Advice: Immediately stop contacting each other through PM. Play with the confirmed Town players before they die tonight.

Beary509, it would be in Town's best interest to know who you are speaking with (You say there are 3 others involved). If those players are Town players then they should have nothing to worry about.

 

[Ashtot]

Yes; we think each other are Dwarves.
Also, if we were Mafia, we would have the Scum Chat to talk in.

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I somewhat trust beary and fully trust Kayla, thank you very much.

So why can't you just tell Kayla everything you know and prevent being lynched?

 

[Trent the Paladin]

This was who KarlaKGB highlighted as being potential Mafia players to help get Dolby out:



I think if Beary509 + Prin were Mafia he wouldn't suggest for them to be candidates for inspection & Vigilante hits. If we use reverse Psychology, this could be one of the few first steps he would take in sacrificing a weaker Mafia player (knowing that a Mafia player from his team did in fact vote towards the end) to gain trust from Town.

What I'm saying is, these 3 names need to be looked into as soon as possible.

While we're all still looking at this list, Karla was quick to toss Justin off his list.

 

[iLoveYou]

While we're all still looking at this list, Karla was quick to toss Justin off his list.

Exactly. That's something else I brought up right away at the beginning of Day Two:

KarlaKGB wanted us to clear the following people from his list:

Justin
Beary509

Just have to figure out whether it was done on purpose or to make them look bad.

Justin is someone I would equally consider lynching today. Justin is someone who plays Rust a lot with KarlaKGB. It's likely that they exchanged information about the Mafia game in general. If any of you spoke to Justin & provided information to him, please step up.

 

[Blu Rose]

So why can't you just tell Kayla everything you know and prevent being lynched?

I already have.
There is not much I know, considering I'm not in contact with a Detective.

The people that I have contacted this whole game are as follows:

Kayla
Trundle
You (user)
Oath
Beary

I did PM SP, but he did not respond.

 

[iLoveYou]

Blu Rose has admitted to being in contact with Oath2Order.

The people that I have contacted this whole game are as follows:

You (iLoveYou)
Trundle
You (the user)
Oath
Beary

These are those people, and SP did not respond to my list.

This was Beary509's list of people she is in contact with:

I have been in contact through PM with 4 players:

Trundle. (Protected during the night, I don't suspect him anymore. You has informed me that he is detective.)
Tom. (Unconfirmed.)
You. (The player)

Last, Blue Rose. He shared his suspicions with me, which were Prin, Jeremy, TCH, and Lunatic.
He did not explain why.