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You trust Karla for what reason? Reminds me of your great trust skills in Mafia V when you went against me and supported Minties for no good reason, who ended up being scum.
You trust Karla for what reason? Reminds me of your great trust skills in Mafia V when you went against me and supported Minties for no good reason, who ended up being scum.
As it appears I may die today, I need to leave the town with two things. First off are my suspicions and cases for each of these people, and second off is what to do after I die. In this post I will make the case(s) and then you guys can ask me questions later.
Cory
Although he's really not going to be worth lynching until I'm proven town by my lynch, it will become quite apparent after I die that there is a strong chance he is scum.
Cory was
-in the chatroom with us 50% of the time
-knew Ashtot's role
-knew my role
-begging us for roles the whole time in the chatroom, which I lied to him about to get him off our backs, and then he left afterwards
While he may appear to be helping out the town in the best way possible, it's also a good way for him to appear pro-town as a scum player. The problem with observing behavioral changes in this game with him is that he promised to be a better player. If you do take notice of his posts this game, none of them actually contribute to the town. On the positive side he did buy the watercooler
I want to wait at least like 12 more hours before I vote. Some people have time zone differences. Some of you are expecting people to be on 12 hours a day. Most people here have lives you know.
Well one of the games was mafia VI and I don't even consider it a mafia game and idk about Tom not implementing it because I did not pay much attention because I was not in that game.
Either way it goes, I believe he is worth an inspection and a watch. Note how he has said he wasn't going to spam gifs this game, but basically replaced it with one-liners.
Now for people I'm just generally suspicious of:
BellBringerGreen
While there really isn't much for him, I think we can all agree he has sat back the whole game and hasn't made many posts that weren't a repeat of what was happening. It reminds me of Hikari, to be honest, and I think he might need an inspection for just his lack of activity. I understand people have lives but you really haven't put any contribution in.
Prin
All we've seen from Prin this game is her hate towards 1-2 different players. Basically she has been playing this game to a bias of who she does and doesn't like, which is very anti-town play. I would enjoy seeing her actually contribute to discussions and make posts that aren't attacking Beary or defending her post usefulness by making posts that aren't useful.
Lithia has hardly make a post this whole game. I know it's her first time, but if we leave her, she'll just end up being a burden to the town. Worth an inspection, otherwise she'll be a constant threat in the back of minds all game. Her behavior is kinda like Fireninja1's: there isn't any. Lithia is the worst kind of scum and town player to have around.
Hopefully you guys can take these suggestions to heart. It'll be quite easy to go off of these once I'm dead and show up Mayor Tortimer, so good luck! Also, watch Karla. Always watch Karla.
If anyone has any questions about my actions this game or my cases, I'm willing to answer them.
The Cory thing, I have been suspicious of him. You guys know how he doesn't take it seriously when we call him scum? Like in Mafia VI, if I recall correctly, he was just "fine just lynch me whatever".
However, when I passed along the information that he was inspected and returned scum, he said that I could either be framed or an insane DT. The thing is, the way his wording was, it seemed very out of character for him. If you look at him this game, he seems much more reserved of a player. When prompted on what he thought of Trundle (I asked him this before Karla's post), he only said "he's acting different".
When I tried getting him to say more in IRC, his only words were "I think you're trying to get information out of me" and said no more. Now, of course I'm trying to get information out of him. But the fact that he accused me of that, and said no more, says that he knows something, and only wants to hide it.
I never knew you or Ashtot's role until you revealed it on the thread. You were the one who asked me for my role first anyway. I have stated many times that I am horrible at writing paragraphs. These are only a few posts and some are somewhat helpful. I think the only reason you are accusing me is because I am an easy target after what happened in Mafia VI. Finally, on the week days I have the same schedule and you know it by now. I get on for about 45 minutes after school and then I am away for 2 hours to go to track. The reason I left is because I had to go to track. So in conclusion, your case against me is weak and is inaccurate.
His defence so far has just been lackluster. He argues that he claims veteran in order to help town by absorbing hits, but that is exactly how not to do it. His veteran claim is also a marked change from previous games where he would just claim townie. He disregarded his own advice to be wary of those who roleclaim early. What is with all these inconsistencies in his play?
This is how I see it: Trundle is scum. He claims veteran because it gives him a couple of options. First it means that in town's eyes, Mafia are less likely to target him, so it doesn't look suspicious if he keeps staying alive night after night. He can always pretend to have taken a hit if he needs to milk his veteran claim a little. Claiming veteran straight out is also a ballsy move and he could trick some of the newer more naive players into trusting him. This facade of being the pro-town veteran just looks great from the outset. Here's a brave player putting himself in the firing line to keep his town allies safe. At the same time though, he's privately pressuring other players, asking for their role. All under the guise of being the brave veteran who's uniting town.
No. His veteran claim was not a pro-town move, and he knows better than that. When he tried to explain his motives behind it, he just continued to dig himself even deeper.
So he's the only person who knew Minties was the DT. He also knew Ashtot was the vig. He encourages Ashtot to shoot someone on that night, "in case he died".
In fact, whisperings from an anonymous source (take at face value):
I can't swear by the authenticity of that quote, I'm hoping some others can also verify the quote. So how did Trundle know Ashtot would die? Well that's a no-brainer. Anyway we have Trundle pressuring Ashtot to shoot. Ashtot shoots Minties. Trundle knew minties was DT. Did Trundle explicitly tell Ashtot to shoot minties? Well we won't know because Ashtot's conveniently dead too. It doesn't take a genius to put this together.
Awesome text wall. This is probably the best case I have seen on anything. And if Trundle knew Minties was DT, why would he want her to be shot? Answer is simple, he's mafia, and he's getting my vote.
The Cory thing, I have been suspicious of him. You guys know how he doesn't take it seriously when we call him scum? Like in Mafia VI, if I recall correctly, he was just "fine just lynch me whatever".
However, when I passed along the information that he was inspected and returned scum, he said that I could either be framed or an insane DT. The thing is, the way his wording was, it seemed very out of character for him. If you look at him this game, he seems much more reserved of a player. When prompted on what he thought of Trundle (I asked him this before Karla's post), he only said "he's acting different".
When I tried getting him to say more in IRC, his only words were "I think you're trying to get information out of me" and said no more. Now, of course I'm trying to get information out of him. But the fact that he accused me of that, and said no more, says that he knows something, and only wants to hide it.
I know your game play, you did the exact same thing to me in mafia VI and I responded in the exact same way. Also, I have stated multiple times on here and on the IRC that I am trying to improve my gameplay, one way of doing this is by creating a defense.
I know your game play, you did the exact same thing to me in mafia VI and I responded in the exact same way. Also, I have stated multiple times on here and on the IRC that I am trying to improve my gameplay, one way of doing this is by creating a defense.
Cory, why aren't you actually defending? You're pretty much writing off my post by saying "I defended myself in a previous game the same way go read that."
Cory, why aren't you actually defending? You're pretty much writing off my post by saying "I defended myself in a previous game the same way go read that."
Awesome text wall. This is probably the best case I have seen on anything. And if Trundle knew Minties was DT, why would he want her to be shot? Answer is simple, he's mafia, and he's getting my vote.
You're obviously very dim witted because I already said that I was the only person that Minties claimed to. There were no other sources that could have revealed that I knew Minties' role. Therefore, if I were mafia and trying to hide something, I wouldn't have created another piece of evidence on me.
I'm playing the exact same way I do every town game. I lie about my role and what I know to get info out of people, I make posts about my suspicions, and I contribute as much information as I can to the town without giving information to the mafia. I already have many pieces of information that I could use to help prevent my lynch, but I've withheld from sharing them because it would benefit the mafia greatly, which I obviously don't want.
Re reading ugh the past dozen pages, I've grown more and more suspicious of Trundle. He claimed veteran openly, which is pretty stupid since the point of a vet is to make mafia shoot them rather than people who will die from being shot. As well as this, two people who proclaimed to him as blue died last night, including Minties who apparently only claimed to him, and not anyone else. Either he is scum, for mafia was lucky and hit a blue because of a shot in the dark. I believe he mentioned earlier that it was Ashtot who shot Minties, but if that was the case, wouldn't that leave us missing a kill that no one has stepped up to?
(If I've missed anything that contradicts what I've said here, point it out, it wouldn't suprise me if I missed anything...)
Re reading ugh the past dozen pages, I've grown more and more suspicious of Trundle. He claimed veteran openly, which is pretty stupid since the point of a vet is to make mafia shoot them rather than people who will die from being shot. As well as this, two people who proclaimed to him as blue died last night, including Minties who apparently only claimed to him, and not anyone else. Either he is scum, for mafia was lucky and hit a blue because of a shot in the dark. I believe he mentioned earlier that it was Ashtot who shot Minties, but if that was the case, wouldn't that leave us missing a kill that no one has stepped up to?
(If I've missed anything that contradicts what I've said here, point it out, it wouldn't suprise me if I missed anything...)
The Cory thing, I have been suspicious of him. You guys know how he doesn't take it seriously when we call him scum? Like in Mafia VI, if I recall correctly, he was just "fine just lynch me whatever".
However, when I passed along the information that he was inspected and returned scum, he said that I could either be framed or an insane DT. The thing is, the way his wording was, it seemed very out of character for him. If you look at him this game, he seems much more reserved of a player. When prompted on what he thought of Trundle (I asked him this before Karla's post), he only said "he's acting different".
When I tried getting him to say more in IRC, his only words were "I think you're trying to get information out of me" and said no more. Now, of course I'm trying to get information out of him. But the fact that he accused me of that, and said no more, says that he knows something, and only wants to hide it.
How is that out of character for me? I'm pretty sure anyone would answer to that. Every game you accuse me, Dolby, and Beary as scum just because you don't like our play styles. You do it even though there in no evidence on all 3 of us. If anyone else got a pm from Oath saying that he's the DT and he returned scum please speak up, because I'm sure I'm not the only one who he has done this to.
Didn't we come to the conclusion that that was because of a third party role (SK?) though? Which would mean that either mafia didn't use all of there kills, or the third arty role didn't try for a kill?
I also wanted to mention that as I'm being currently voted for, the mafia has a perfect opportunity to just sit in the shadows and lynch a town. Once I'm dead, remember to watch for those that were voting for me, especially if they put on an act of reluctance in their post. Presume I'm town right now instead of later and once I'm lynched, you'll already have a good number of suspicions in mind, which you can share over the night with people you trust so you don't die.
If you guys don't follow my advice, the town is really not going to win.
You're right, I'm not playing my typical game. I'm far more aggressive than usual. I can see how it looks like town has the odds stacked against it, and I want us to win. Therefore, I have to change my style to adapt.
You said nothing about how the way you posting has gotten much more concise.
In addition, you responded literally the exact same way as another person I PM'd. Same wording and everything.
I don't accuse Dolby every game. That's only recently because he's become somewhat of a decent player. Beary, I have an ongoing joke with that I always call her scum. It's what I did joking around in Mafia V.
You're right, I'm not playing my typical game. I'm far more aggressive than usual. I can see how it looks like town has the odds stacked against it, and I want us to win. Therefore, I have to change my style to adapt.
You said nothing about how the way you posting has gotten much more concise.
In addition, you responded literally the exact same way as another person I PM'd. Same wording and everything.
I don't accuse Dolby every game. That's only recently because he's become somewhat of a decent player. Beary, I have an ongoing joke with that I always call her scum. It's what I did joking around in Mafia V.
