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Mafia TBT Mafia X: The Honnō-ji Incident [Game Over/Town Win]

I mean I can consider but I really don't think I'm the smartest choice t-t like let's be for real, when have I lead town to victory? Games where I contributed a lot is with the help of other players. For example, the last main mafia, the only reason I contributed as much as I did was because I was 1) blue and 2) trundle PM'd his list to me

A few times I think...especially in weaboo mafia lol. You always pull through at the end : )

About Trundle though, the last game he was all ~GopherManSupreme~, so he was sort of joking around and pretended to be uninterested because he was a blue role [which SP pointed out in scum chat if you look back].
 
A few times I think...especially in weaboo mafia lol. You always pull through at the end : )

Well according to SOMEBODY town cheated

But anyways maybe I will go out if my comfort zone and run for mayor c~:
 
Ok, I've decided to put my name forward for mayor. In MM7, I provided evidence which led to 2 dead mafia members, and I personally shot 1 other mafia member myself. That's 3 out of 4. Conversely, Trundle got himself shot by his fellow townie vigilante because he accidentally read his role PM wrong. I'll let you decide who you want running things around here!
 
Here I am!
I honestly wouldn't mind being Mayor as long as it helps town win. After all that's what a ruler is made to do; protect his people. Some of these candidates are just trying WAY too hard to get votes.
If you're not trying WAY too hard, then you don't look interested. You've seen when presidents/prime ministers are voted for. They try so hard to get the job. This is no different.
I've gotta agree with Ashtot here. You've made a lot of attempted points against people solely based on character. I really don't think you'd make a good mayor, SuperPenguin. Then there was how you went behind someones back. How can we trust you at all?
We can't trust him. He went behind someone's back. This has made oath upset, and I don't think he should be leader unless he can give us a big reason as to why he should.
Ok. So here is my attempt at a post:

Superpenguin:
He doesn't really have a chance anymore. Good try though.

Trundle:
Pros: Good player, can t[ell when people are scum or Town, etc
Cons: If he were mafia and elected as Mayor, we are basically screwed.

Cory:
Pros: Bad scum player, isn't a huge threat to mafia. Willing to do whatever Town wants.
Cons: Bad Town player, and as Trundle said, he was very excited. Last game, he was also very excited. And what role was he? He was scum.

Purpl:
Pros: Ok player, not bad but not necessarily good. Roleclaimed Townie, and is willing to do whatever town wants. Also a nice person in general.
Cons: tends to slip up, but this game will only expose info that blues tell him he can expose. Also is kind of sad bc he didn't get the frickin alignment he wanted goddangit tina

Honestly, I think everyone just needs to vote for who they feel deserves to be mayor. I don't think bandwagoning is a good idea. However. I feel as though Trundle should not be made mayor, as if he is scum, we are all dead.
You can't tell us what you're like. When people make pros and cons lists, they're never in them. It's other peoples thoughts.

I think Karen/Lauren would be good as Mayor. I don't know if Lauren wants to do it, but she seems like a good leader.

Also, notice how Sataric has posted a lot less this game? Is he mafia? We've never seen him mafia before, so we'll have to wait and see.

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#firstgoodpost
 
Here are the answers to a few questions I've been asked regarding the role of Oda Nobunaga:

  • Oda Nobunaga keeps their original role.
  • Oda Nobunaga can be of any alignment.
  • Oda Nobunaga cannot be converted by cult as long as the bodyguard is still alive.
  • Oda Nobunaga cannot be killed (by mafia or vig shots) or converted, but other actions such as an inspection or role block would still go through.
 
Wtf did I wake up to, 5 pages of **** measuring between the candidates?

I'm sad that Superpenguin is no longer running, he's the only one who made an attempt at a plan, and that makes him the towniest member for me right now.

##Vote: KarlaKGB
 
I'll place my vote in the morning. I want to hear more from Jer who jumped in as a candidate.

And Lunatic.

Who would you two consider as a day one lynch candidate, and why?

I guess this question can apply to Karla, but I feel like he's voting for himself since the other candidates aren't good in his eyes.

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Sorry that didn't sound right. Rewording last sentence.

I guess this question can apply to Karla, but I feel like he's voting for himself not because he particularly wants to be mayor, but since the other candidates don't look as town-aligned in his eyes as Superpenguin.
 
Also, notice how Sataric has posted a lot less this game? Is he mafia? We've never seen him mafia before, so we'll have to wait and see.

Just wanted to quickly address this: My tactics in the Mini-Mafia game did not work out at all and I was the very first player to die, so I have to learn from my mistakes in order to get better. I went into this game intending to play it differently than the previous rounds all along - However, yet another reason I have "posted a lot less this game" was because I was asleep, which I did write in the thread for all to see. If you are bitter about the SuperNatural Mafia game, I would encourage you to put that behind you.

Post #246 - Page 25 of this thread:
Sataric said:
Fair enough - But if he wrote those words before knowing his role, he could have written it with a town mindset regardless of what role he was given afterwards. That's all I am trying to say. In any case, I'm not against Trundle being selected. I feel that I worked with him well in the SuperNatural Mafia and that he helped lead town towards victory in that game. Now I need to get some sleep, so I'll catch up on the thread and cast my vote in the morning.

Post #584 - Page 59 of Official TBT Mafia General Thread: (Post made several days before signups..)
Sataric said:
I am also looking forward to the next round, and I hope I get a spot in it - I will play with a much more laid-back tactic next time. I need a couple of more games to truly get the hang of everything, I think!

That being said, I will wait a few more hours before I finally cast my vote on who to select as Mayor - There is still many people who has not yet had the time to say anything at all, and perhaps some of them would have valuable ideas and input. I want to give everyone a chance. Trundle does seem more town-aligned now that he has made some additional posts however, but I would like to see Lunatic make a strong case for herself to be selected. Sometimes a timid player can accomplish the most when put into a trusted position because they don't want to let anyone down!
 
Ok so I've had a good ol read, from my experience with mayor roles we have chosen some bad ones for instance Kayla and justin mafia 2, both mafia with me. I personally am not too bothered I would either go for karla or trundle. Balls to cory and purpl.

Karla is a strong player and would lead us to victory and over throw mafia.

Trundle is also a strong player and can sniff out mafia miles off.

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In reply to noodle, I thought about it and I think I could but I also am not very good with people, people tend to role claim to mayors and I can deal with it so I'll leave it to the pros.
 
Ok, I've decided to put my name forward for mayor. In MM7, I provided evidence which led to 2 dead mafia members, and I personally shot 1 other mafia member myself. That's 3 out of 4. Conversely, Trundle got himself shot by his fellow townie vigilante because he accidentally read his role PM wrong. I'll let you decide who you want running things around here!
accidentally read his role PM wrong.
accidentally
accidentally
accidentally
'nuff said.

Oh, and,
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My reads so far on the players who have posted.

Trundle
Running for Mayor. Concerned that he feels the need to state that he plans to find mafia asap, especially when he implies he only does it to clear himself. You should be aiming to find mafia asap no matter what, and you don't do it to clear yourself, you do it to so you have frames of reference to read people's filters around. The post strikes me as selfish and having the wrong idea about being Mayor, but not scummy.

Cory
****posting, nothing new.

Superpenguin
His attempt to manipulate the wotc vote has no relevance to the game and finding scum. His plan, although flawed, provided some good talking points. Town read on him for now.

MrKisstoefur
****posting. Weak "campaign". Lacking the basic understanding of how the roles work. Calls Superpenguin for making a strong push to be elected. Classic deconstructive posting. Fenced leaning towards scum. Step your game up.

Kippla
Asked a good question. I don't understand why Trundle said the question sucked.

Sataric
My first scum read. Very cautious posting that takes no stand on any of the current topics of discussion. Of all the people to push for Mayor, you choose Kisstoefur, who has posted absolutely nothing insightful? Get real.

Purplpanda
Campaigning on the base of some very flawed logic. Mayor role brings two things: protection and a platform. A weak town player who doesn't threaten scum needs and deserves neither. Later they post implying that they ARE good at finding mafia. I don't like this inconsistency so I'm fenced on purplpanda.

Karen
Fenced, leaning towards scum. Doesn't want a strong Mayor, because they could be scum. This is weak thinking, town has no place for mediocrity. Strong players = better at hiding as scum? Strong players also = better at finding scum. Shuts down all the currently discussed plan, suggests doing what Town did in Bioshock mafia. Why don't you expand on that, for those people who didn't follow the game?
When she answers my question of what the mayor role should be ("good at posting cases and contributing to the thread, a person that would be a huge loss to town if he/she got killed."), she basically describes a strong player. Now she's flipflopping between the candidates. There's no consistency whatsoever in her posts.

Andelsky
Makes a good post about not causing pointless drama, which is exactly what happened overnight. I'd like to see more posts from you. What are your thoughts on Sataric, and on my fenced/scum reads?

Kaiaa
Poor reasoning once again.
Non-town aligned strong players running for mayor means a guaranteed protection at night until bodyguard is dead which could spell disaster for everyone else. It would be stupid for bodyguard to come out and say who they are so Mayor position is something mafia/third party would be striving for.
Town's #1 method of killing scum has always been lynching. As a scum mayor, you have an even harder job of maintaining congruency between your real objective, and your fake objective, because all eyes are on you. You are just as vulnerable to being lynched. Protection against night kills is a very minor bonus if you're scum, since the biggest source of night kills ARE FROM SCUM. Fenced.


Specific reads on people aside, I'm disappointed that so many posts have been non-constructive attacks on each other's campaigns from the main campaigners and their supporters (I'm looking at Trundle, Ashtot, SP).

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Oh and to expand on my reads, Jeremy pops in with a snipe at Trundle, and Tom is just gently cruising by this game. I want more from you. What are your thoughts on Sataric and Karen? Same applies to all the other players, I want to hear your thoughts.
 
Well according to SOMEBODY town cheated

But anyways maybe I will go out if my comfort zone and run for mayor c~:

They did and you know it...
Anyways, I am withdrawing my campaign, I think voting trundle for mayor is the best thing to do for town.
 
I think Trundle should be mayor. Why? Because of this:
I PMed Trundle with a FAKE roleclaim of a blue role, and he said that he would give me advice and such, as well as speak for me in the thread. He gave me advice on how to post, etc. I think a town-aligned mayor would do this, instead of just blowing me off and saying that he didn't believe the roleclaim. Also, sorry for the fakeclaim Trundle

Trundle has shown to be a strong competent player and actually wants to be the mayor. A lukewarm mayor will not be vested in their position and will feel no need to help townies or collate evidence against Mafia. Yes, Trundle made a mistake with the pm in Mafia Bioshock but other players in the same game made mistakes too. Mistakes happen. I had already voted for Trundle but PurplPanda's post just confirmed my decision.
 
I think Trundle should be mayor. Why? Because of this:
I PMed Trundle with a FAKE roleclaim of a blue role, and he said that he would give me advice and such, as well as speak for me in the thread. He gave me advice on how to post, etc. I think a town-aligned mayor would do this, instead of just blowing me off and saying that he didn't believe the roleclaim. Also, sorry for the fakeclaim Trundle

Examine what he did from both a Town & Mafia point of view. Would he really behave so differently if he was scum? Keep in context that Trundle has a history of requesting roles from people, he has no reason to just blow anyone off.
 
The whole Trundle-worship thing from seemingly random players like Cory is bizarre. And no one has addressed my concerns about his major mess up last game. Not to mention that he has been known for lynching fellow town in the past.
 
Why the Lunatic vote, and what are your thoughts on Sataric and Karen?

Sataric only played one game (MM7 doesn't count), so that would be a bad idea. I would be fine with Karen. And I voted for Lunatic because she has been a relatively strong player and she actually uses her brain.
 
Yeah, duh. So why would we want to vote for someone who didn't even know what role he had last game?

That was a big mistake and it's not going to happen again, obviously.

Examine what he did from both a Town & Mafia point of view. Would he really behave so differently if he was scum? Keep in context that Trundle has a history of requesting roles from people, he has no reason to just blow anyone off.

Actually, I wanted to point out something that people may not have noticed. When I'm a townie, I usually sit back first day or two and not PM anyone. Day 3 is usually when I step into play (if I make it that far) to get role claims and work really hard to find the scum, and quickly. As blue roles, I often go to Tina, Superpenguin, or Tom right away to try to find someone to trust, but obviously I don't trust them unless they also have claimed a blue role. (Example; last game as doctor I went straight to Tina who claimed Jack, and I also confronted SP)

I'll place my vote in the morning. I want to hear more from Jer who jumped in as a candidate.

And Lunatic.

Who would you two consider as a day one lynch candidate, and why?

I guess this question can apply to Karla, but I feel like he's voting for himself since the other candidates aren't good in his eyes.

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Sorry that didn't sound right. Rewording last sentence.

I guess this question can apply to Karla, but I feel like he's voting for himself not because he particularly wants to be mayor, but since the other candidates don't look as town-aligned in his eyes as Superpenguin.

I've been in contact with a few people sharing basic ideas who said they already have found out one scum. I doubt they're wrong about that, so I'm going to read their case once/if I'm elected and determine whether or not that evidence is good enough for me. If that fails, I'll definitely be analyzing behavior.

If I missed any other questions/comments directed at me, feel free to bring them up again. I actually do understand how some of you might feel about me becoming mayor as a strong player now as Karla has also put himself out there which makes me nervous if he is scum. I was essentially only thinking in the perspective where I knows I'm town, and forgot not everyone knows that for sure.

*Disclaimer: I'm half-asleep writing this because I just woke up.*
 
The whole Trundle-worship thing from seemingly random players like Cory is bizarre. And no one has addressed my concerns about his major mess up last game. Not to mention that he has been known for lynching fellow town in the past.

This is exactly how I feel. I'm going to wait until I get home from school to vote, because I don't see anyone worth the Mayor role as of yet, and I want more points from the new people running.
 
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