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You said that like you assumed that it would fail?

NAY NAY NAY NAY

I’ve been on Toads ass since he first posted and told people to vote no on my team. I think he’s scum. Also, if Ness isn’t scum and Toads is, he effectively has majority support

Also Antonio waiting to vote yes until after receiving his role PM is telling

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He literally sent here a VM at 11:30 and waited an hour to vote

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Her being Bianca

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Punchy is town, that I am confident in
 
Punchy its a majority vote. so if first three votes are registered, the mission choice will either go or not..dolby, toads, and antonio voted yes so dolby and toads will go on first mission.
 
Yeah I changed my vote to no after Toads came in with that super trying to play both sides of me and Ness post
 
I’ve been on Toads ass since he first posted and told people to vote no on my team. I think he’s scum. Also, if Ness isn’t scum and Toads is, he effectively has majority support

Also Antonio waiting to vote yes until after receiving his role PM is telling

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He literally sent here a VM at 11:30 and waited an hour to vote

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Her being Bianca

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Punchy is town, that I am confident in

You're basing your entire read and scum lean on me off that FIRST POST, which I already explained my stance on it... I looked at the people aspect of you and Ness fighting moreso than the game because I saw ness was upset and wanted to help. Also if we keep second guessing and going back and forth we will fail. ALSO ALSO everyone was freaking out that I wasn't here so I just responded to what was going on AKA Dolby and Ness's fight

you then ran away with it comparing it to all my other meta, like what... who does that and in what world does Dolby do that. Something is off about you this game and I think people need to take a look at that before moving on too. I'm always kinda cocky and kind of a douche, so whats the problem there. Freaking out Dolby has some plan he needs to achieve and so we all need to be worried about that.

I already explained all of this too, but you casually just didn't respond to those points and looking the other way, which you usually do when you are scum. You are trying to keep yourself in this first mission and switch around the other person to maybe get an early point. Dolby is up to something, he isn't reading right to me, He is different from his normal thought out gameplay and i don't like it. Call me a *insert that mafia term I can't think of here* but take a more discerning eye to dolby so far and tell me that he isn't different to you all too.

Fine don't send me on the first mission, but I don't think Dolby should be in it either then.

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Highlight reel of my long post

1. Dolby took my one post that I wrote quickly and tried to vilify me for it pretty quick. Along the way he took meta from so many games, which is atypical for him. Not to mention that is just a strange tactic and seems like he is doing whatever he can to look credible.

2. I already explained my stance on my first post and trying to play both sides of his and Ness's argument, but he didn't even act like he read/heard it, which when Dolby is scum he just doesn't respond to the things he doesn't want to when it doesn't fit his plan.

Dolby for Scum

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If I go all-in with Dolby being scum... it pretty much clears Ness as town, so I would want Ness and I to be the ones on the mission
 
You're basing your entire read and scum lean on me off that FIRST POST, which I already explained my stance on it... I looked at the people aspect of you and Ness fighting moreso than the game because I saw ness was upset and wanted to help. Also if we keep second guessing and going back and forth we will fail. ALSO ALSO everyone was freaking out that I wasn't here so I just responded to what was going on AKA Dolby and Ness's fight

Your ENTIRE post is based on false pretenses. 1. That I shouldn't be trying to make reads when all that you had provided up to this point was that FIRST POST and a defense, AND that you provided a satisfactory explanation. You damn well didn't. You defended yourself but it didn't make me want to townlean you, with maybe an exception for the tone thing.

Moreover, how did your first post help in any way. You didn't tell us to back down, you didn't help us reconcile. You just stood off to the side saying "I understand both sides" without coming to a conclusion on either of us. Moreover, NOBODY was freaking out over you not being here. Me and Ness's fight was the only thing going on, and commenting on that was the right thing to do if you were town, but your comments on it in no way make me think you're town

you then ran away with it comparing it to all my other meta, like what... who does that and in what world does Dolby do that. Something is off about you this game and I think people need to take a look at that before moving on too. I'm always kinda cocky and kind of a douche, so whats the problem there. Freaking out Dolby has some plan he needs to achieve and so we all need to be worried about that.

This is actually ludicrous. When have I not used meta to make a point, even in the early game. You are literally scumreading me for providing evidence from past games.

You're literally sweeping my points under the rug. The problem is not that you're cocky or a douche. The problem is that you failed to come up with a read or a reason to side with either of us until I prodded you over it

Moreover, if I have a plan, how the **** am I furthuring it by literally stonewalling my own team because I think my mission partner is scummy. Unless my motivation is to get it past to Antonio for some reason, I don't see what any hypothetical plan for me is here

I already explained all of this too, but you casually just didn't respond to those points and looking the other way, which you usually do when you are scum. You are trying to keep yourself in this first mission and switch around the other person to maybe get an early point. Dolby is up to something, he isn't reading right to me, He is different from his normal thought out gameplay and i don't like it. Call me a *insert that mafia term I can't think of here* but take a more discerning eye to dolby so far and tell me that he isn't different to you all too.

You've explained it, but your explanation is lacking and not satisfying. I am not ignoring your defense here, I'm gonna tell you right now, it's ****. The only valuable thing that came out of it is this

if you want my opinion I actually think sending you on the first mission sounds like a bad idea. The first I read it before the argument I was like "ew that doesn't feel right." but then i went all camp mode and felt it was more necessary to help mend yours and ness's argument.

Where you are trying to redeem not making a read on me and Ness, but it was so weak that it pretty much reaveled that you had no real opinion. You then went on to 180 this

Regardless were gonna have the same situation on our hands no matter who we send this first day and I honestly really like You and I now that I think about it more in depth and with clarity of this set up lol

You go from "ew this doesn't feel right" to trying to appease me with no progression on me in between. The "ew this doesn't feel right" would actually have put me at the bottom of your reads, then had me skyrocket to the top. Moreover, if you townread me last night for my interactions with you, then scumread me for them now that Punchy's on me Nothing has changed to make you scumread me

Fine don't send me on the first mission, but I don't think Dolby should be in it either then.

Again, if I'm sabotaging sending myself to NOT send you, what is my scum motivation here. You are literally getting into a fit and scumreading me for stopping you from going on the first mission with me

Highlight reel of my long post

1. Dolby took my one post that I wrote quickly and tried to vilify me for it pretty quick. Along the way he took meta from so many games, which is atypical for him. Not to mention that is just a strange tactic and seems like he is doing whatever he can to look credible.

This is just straight up inaccurate
1. When the **** do I not use meta in my cases
2. Why am I sabotaging our nomination and passing it to Antonio to "look credible"

2. I already explained my stance on my first post and trying to play both sides of his and Ness's argument, but he didn't even act like he read/heard it, which when Dolby is scum he just doesn't respond to the things he doesn't want to when it doesn't fit his plan.

#62, read it, cause you're acting you haven't

Dolby for Scum

You have literally shifted from null-scum to strong town to strong scum on me, based on the exact same content, purely being my interactions on you. There was no new content that you pulled on, just the same pieces of evidence that you are changing you mind on you, except now you have Punchy agreeing with you, so you can safely scumread me

Toads, if you think that I'm scum, put your money where your mouth is and vote no on me and you

Punchy, I am supremely confident in you being town. I want to pass myself and Antonio, and put you on a team with Ness. I doubt he's coming back, so if it fails we know who to look at. I'd be fine with Antonio doing it as well, but he voted yes on Toads, and I think he works pretty well paired with him, so I don't want him getting the towncred

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Toads, if you're going at me for scumreading you for my interaction with you, give me one post, besides your last one, which I could have called on to read you. There are literally none

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Bianca, I think this is a nay anyway because Ness would have been a hard no to me being on the first mission
 
Dolby do you not think you jumped down my throat about my first post and are blowing me trying to be nice about you and Ness's argument WAY THE **** OUT OF PROPORTION?
 
Dolby do you not think you jumped down my throat about my first post and are blowing me trying to be nice about you and Ness's argument WAY THE **** OUT OF PROPORTION?

If you think that I got into an argument with Ness that probably caused him to ragequit what do you think the answers gonna be

My reads have to start from somewhere, and there’s like 15 posts from people who are not me and Ness.

Giving trying to give out as few reads as possible is a scum you tactic, for the purpose of trying to churn out scum!content, and you’ve been extremely flexible on the one read that I’ve forced out of you, changing your mind twice so far on it
 
If you think that I got into an argument with Ness that probably caused him to ragequit what do you think the answers gonna be

My reads have to start from somewhere, and there’s like 15 posts from people who are not me and Ness.

Giving trying to give out as few reads as possible is a scum you tactic, for the purpose of trying to churn out scum!content, and you’ve been extremely flexible on the one read that I’ve forced out of you, changing your mind twice so far on it

Answer my question, I didn't say anything about you and Ness's argument... I asked you if you think now retrospectively if you think you overreacted to that original post of mine.
 
Answer my question, I didn't say anything about you and Ness's argument... I asked you if you think now retrospectively if you think you overreacted to that original post of mine.
No, I think that I forced you try to appease me, and then scumread me when the opportunity presented itself. You used it as a vessel to present a formal no read on both of us. And I think my answer was clear enough

And as I said, you think I’m scum? Do you not want to send me on the first mission? Then act on it
 
Toadsworthy Post #1 said:
ok hi hello, sup! we had some family stuff today so i was gone but I'm here now....
so I guess we just need to figure out whose the bad people? resistance is town, spies are bad. I read over the whole, uh, argument too
and I understand ness's position, Dolby could be very well a spy and looking to get town cred by sending himself and clearing himself...
And I understand Dolby being a little upset that Ness framed it as the only possibility when it is just one option. I guess I'm ok with this plan, because I'm super cool and great on road trips so lets go on a mission baby. And also, shouldn't town just send the same people each mission if we clear the first one, then we at least narrow down a bad guy or we easily win

Dolby's Reaction said:
This is way WAY to concilliatory for me to think that this is town indicative. It looks way to much like you're trying to play both sides here and actually it makes me think that Ness (as well as his rage quit) may be town here. But holy **** does this ping. You are trying to sympthatize with both of us without taking a side or stating an opinion on either of us and I am NOT in any way comfortable with that

The tone here just breaks down to. It's like you are trying to be friendly and put out good vibes intentionally

Though honestly I'm also worried that I'm in attack everything that moves mode, but holy **** does this ping badly for Toads

How Dolby Just said it went down said:
No, I think that I forced you try to appease me, and then scumread me when the opportunity presented itself. You used it as a vessel to present a formal no read on both of us. And I think my answer was clear enough

You have a delusional mindset of yourself and the things that have happened in this game my friend. You wrote two long posts about me and my meta directly afterward while I was writing my response. Which to me is absolute lunacy for me posting only one post and for you to have talked as strongly as you did. A post that I clearly wrote hurriedly because everyone was freaking out that I wasn't around (a point which you conveniently keep avoiding).

I could tell you weren't ok with my more nonchalant toned first post so I pointed out how absolutely insane your response was and then proceeded to give you a more valid and concrete opinion. You by no means "goaded" me to give out information and I was not trying to appease you. I figured you were maybe jacked-up from your argument with ness so I wanted to allow some time for yo auto calm down, but clearly you want to continue being absolutely insane and thats why I'm settling on you being scum.

And for everyone else, just read Dolby's posts, compare to his typical calm and collected style and look at his intentions. I think he is scum, knows he needs to have some influence and is looking to impress the others, neutralize me and ness, so he can take control of this game. I don't like it, I especially don't like it even more after looking over it and if you are town, I don't see how you being this aggressive and throwing out accusations so wildly is actually being helpful. In fact its not being helpful at all...

I also want to point out how I tried to ultimatum and intimidate Dolby yesterday, and he is literally trying to do the exact same thing to me right now while he avoided directly answering my questions.
 
A post that I clearly wrote hurriedly because everyone was freaking out that I wasn't around (a point which you conveniently keep avoiding).

Nobody was freaking out that you weren't here. The host wanted us to prod you and that was it. Frankly I think that nobody cared. We just wished that you were here and you had no need to rush content considering that I was the only one online and we officially had more than enough time to vote on the two of us.

And I haven't been avoiding this point. Show me one post where somebody was "freaking out" that you weren't here, or pointing out or sussing your inactivity. There is none

I have not been ignoring this either. I have been pointed out consistently that nobody was freaking out that you weren't here. You could've waitted to put out a better post, but you put out god knows what which ultimately didn't end up helping town

You have a delusional mindset of yourself and the things that have happened in this game my friend. You wrote two long posts about me and my meta directly afterward while I was writing my response. Which to me is absolute lunacy for me posting only one post and for you to have talked as strongly as you did. A post that I clearly wrote hurriedly because everyone was freaking out that I wasn't around (a point which you conveniently keep avoiding).
You're basically sussing me for putting in work here. While you've been vascillating the whole game on me, and haven't paid attention to anyone else.

I could tell you weren't ok with my more nonchalant toned first post so I pointed out how absolutely insane your response was and then proceeded to give you a more valid and concrete opinion. You by no means "goaded" me to give out information and I was not trying to appease you. I figured you were maybe jacked-up from your argument with ness so I wanted to allow some time for yo auto calm down, but clearly you want to continue being absolutely insane and thats why I'm settling on you being scum.

So hold up

You put out an opinion that YOU KNEW that you didn't have faith in. But more importantly, it was in the hopes that I would have a more favorable view of you later

Nah fam

But again, tell me, and YOU have been ignoring this

If you think that I'm scum, why are you voting the two of us to go on a mission right now?

By response was not insane, you used that post as a vessel to pretend to contribute, and if I didn't say anything, you weren't going to say anything else that night, but I forced you to create an opinion on me, which you're now fully 180ing on

And for everyone else, just read Dolby's posts, compare to his typical calm and collected style and look at his intentions. I think he is scum, knows he needs to have some influence and is looking to impress the others, neutralize me and ness, so he can take control of this game. I don't like it, I especially don't like it even more after looking over it and if you are town, I don't see how you being this aggressive and throwing out accusations so wildly is actually being helpful. In fact its not being helpful at all...

If you're going to say that I'm acting not town-like, maybe go back and compare me to a couple of my game. I have not been throwing accusations out wildly. By your own admission, you put out a bad read for the sake of looking better in my eyes, that's not town behavior.

I also want to point out how I tried to ultimatum and intimidate Dolby yesterday, and he is literally trying to do the exact same thing to me right now while he avoided directly answering my questions.
Um

When the **** did you try to do that because you didn't put out an obvious ultimatum and we definetely have different definitions of intimidate

And again, you still aren't moving your vote though you think I'm scum

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A post that I clearly wrote hurriedly because everyone was freaking out that I wasn't around (a point which you conveniently keep avoiding).

Nobody was freaking out that you weren't here. The host wanted us to prod you and that was it. Frankly I think that nobody cared. We just wished that you were here and you had no need to rush content considering that I was the only one online and we officially had more than enough time to vote on the two of us.

And I haven't been avoiding this point. Show me one post where somebody was "freaking out" that you weren't here, or pointing out or sussing your inactivity. There is none

I have not been ignoring this either. I have been pointed out consistently that nobody was freaking out that you weren't here. You could've waitted to put out a better post, but you put out god knows what which ultimately didn't end up helping town

You have a delusional mindset of yourself and the things that have happened in this game my friend. You wrote two long posts about me and my meta directly afterward while I was writing my response. Which to me is absolute lunacy for me posting only one post and for you to have talked as strongly as you did. A post that I clearly wrote hurriedly because everyone was freaking out that I wasn't around (a point which you conveniently keep avoiding).
You're basically sussing me for putting in work here. While you've been vascillating the whole game on me, and haven't paid attention to anyone else.

I could tell you weren't ok with my more nonchalant toned first post so I pointed out how absolutely insane your response was and then proceeded to give you a more valid and concrete opinion. You by no means "goaded" me to give out information and I was not trying to appease you. I figured you were maybe jacked-up from your argument with ness so I wanted to allow some time for yo auto calm down, but clearly you want to continue being absolutely insane and thats why I'm settling on you being scum.

So hold up

You put out an opinion that YOU KNEW that you didn't have faith in. But more importantly, it was in the hopes that I would have a more favorable view of you later

Nah fam

But again, tell me, and YOU have been ignoring this

If you think that I'm scum, why are you voting the two of us to go on a mission right now?

By response was not insane, you used that post as a vessel to pretend to contribute, and if I didn't say anything, you weren't going to say anything else that night, but I forced you to create an opinion on me, which you're now fully 180ing on

And for everyone else, just read Dolby's posts, compare to his typical calm and collected style and look at his intentions. I think he is scum, knows he needs to have some influence and is looking to impress the others, neutralize me and ness, so he can take control of this game. I don't like it, I especially don't like it even more after looking over it and if you are town, I don't see how you being this aggressive and throwing out accusations so wildly is actually being helpful. In fact its not being helpful at all...

If you're going to say that I'm acting not town-like, maybe go back and compare me to a couple of my game. I have not been throwing accusations out wildly. By your own admission, you put out a bad read for the sake of looking better in my eyes, that's not town behavior.

I also want to point out how I tried to ultimatum and intimidate Dolby yesterday, and he is literally trying to do the exact same thing to me right now while he avoided directly answering my questions.
Um

When the **** did you try to do that because you didn't put out an obvious ultimatum and we definetely have different definitions of intimidate

And again, you still aren't moving your vote though you think I'm scum

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You're literally saying that my response is insane not because of the conclusion OR it's content, but in how much effort I put in it, or potentially from your perspective, I'm scum because it's wrong

Regardless, you still aren't changing your vote despite your scumread

Where I stand now is send Ness on the next mission, he's not here so he can't do anything. His meltdown is actually town indiciative

Punchy is definitive townlean. Toads is definitive scumlean

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Regardless were gonna have the same situation on our hands no matter who we send this first day and I honestly really like You and I now that I think about it more in depth and with clarity of this set up lol

Just saying
 
okay so Antonio gets the leadership. Antonio, please submit two names to go on the first mission.

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gah..i feel like we are in one of those Luis Bunuel dinners..
 
I see someone else viewing the thread on invisible and it’s like who else is up at two in the morning

We’re sending Ness because if he’s scum he won’t be able to do anything unless he comes back or is replaced. I guess I’m ok with sending Antonio but I would kinda prefer Punchy
 
You’re trying to scumclear Antonio?

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From your POV, if this mission fails, Antonio is scum.

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Toads what are your thoughts on me?
 
Haven't umm caught up yet (or read anything at all, been busy with college). Let me read first.

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Dolby is scum imo, didn't act like this last game.

I like to put forward punchy and toad please. (I'm still quite confused on the setup so clarification would be nice)..
 
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