Mafia TBT Newbie Mini Mafia II: On The Run (Game Over/Town Win)

i dont wanna act sus incase murray does flip scum but I dont think just because they voted for someone which the did give reasoning for is enough to LYNCH someone but if o one acts sus then we should vote but for now thats not enough
I literally have no idea what you're saying.

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Also, whether me accusing Murray is sus or not, it brought out some information that will be useful to town. If people actually actively participated than people wouldn't have to scumhunt (which is what I'm attempting to do atm). It's a little sad that people are just bandwagoning votes off the bat instead of actually trying.
 
Sorry haven't been posting because work and day one has nothing good to talk about.

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I'm just gonna have to bandwagon with whoever you guys decide to lynch because I think day one ends tomorrow and I'll be too busy with work

And I think that exchange with Murray and aerious raised suspicions. Definitely the only interesting thing so far.

I'm not sure if I'll be on tomorrow either :/ kinda sucks cause I really should vote now, but it's day 1.....and I/we don't have much to go on. Should we just lynch the most inactive (if any) user?
 
Sucks that my net is not back until Tuesday or Wednesday because my parents forgot the payment I'm using 3G so my apologies for being inactive plus school like I said I live somewhere SE Asia gmt 8+. I don't Murray is a scum anyway thumbs up for him because he made a strategy what he means was the DT can freely investigate who he or she wants so whichs means he or she can investigate Murray or someone am I only the one who thinks Moron and Aerious trying hard to make murray look like a scum if both of them are scum then they are bad at doing it. Murray's post is clean and that is his strategy.

Blue roles DO NOT roleclaim in public unless it is nessesary. Tonight the DT should check someone and doc should protect random or strong players.

I do not know who to vote so for now it is the best if we lynch an inactive.
 
I'm not trying to defend Murray or anything, but why would Mafia do something like this on Day 1?

I have to agree with this. It just seems a bit random, why would mafia intentionally draw attention to themselves this early on in the game?

And I'm sorry but I have to say that I'm feeling pretty wary of Aerious and Moron aswell right now. I'm not jumping to any conclusions, I just think it's very easy for mafia to jump on Murray as a lynch candidate because of his earlier actions, so even if he flips town, it doesn't make the people accusing him look bad.

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yea, does any one find it kinda weird that no one is voting still though? Even with extra time in the day, a lot of people seem to be holding off voting.
People are scared of voting because they think it'll make them suspicious

Just wanted to say that it's completely understandable that people are not voting just yet. I don't know about others but I like to have as much time as possible to see as many posts as time allows before I make any decisions. I don't really see any need to rush, especially day 1 where no one really has a strong lead :p Though you could argue people are just waiting for others to vote so that they can follow.

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I'd say lynching the most inactive player at the end of day 1 would be the safest option, but they're most likely going to turn out being town! However, you could say that about any direction we take because town make up the majority anyway. I might go for someone who doesn't really contribute, and wouldn't be much of an asset to town in the long run anyway. I think it's better than going for someone who may well be a potentially valuable town player.
 
i felt the same but I guess were all in the dark here
i'm going to make a list of the less actives

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, chibi.hoshi,
shinkuzame, and kammeh.

they all have 4 or less posts

if were lynching the least active I've narrowed
my list down (some of them posted recently)
 
*gnoixaim* Is looking pretty sus, as she isn't posting much. But she was inactive for most of the last newbie mafia, and was mafia, so I'm going to look very closely to see what she does next...
 
well day 1 finishes at like 7am for me so I'm sorry that I won't be able to help with the last second panic~ i wish you luck! (goodnight)
 
if were lynching the least active I've narrowed
my list down (some of them posted recently)

I haven't been posting much because the game just started and I don't know how to contribute since I have no idea who to lynch. Nobody seems that suspicous to me atm.
 
*gnoixaim* Is looking pretty sus, as she isn't posting much. But she was inactive for most of the last newbie mafia, and was mafia, so I'm going to look very closely to see what she does next...

What? I wasn't "inactive" in the last mafia game, LOL. You were more inactive than I was ;P I am trying to contribute from what information we have at the moment.

- Yes, what Murray did was suspicous.....but I highly doubt they are mafia. (I don't think their mafia buddies would let them do something this stupid, especially on Day 1) What they basically did was create conversation for Day 1.

And I do agree to what Hanzy mentioned about Aerious and Moron:
And I'm sorry but I have to say that I'm feeling pretty wary of Aerious and Moron aswell right now. I'm not jumping to any conclusions, I just think it's very easy for mafia to jump on Murray as a lynch candidate because of his earlier actions, so even if he flips town, it doesn't make the people accusing him look bad.

I think it's a little suspicious that they're pushing for Murray so hard, even though Murray explained why they randomly voted. It's an easy thing for Mafia to make a lynch case out of. (sorry, I basically repeated everything hanzy said). I'm not so sure about Moron, but Aerious seems to just talk like this in general (pushy-ishhhh, not to be mean - i'm just saying <3) - they're just like this in the other mafia game. So....I don't know if this will hurt or help us townies, we'll just have to find out. (I hope this made sense, geeshhh)

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Anyways, I'll be voting for either Chibi.Hoshi or shinkuzame for their inactivity.
 
My lack of activity is sparked due to the difficulty of narrowing down a sus. It is day one after all and we have not much to go by, so contributing anything is hard. No one had much to go off of, especially since now you are starting to just go after the inactive.
 
well then i guess for now my vote rests with chibi or moron,
the clock isn't working for me but my guess is we have less
than 5 hours left.

i checked chibi's profile i'm going to say it before anyone
catches sus i know how yall like to post screenshots of profiles

and they were active this morning but didn't post here
 
My lack of activity is sparked due to the difficulty of narrowing down a sus. It is day one after all and we have not much to go by, so contributing anything is hard. No one had much to go off of, especially since now you are starting to just go after the inactive.

I'm still on the fence about everything as well. Reading over everything twice now, I can understand Murray's actions, but there are some suspicious actions already going on. I have a pretty good idea who I'm going to vote for.
 
I'm gonna assume the first day is always a tad bit difficult, you do gotta start somewhere...in yet I feel like there should be a little more logic used. Though reading through a few times, it does make you just stall out because anything can go either way. It's difficult to pin point who might be scum because to me, at this point it just seems kinda brash to lash out at anyone in particular due to the fact that not many are really suspicious currently.
 
This is something Karla posted during the first game; "At the heart of it, Mafia is a game of lying. There is a group of people, some of them are lying and some are telling the truth. Your job is to figure out who is lying, and if you are doing the lying, to convince the rest of the group that you are telling the truth. In addition, Mafia is not for the faint-hearted or overly emotional. While not occurring every game, sometimes people can get into very heated arguments with one another. People can get very emotional playing Mafia, as it is a high-intensity endeavour. That being said, playing Mafia is an excellent way for developing thick skin, improving your patience, and making yourself a stronger person mentally.

Town

As Town, you must remember that your objective is to find and kill Mafia, not to find and worship confirmed Town players. Mafia are playing the stalling game, thus common heuristics of Mafia can be split into two broad categories:
A. Survival
Hiding/Blending in
Posting long but contentless posts
Lurking
Indecision
Not wanting to point fingers
Avoiding responsibility
Apathy about who is lynched


B. Pushing their agenda
Promoting confusion
Avoiding contributing new ideas (ie. rehashing old ideas to try and look useful)
Making a big deal about nothing
Cherrypicking town mistakes while ignoring contributions

OK, so you think you've found a Mafia member. That's great, but how do you convince the rest of Town? For all they know, you're Mafioso. Town benefits from clarity, transparency, and direction. Try to contribute to these goals in whatever way possible to helpe establish your innocence.

This is forum Mafia, so there is a permanent record of everything said. Everytime a player dies, their alignment is revealed. Go back and re-read all of their posts with this new information in mind. Who were they trying to deflect attention from? Did they bandwagon their vote?

Don?t babble, don't spam. Many players are afraid that if they are seen as being even slightly inactive, they'll be accused of being Mafia. If you speak without having a clear goal in mind, you impede the town and decrease everyone else?s productivity. This paralyses town analysis and decision-making and allows Mafia to hide in the chaos. You don?t have to be a super-active poster to prove your innocence or be useful to the town.

On voting: Don't casually throw a vote around. Just like your posting, make sure your voting is also deliberate. Your vote should convincingly express your opinion and intimidate the mafia. Votes are not be something to be ignored. If you are not using a vote to express that player X is 100% Mafia, you should be using it to draw out information. You may be surprised how well votes force people to talk. Seeing how people react to your vote also gives you an indication of what bandwagons people are willing to jump on. This game uses Plurality Lynch, in which the player with the most votes is lynched, and doesn't require an overall majority vote. Similar to what I said before, there is a record of every day's voting. When someone flips, re-read the vote list to see who voted for them. If someone flips scum, look for fellow Mafia members that may have voted elsewhere to try to save their buddy, or have jumped on the bandwagon to look innocent.

If the die were in your favour, and you rolled a blue role, the general knee-jerk reaction is that you are too important to the town to risk being lynched or shot by the Mafia. This can cause people with blue roles to lurk and exhibit posts that suggest fear. However, a good player with a blue role will appear exactly like he is a townie, though this is not easy to do. Regular townies should avoid directing blue roles, as it gives Mafia information. Remember that Mafia have access to Roleblockers who can mess with blues, and Bombers that can take out multiple blues.
This should be very obvious, but never roleclaim as a blue. It does nothing for town, and you've just stuck a very large "shoot me" sign on your back. Exceptions are Veterans - claiming you took a hit during the night is fine as Mafia usually have that information already. Claiming you shot player X as a Vigilante, when you have no more bullets left is also good, especially if you hit a red, as you're giving information that Mafia can't punish."
 
I'm still on the fence about everything as well. Reading over everything twice now, I can understand Murray's actions, but there are some suspicious actions already going on. I have a pretty good idea who I'm going to vote for.

I'm just curious, what's your reasoning to vote for Moron ?

(I feel bad voting for an inactive and if there's better reasoning to vote for others, I'll go with that.)
 
I'm still on the fence about everything as well. Reading over everything twice now, I can understand Murray's actions, but there are some suspicious actions already going on. I have a pretty good idea who I'm going to vote for.

I haven't even taken action yet, but you're voting for me. I haven't voted yet because I'm still on the fence about Murray. I'd rather keep him alive to see if the detective will figure it out, and vote inactive. This is still how I feel about it:

Murray could either be doing one of two things: is a townie that's actually being beneficial and is trying to get the game rolling by voting for Pom and later volunteering to be lynched, or he's mafia and is trying to appear as an innocent townie by playing up the whole 'lynch me for the greater cause'.

Speaking of which, I don't know why Murray didn't react to the latter accusation. It's a pretty bold one.
 
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