Mafia TBT Switch Mafia (Long Days and Nights)- ENDGAME @Page 120- Town Wins

[Biancasbotique]

why are you guys intent on killing Daniel ? lol

 

[Dolby]

gg I guess, dolby bussing dad to death tho LOL rip

That whole thing wasn't because of me, it was because he voted Unravel, whom he called "not mafia, potential SK" 5 minutes earlier, and I got the cred because I voted him before that lol, despite getting the maj of him last minute. He was complaining that they didn't understand exploratory votes, but it's like, you don't vote somebody for being potential SK in a maj voting setup just to see who follows

I'm of the opinion that if Bianca didn't have to MK Antonio D2 I could have shifted the lynch onto him. Personally, I think that despite the Dad kill, this would have been winnable even with me killing Dan last night if Antonio was still alive

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why are you guys intent on killing Daniel ? lol

He was the most widely townread N1, and killing Punchy really left me and Dad alive looking sketch because I wanted to try to deflect to Evan

Then on N2 you told me Evan couldn't protect two nights in a row so it was like "ok I don't think Dan is SK, guess I'll kill him"

Personally I didn't think that Dan would kill Dad because Dad was easy lynch fodder for the next day, which is why him flipping SK was surprising to me

 

[Damniel]

Okay so I should explain my actions/behavior:
-In every single game where I was anti-town, I always get sussed immediately (cuz I suck). So I picked the cop immunity. Didn’t realize I was so town read, woulda picked maf proof had i known
-I tried being as town looking as possible (which I guess was my undoing, but I still enjoyed fooling everyone). I didn’t care who was scum but I went for the easy lynches (Farobi/Dad/Vanessa)
-I killled Jacob just out of randomness tbh
-Bianca PMed me that I CANT win if Maf outnumber, so I killed Dad instead of Evan cuz I was sure Dad was scum. I also figured it’d make the SK look inexperienced
-I attacked Evan cuz I was hoping he’d protect someone else tbh, but I knew I was a sitting duck if I was protected last night

Anyways, GG this was a good game.

 

[Dolby]

-Bianca PMed me that I CANT win if Maf outnumber, so I killed Dad instead of Evan cuz I was sure Dad was scum. I also figured it’d make the SK look inexperienced

Ok, actually, that was the right move in that situation, I thought that we'd still have to hunt for you in a 2v1v1 or something

 

[Damniel]

Bianca can you post maf chat and action list?

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Ok, actually, that was the right move in that situation, I thought that we'd still have to hunt for you in a 2v1v1 or something

I did too but I guess not

 

[Dolby]

Personally Dan, I think you did everything right except for not picking night immunity. In a setup like this, one really has to reason to pick cop immunity because maf had such an advantage at the start

I think the Dad kill was actually the right thing for you to do given that bit of info about the maf win con that we didn't have

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I was deadset on Dan being town because I didn't see him killing Dad lol. Plan was actually for SK to attack Evan then just work with the faulty PoE because I had Dan pegged as PR from D1 and thought I was killing the cop

 

[Biancasbotique]

Action List:

Night Zero:

Daniel chose Cop/Vig Immunity.
Daniel killed Jacob.
Farobi investigated Punchy. Punchy Returned Town

Night One:

Daniel Killed Dad
Mafia sent a Kill on Damniel
Damniel was protected by Evan
Farobi didn't send an investigation.

Mafia turned off cop and doctor, SK reversed doctor, and left the switch off for cop

Night Three:

Damniel sent a kill on Evan
Evan Protected Himself.
Mafia Killed Damniel
Heyden investigated Toads. Toads returned Town.

Scum and Obs Chat in the Original night results post

 

[Jacob]

-I killled Jacob just out of randomness tbh

love to hear it

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Wait woah dad and dolby on mafia together

 

[Dolby]

Actually Dan, I'm guessing that you flipped both switches every night. I will say that that wasn't really optimal, because in most setups it's the larger hostile factions that direct things, so it should be assumed that mafia are flipping the switches. Flipping either all or none is the right decision, but yeah

 

[Damniel]

I was more scared of the vig tbh, but in hindsight the maf immunity would’ve been better. But oh well at least we had a shift end

I didn’t expect this game to end so early so I’ll be working on my game tomorrow

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Actually Dan, I'm guessing that you flipped both switches every night. I will say that that wasn't really optimal, because in most setups it's the larger hostile factions that direct things, so it should be assumed that mafia are flipping the switches. Flipping either all or none is the right decision, but yeah

I only flipped the doc switch N1 since I figured I would be attacked and protected. I didn’t touch anything else after that

 

[Dolby]

I was more scared of the vig tbh, but in hindsight the maf immunity would’ve been better. But oh well at least we had a shift end

I didn’t expect this game to end so early so I’ll be working on my game tomorrow

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I only flipped the doc switch N1 since I figured I would be attacked and protected. I didn’t touch anything else after that

Ah ok, good play

But wait

We flipped cop switch N0

How'd Farobi/Heyden get inspection results

 

[Biancasbotique]

It worked for Daniel in reversing switch for the doctor, doctor was able to protect Daniel lol

 

[Damniel]

Ah ok, good play

But wait

We flipped cop switch N0

How'd Farobi/Heyden get inspection results

Oh I guess I did flip it, I don’t remember and didn’t really understand the switch mechanics N0

 

[amazonevan19]

holy **** dad AND dolby were on the same team?! I got 2/3 of the mafia team right?

DAMN son I played way better than I thought.

GG everyone, fun game, real credit goes to Toads and Dan for helping run this thing.

 

[Damniel]

Bianca I don’t see the scum chat anywhere?

 

[amazonevan19]

lol Dan was vig, he did a damn good job appearing to be town leader

 

[Biancasbotique]

sorry its at the endgame..i posted it

 

[Damniel]

Tbh I expected people to catch on to the fact that I was bloodthirsty for a lynch and was willing to jump on any wagon

 

[amazonevan19]

Good thing I protected myself, if I died then Dolby might've tried to win it out on his own. I suppose pure margins led him to surrender?

 

[Dolby]

Setup rating: surprisingly balanced tbh (def scumsided though, but probably 60/40). Really the only thing that makes this balanced is SK having and incentive to kill maf

How this was hosted, issues

1. There was a lot of stuff that should have been public info. Mafia, town, and SK win conditions should have been explititly stated (personally, I think mafia winning if they outnumber all other factions WAS a good decision, because it ends a 100% win quicker, but that stuff needed to be stated). Particularly, the SK immunity should have been made public, or just not existed honestly. That, while giving town a needed buff (I don't really think that was on your mind though Bianca), DEFINETELY made things harder for SK if it were to be kept in place. In addition, that allowed exploitable information that could have allowed a townie to legally clear themselves, if Antonio hadn't just quoted his PM
2. Establishment of majority: This actually really irks me. Majority lynch should be 50%+, not 50%. Also, instant maj should've been stated directly somewhere, but tbh I think it was implied so no biggie on that
3. N0 kills: The game should've started with a D1, no N0. If you want a N0, there really should ONLY be a cop inspect as an action. It's not fair to the players who sign up and die, and was actually pretty unfair to town in this game, which already faced an uphill battle
4. Switches: Eh, I think that they're very scumsided, but clearly they worked out for town this game lol