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@Dad, I thought you wanted to see those quotes. You were just curious. My point with those quotes was to prove that the answer to that question was neutral, no matter what alignment I was.
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I'm explaining myself to prove a point, that punchy behavior is suspicious.
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It wasn't a problem at first, but I can see it. Let me make a case against it. hold up...
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By case, I mean provide quotes and stuff to prove why I think punchy is scum. I think I meant reads.
I'm personally going to ignore it until Antonio flips, to check interactions with a certain person
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@Dad iirc they both barely talked about antonio at all and seemed to be avoiding the topic. Vanessa calling Antonio's RQ's NAI is personally a red flag. Vanessa's tone has been VERY much off this game
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also I would vote for Antonio now
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if not for scumminess, we should lynch antonio for information. anyone who spotted the possible slip would agree.
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Dad what's your overall opinion on Antonio
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also dad replace dumbtell with not understanding a term for CTSTP
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in this game he's dumbtelling
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BIANCA can we please end night once all prs send in their actions
Waiting until Antonio flips is a long ways off though?
You have a point on both not really airing any thoughts on the topic which worries me that you're both town and one of those two are scum actually. I'm also surprised Dolby hasn't said much about it yet.
Why are you asking Bianca for that out of curiosity?
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My thoughts on Antonio btw is that he's been hella defensive and in comparison to you not talking about much outside of his own conflict with you. If I had to think this was town vs mafia I'd lean on you being the town but the mafia scientist in me wants to consider this as town vs town.
Okay firstly I should explain my behavior this entire game. I was really confused (and tbh still am) about this game's setup. I didn't realize we were in night, so that's they I asked about the voting thread.
I've been studying for my finals (last one's tomorrow) and have been dealing with roommate issues. I only joined cuz Bianca asked me to, so forgive me for my low commitment so far. I go back home Wednesday (In time for D1) so I'll be a lot more free.
With my excuses out of the way I'll post my thoughts now:
In general, I don't think there's too much substance so far. This is probably because of finals week and it being night, so hopefully day is better. Until now, I've really only skimmed been skimming with my phone and asking little questions/throwing one-liners to get some reactions out of people I've never played with/haven't heard much from.
I have a town lean on Unravel for their bluntness and seemingly holding nothing back. Vampnessa also seems to be town as she doesn't get defensive when pushed and asks questions instead, would like to see more agression tho
I'm a bit sus on Jacob for backing off on almost any suspicions he's voiced so far. He posts enough where its clear he's aware of the game, but isn't holding any confidence. I also am watching Dolby for his rather inactivity and lack of contribution. One could say this is because of the hydra game, but Dad is a lot more active then him so only other reasons would explain his quietness. I recall from long ago that "A Quiet Dolby is a Dangerous One ", and I look forward to seeing his future developments.
Oh and Punchy just seems to be playing foolishly but that isn't really alightment telling
I was expecting you to look back and see if Farobi was the lurking type as scum actually. I'm used to town you going to previous games to try and solve what little you have to go on in a certain game. Especially if you liked what unravel just said, the bit you bolded.
Lurking ain't something I look for on N0, and that wasn't what Unravel was actually pointing out. What she was pointing out was a perceived lack of engagement (which frankly I actually do see as somewhat sus and accurate). But that wasn't what I bolded either. What I bolded was unravel responding to a trend in thread essentially favoring policy lynching, which I liked because it was against such.
Also in regards to Damniel he was both pushing for a reaction and '****posting' and even if he said he wasn't trying to drive a lynch, you push before you shove which was my initial issue but atm I'm leaning towards it being a reaction test on somebody who actually needed it and actual info is coming from it.
Where are you getting those combos, just out of curiosity. Antonio/Vanessa and Antonio/Damniel. Especially the latter.
Also how was that Antonio dumbtell as town in Call Ships, he was town and was new so the term dumbtell isn't correctly attributed by you here. I wish it was already day because I can't tell how committed you are to this push when voting is closed. Who would you be willing to vote right now if it was Punchy?
I also am watching Dolby for his rather inactivity and lack of contribution. One could say this is because of the hydra game, but Dad is a lot more active then him so only other reasons would explain his quietness. I recall from long ago that "A Quiet Dolby is a Dangerous One ", and I look forward to seeing his future developments.
The Scum Files
My best efforts of summing up our battles and why I think punchy could be scum
Punchy is a beloved member of the community. He donates to charity, provides warm blankets for the town, and is a wise but young padawan. However, what has been stated her tonight (since it?s night 1) has got me wondering, is this punchy of a punch really who he says or is he working with the scums in our precious town. This is...the scum files.
(introduction music)
Part 1 - ?Communication?
Punchy has been throwing the role/team blame towards people throughout the game without explaining why he is doing it unless confronted. As I stated before, ?You can't make statements that make it look like you are contributing without explaining why you are making those statements in the first place?.
Here?s our first example, where he sussed me automatically based off of my reqs.
Once confronted, he explained why but that content will be in part 2. He also liked Vanessa?s post but I?m not sure how that has to do with anything. I took a picture for proof, in-case he dislikes it: https://i.imgur.com/bGJdXrq.png
I think Antonio might be trying to fakeclear himself and that might be why he dumbplayed fearkill. Also Antonio/Vanessa are highly probable, and Damniel/Antonio are pretty compatible as of this post
So, he has barely contributed anything and your ?gut? says that you find him, towny. Does anyone else find that weird? Plus, he also doesn?t explain why!
Sad to say, your gut isn?t real facts. Those are your opinions and unless you explain why you have those opinions, it seems like you are just throwing wrong blame on people in hopes other people would agree with you. Just explain yourself for now on.
Part 2 - The great Punchy x Antonio War
Ah yes, it feels like we have been out at sea for too long, fighting for our lives. This war began years and years ago, based off of some reqs I posted on some cheap forum. I made a few mistakes writing them, but I got them right. Here is what I stated (before fixing everything) along with the chain of other quotes, with captions
dumbplaying fearkill, something about "I love lying" doesn't sound like something a town Antonio would say, esentially copying my response for 6, and it seems like he threw out a random name (mine) for 7
Thanks for your concern but you clearly are mistaken young padawan. So like, I don't have a town version of me as I go into each game, acting just as clueless just like in my previous games. Now, I'll be happy to go over some of your complaints:
1) "dumb playing fear kill" - I really don't know 100% what it is. There are too much vocab words in Mafia to memorize and I already suffer from memory problems.
2) Saying "I love lying" as mafia for req - I have said that many times in multiple games with reqs where I was both Town and Mafia, so it's a neutral statement. I've said it before and I'll keep on saying it as time goes on. I'll be happy to provide quotes if you like.
3) Copying number 6 - I actually did copy your reqs and tried removing your answers so I could put my own. I was on mobile and I wasn't gonna type all those questions out. I probably had missed question 6, oops. xD
4) Threw out your name at number 7 - Well, I can read you quite easily and know a few things you do when you are Mafia and at the moment, you aren't actually mafia but it's too early in the game to truly decide. It's weird though, I can only remember those about you but with other people, I can't tell the difference as good. I suck at mafia xD
hi going through this now and skimming
@Vanessa
His RQS seemed the same to me as all his other RQS, and he has dumbtold before as town (Call The Ships To Port I think there was a giant debate on it). Then again I forgot that he's only been mafia recently so "his RQS seem like all his other RQS" could possibly mean something. Will look in to it later
I think Antonio might be trying to fakeclear himself and that might be why he dumbplayed fearkill. Also Antonio/Vanessa are highly probable, and Damniel/Antonio are pretty compatible as of this post
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Antonio lowkey just posting just to post, no content coming out of him there
Punchy, I was providing those quotes for dad because you said "I'm lying" was scummy even though these quotes prove I have said that before as Town. Plus, you barely even mention my counter argument against my claims. I want you to look over my counter arguments and explain how your sus claims towards me are still valid after my counter arguments, each one. I already posted them before btw.
I really feel like you are throwing out accusations without any logic AND explanations backing it up. Heck, you didn't even provide an explanation for susing me until Vanessa called you out and asked you why you think I'm scum (which I provided counter arguments for as stated before). Plus, you did the exact same thing with farobi. You barely read his reqs ("skimmly read") which is his only post so far but you "gut find him town" even though you never explained why.
You can't make statements that make it look like you are contributing without explaining why you are making those statements in the first place.
And that was the end of it, for now. I will like everyone's opinion on the fued since alot of people are just standing quiet while this goes on.
Part 3 - Conclusion
I?m not trying to be defensive, I?m just trying to poke holes in punchys logic and how he is trying to play the game. Also, I?m not ?dumbplaying? anything, I just don?t bother to learn the lingo and forget what this and that means. Punchy if you are Town, please explain yourself for now on.
Okay firstly I should explain my behavior this entire game. I was really confused (and tbh still am) about this game's setup. I didn't realize we were in night, so that's they I asked about the voting thread.
I've been studying for my finals (last one's tomorrow) and have been dealing with roommate issues. I only joined cuz Bianca asked me to, so forgive me for my low commitment so far. I go back home Wednesday (In time for D1) so I'll be a lot more free.
With my excuses out of the way I'll post my thoughts now:
In general, I don't think there's too much substance so far. This is probably because of finals week and it being night, so hopefully day is better. Until now, I've really only skimmed been skimming with my phone and asking little questions/throwing one-liners to get some reactions out of people I've never played with/haven't heard much from.
I have a town lean on Unravel for their bluntness and seemingly holding nothing back. Vampnessa also seems to be town as she doesn't get defensive when pushed and asks questions instead, would like to see more agression tho
I'm a bit sus on Jacob for backing off on almost any suspicions he's voiced so far. He posts enough where its clear he's aware of the game, but isn't holding any confidence. I also am watching Dolby for his rather inactivity and lack of contribution. One could say this is because of the hydra game, but Dad is a lot more active then him so only other reasons would explain his quietness. I recall from long ago that "A Quiet Dolby is a Dangerous One ", and I look forward to seeing his future developments.
Oh and Punchy just seems to be playing foolishly but that isn't really alightment telling
Not a fan of these takes tbh outside of not liking Dolby's quietness, a townie without information wouldn't townread unravel and Vanessa so easily, I consider them trickier to meta-read than others. Need to see what you're talking about with Jacob backing off.
Meta - usually refers to the typical posting style of a player. So if one says Bob is reflecting his scum meta, that means the way he’s acting or posting is similar to prior games where Bob was scum. An argument that “relies on meta” is one that relies on interpreting a player’s posts in light of their prior games.
I don't have a certain way of playing, really. I go into each game like it's my first and play in the moment. I'm quite forgetful of my previous games or don't try to immiate them.
Not a fan of these takes tbh outside of not liking Dolby's quietness, a townie without information wouldn't townread unravel and Vanessa so easily, I consider them trickier to meta-read than others. Need to see what you're talking about with Jacob backing off.
Not a fan of these takes tbh outside of not liking Dolby's quietness, a townie without information wouldn't townread unravel and Vanessa so easily, I consider them trickier to meta-read than others. Need to see what you're talking about with Jacob backing off.
From what I remember of scum Unravel (used to be Itookyourwaffles) is that she ends up falling apart sooner or later. Though I do agree with not liking the takes
I feel that Antonio's analysis is disconnected from his conclusion here. While there was some extemporaneous stuff, I felt at certain points (notably Punchy's TR of Farobi and team compatibility, as well as his stated scum slip) that I was looking at town thought process. Then the thinking kinda collapsed
In the game they haven't said much for me to analyze but I always keep in the back of my head that they're the 2 best players so the chance they're on the same team is kinda low realistically... its definitely a lot more probable they're both on town than both on mafia, but I think its most probable that one is town and one is mafia.
they're also playing a game together somewhere else and one of them mentioned that that will be affecting their activity in some phases (I think???) so I guess its possible to track if their activities line up with each other and with the other game they're playing to see if they're ignoring the thread or whatever which is a lot of work nobody is probably going to do. I also think they'll be trying to weed each other out asap if they think the other is mafia so they can focus on the game they're in together
thats literally everything I can analyze about them to this point tho I think
I also don't like the bolded when talking about Dad and Dolby since it just comes off as trying to appeal to them while also being iffy on making any stance
at the time I posted that, you punchy Dan and Temptations were the 4 most active players in the game. I just used you 4 for my "who would you shoot tonight" because there was a certain conflict going on between you 4 so killing one of you was more appropriate than killing any inactive.
Statistically, you 4 + me is 5/11 players, and half of the player list is bound to have at least 1 mafia. It was just an early observation though, there are a lot more people talking now.
From what I remember of scum Unravel (used to be Itookyourwaffles) is that she ends up falling apart sooner or later. Though I do agree with not liking the takes
****ing Brian am I right
I feel that Antonio's analysis is disconnected from his conclusion here. While there was some extemporaneous stuff, I felt at certain points (notably Punchy's TR of Farobi and team compatibility, as well as his stated scum slip) that I was looking at town thought process. Then the thinking kinda collapsed
You are absolutely right, I had a few brain farts writing this plus it's past my bedtime so I lost it around part 2. I apologies and is off to bed like a good boi. I
Okay Temptations must recent post makes little sense. How can you make this elaborately romantic post about Punchy being scum and then conclude with a Null reading? Seems like a fancily made post with little substance tbh
Okay Temptations must recent post makes little sense. How can you make this elaborately romantic post about Punchy being scum and then conclude with a Null reading? Seems like a fancily made post with little substance tbh
could be. I provided some points and I feel like it's too early to make a full on decisions as maybe he is Town and we are town just arguing while everyone watches with popcorn and 3D glasses like it's an early 2000s movie.
Anyway as what Ive recall like I said Vanessa is one tricky player to play with but you will know if shes scum when she gets "too far" in a sense that shes trying to be a good lead in the game which most of the players got blind (if anyone recalls whefe I play as 3rd pt and made the game spicy thats my source)
Let me all remind you that my previous username is ITookYourWaffles (cringy name I know)
I'm like at lost right now I want you guys to ask me questions rn and I have questiona from everyone as well
What do you guys think of Jacob as what Damniel mention stuff
How about Antonio's points on Punchy, do you guys feel like its related or lack of points then how so?
How do you guys know if farobi is scum or not? As what I recall if hes scum he usually lurk and gives some points/pin on someone why this person is sus or not
Lurking ain't something I look for on N0, and that wasn't what Unravel was actually pointing out. What she was pointing out was a perceived lack of engagement (which frankly I actually do see as somewhat sus and accurate). But that wasn't what I bolded either. What I bolded was unravel responding to a trend in thread essentially favoring policy lynching, which I liked because it was against such.
At that specific point you can't tell me he was pushing for a reaction. To what purpose would it be and what would he get from it.
I don't follow
Gonna say I dislike line 3 of this. It feels so out of touch with his aggression in 104 where you criticizes Punchy for not sourcing and explaining.
Still don't follow on why it's a slip
Gonna piggyback on this, how do you resolve a potential Antonio/Vanessa/Damniel world where Vanesssa/Damniel seems unlikely rn
I mean he basically said it was both looking for reactions and ****posting.
As for what you dislike of Antonio, why does that bolded line not line up with Antonio wanting Punchy to be less vague before that?
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I'm confounded that Antonio made a case that big. And that null is at the bottom, will read and pick that apart later tonight but null after all that pings me.
", and I look forward to seeing his future developments. 
