Mafia The Battle of the Nobles- Endgame

[Heyden]

Just saw. I doubt Damniel would pick the same mafia members like last game so anyone ones but Dolby, Dad, and Vanessa. Unless it's random. Idk. .-.

Unless he's scum with Dolby or Vanessa, there was absolutely no reason for scum Antonio to deconfirm 2 people and label them as town simply because they were scum last game. Plus his unconsciousness of the game early feels genuine to me. Antonio is town imo.

there's no reason for me to guess. It's picking names out of a hat. In fact, I will actually use random.org to make a list right now.

toadsworthy, tae, mogyay, and unravel

Every game we always have issues with one random person refusing to answer a question and it's usually not alignment indicative for some people and it ends up being a major waste of time and pursuance. However Evan, is the type of guy to conform and blend in rather with the crowd rather than stick out, since he's very lynchable (idk why honestly). Hence why I think he's town.

Q5 - Guess scumteam right now:
Of the 6-7 people who have posted I'd select Runeraider (kinda remember a lazy entrance from her back in APM when she was scum) and Toads/Ness as the people that I like the least at this point. There isn't much the I like, but a push for king to make RQS is something that I'm somewhat against. Frankly, if I got 1/3 from this, I'd be more than happy

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Brb, gonna grab dinner

Dolby said 3 scum idk if this was an honest mistake or not, but Dolby's not the type of person to dumbtell, especially having played the most games on TBT, so I don't know why he'd do so. Scum had like 8 hours to check in so I'm kinda leaning for town ignorance on Dolby. His other posts seem fine to me as well, contrary to what other people think right now.


I'm also slightly scumreading Ness/Chele bc I noticed them kinda lowkey defending each other for separate points but I have nothing to base it off really and it's just a weird hunch, so I'll come back later with more formulated reads tomorrow given there are more posts hopefully :')

 

[unravel]

As of the moment I'm catching up I just got home I had to go to my university just to file a petition form for my subjects I'm currently dead meat this semester but heyooo wassap guys this is like my second game, the first one was a disaster to the point I gave up and didn't expect how major plot twist it was I'm going to congratulate Dolby, Dad and Vanessa for a good plot twist game tbh it's hard to imagine them as scum team so on to the game topic shall we.

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Short RQS from Heyden

What is your timezone and how active will you be?
SGT | If I'm going to rate how active I am on this forum I will rate it 7.8/10

Preferred pronouns and/or nicknames?
Highness, majesty

Do you prefer being town or mafia?
I could play well as town than mafia tbh so I would go for town

Guess the scum team:
I'm way too behind the game lmfao all I could think of is Punchy or Bianca, Heyden, Tae and Jacob or Evan idk yall guys said its "guess" not who do you think is scum ?\_(ツ)_/?

Who would you fearkill N1?
Dolby and Chele

Who can best read you/who can you read the best?
Who can best read me: Toads, Heyden and Dolby I think?
Who can you read the best: I'm horrible at reading but I'm trying ;w;

Do you think it's fair to read people off their RQS answers?
50/50, looking at player's RQS would help us to check the alignments of the other players and who are corrected with. to make it a bit sense the players can ISO one of them on player's RQS scum team and whatever some RQS answers are lazy/half ass answers so ya

What are indicators of someone (any random person) being scum in your opinion?:
People who slowly gave up/hopeless or talking gibberish in thread (weak excuses)
Not my best ****post ik

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It's a good thing someone clarify with Evan's RQS I'm just decent with him and slowly trust him I personally don't think he would do something reckless with guess the scum team question but ye I personally agree with his answer tbh lmfao

Antonio is kind of uncoordinated of what he is doing I couldn't tell if it's legit or not; he's kinda suspicious in my opinion

Trundle's post is meh idk why people think his post is kinda suspicious

It's been awhile since I've played mafia, which means I am either going to do really good or really bad. I'm not one to do a traditional check in post but meta pretty much forces me to. Also woo stayed up late to post, it's lit!

Dolby didn't like you suss on Toads then few posts later you TL him can you explain why?

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Best post quality goes to

Can anyone tell me if Punchy has improved at all? The most recent post as seen a few posts above mine makes me think no, but we will see.

LMFAO IM ****ING DEAD

 

[mogyay]

1. What is your timezone and how active will you be? gmt, i'm generally not that active in games but usually because of work and i don't work as much this time of year
2. Preferred pronouns and/or nicknames? she/her/mog
3. Do you prefer being town or mafia? town, i dislike being mafia
4. Guess the scum team: trundle, punchy, ness
5. Who would you fearkill N1? idk, probably dolby
6. Who can best read you/who can you read the best? man it's been so long, generally dolby can read me in pretty much every game i'm in iirc, toad's pretty good at reading me, possibly ness? as for who i can read, i guess toad but i feel like i've just had good luck rather than i'm just so in tune with him lol
7. Do you think it's fair to read people off their RQS answers? no, every game i've been in where we've done that we have been wrong
8. What are indicators of someone (any random person) being scum in your opinion?: lack of activity, bandwagoning, weird/random/forced reads, doesn't show up until the last moment, hesitant (lmao i'm describing some of my own traits though so take that with a grain of salt)

why is trundle randomly calling out ness? feels strange to me, did ness even comment on trundle, i'm also a little worried as so much of these accusations already are based off of meta and i remember absolutely nothing of your guys meta i'm afraid. but based on everything that has been said i'm not really a fan of what trundle has said, shows up immediately despite already saying he probably won't be around but not posting anything of actual value, just to check in and then the first thing he posts (well right after rq's sorry) was asking ness not to go for him

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idk why u'd get post quality award for essentially being a dick, he posted like a couple of things, if you didn't like it then expand on it, think you were being unnecessarily mean to him

 

[unravel]

idk why u'd get post quality award for essentially being a dick, he posted like a couple of things, if you didn't like it then expand on it, think you were being unnecessarily mean to him

 

[mogyay]

the joke is mean and not funny though?????

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sry if i'm being sensitive i guess idk, i just woke up lmao

 

[unravel]

the joke is mean and not funny though?????

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sry if i'm being sensitive i guess idk, i just woke up lmao

Don't worry it's cool but im all seriousness is punchy really improving?

 

[toadsworthy]

Don't worry it's cool but im all seriousness is punchy really improving?

Yes, he was scum like twice in a row and wasn’t caught, it was the best play we had seen from him. Sometimes his town play can be a little hard to understand, but he plays the same as mafia and town

 

[unravel]

Yes, he was scum like twice in a row and wasn’t caught, it was the best play we had seen from him. Sometimes his town play can be a little hard to understand, but he plays the same as mafia and town

And here I am
A trash in mafia game lmfao :/

 

[toadsworthy]

And here I am
A trash in mafia game lmfao :/

I mean you have.... your own style when it comes to mafia. I don’t think it’s necessarily trash, but maybe just be more town helpful rather than going for spicy memes. Dolby used this to his advantage last game which I feel like happens a lot to you. You fold a lot easier and it becomes obvious moreso when you are mafia. So you just do you and if you’re mafia then let us know who is on the team again this time

 

[EpicGamer12]

why is trundle randomly calling out ness? feels strange to me, did ness even comment on trundle, i'm also a little worried as so much of these accusations already are based off of meta and i remember absolutely nothing of your guys meta i'm afraid. but based on everything that has been said i'm not really a fan of what trundle has said, shows up immediately despite already saying he probably won't be around but not posting anything of actual value, just to check in and then the first thing he posts (well right after rq's sorry) was asking ness not to go for him

He called out my first post twice and it is quite common for him to scum read me for entire games. It isn't random, I am just responding to his comments. If I didn't respond I would have been ignoring his reads.

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Dolby said 3 scum idk if this was an honest mistake or not, but Dolby's not the type of person to dumbtell, especially having played the most games on TBT, so I don't know why he'd do so. Scum had like 8 hours to check in so I'm kinda leaning for town ignorance on Dolby. His other posts seem fine to me as well, contrary to what other people think right now.

Yeah it would be interesting to know if Dolby didn't read the main posts or if he just typo'd. I am reading town on Dolby right now, and obviously I am reading town on Heyden, pretty sure everyone else is too

 

[cornimer]

Trundle do you have explanations for those reads?

 

[Dolby]

Yeah it would be interesting to know if Dolby didn't read the main posts or if he just typo'd. I am reading town on Dolby right now, and obviously I am reading town on Heyden, pretty sure everyone else is too

Nah, I think scumreading 4 people out of 7 is even worse than scumreading 3

 

[EpicGamer12]

Trundle do you have explanations for those reads?

Not really, sorry

 

[N e s s]

@Trundle

I find it odd that you're taking my comment about you so seriously, considering that I'm only one player and I didn't even think that you were that scummy. Seems a bit odd to me that your last three posts have mentioned me in some way without providing any helpful insight, and that you're telling me in this passive-aggresive threat of "stay off me because I'm town". Obviously I'm not going to think you're 100% town, yet you're still being insecure about the way you appear in thread just based off your last few posts alone.

I'm also slightly scumreading Ness/Chele bc I noticed them kinda lowkey defending each other for separate points but I have nothing to base it off really and it's just a weird hunch, so I'll come back later with more formulated reads tomorrow given there are more posts hopefully :')

So saying that I think Chele is town means I'm defending her? Couldn't you say the same thing about Toadsworthy since he has also stated that he likes her thought process?

 

[amazonevan19]

@Dolby Ah ok, I gotcha. I read up, fair explanation

Trundle obviously views Ness as a threat, somehow, and it is weird. Asking one player in particular to not scumread you is kinda sus. Like shouldn't you just play as you normally play, try to find scums, and if people start scumreading you just defend yourself best you can? But he's trying to preempt Ness's scumread, and it begs the question why.

All in all, Trundle exudes a level of self-awareness and an air of unease, particularly about Ness, when he frankly has little reason to be at this point. Definitely a situation to keep tabs on.

I think Vanessa's post about the vote makes sense and is fair. It far from clears her but it just gives me good vibes for the time being.

mog's focus on unravel is somewhat passable, given she doesn't know how unravel's meta is to ****post to oblivion. I don't think it's particularly helpful and seems to just be mog going for a punitive "I dislike how you play" kind of thing, when unravel's joke was slightly humorous to me and I didn't view it as being mean-spirited at all

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If I had to snapvote atm it'd be for Trundle but I almost always misread him and want to give him a chance to defend himself better/generate more content. Warrantless reads are also a bad sign

 

[EpicGamer12]

@Ness

I was surprised you were taking my check in post so seriously, given you mentioned it in two separate posts. I just responded to it and then responded to mog because she thought I was attacking you. Perhaps I am coming off as insecure. I haven't played mafia in quite awhile so it wouldn't surprise me if my vast lack of experience is coming out in my posts. Either way I don't mind you sussing me, I just don't want to make a big deal for town, which is apparently what I inadvertently did by telling people not to.

@amazonevan19

I don't see Ness as a threat. I'm sure you remember old games where we would both be town, we would get in an argument, and things would get heated. I would like to avoid that if possible, since I am more aware of people's feelings than I used to be. Sorry for pulling so much meta so early, but I felt it was necessary to mention it. I am going to provide more thoughts later but for now I need to get some work done!

 

[cornimer]

Not really, sorry

Honestly this is my favourite post by Trundle and here's why. I think anyone who was scum in this situation would at least make up reasons for their sus to avoid being scumread. But Trundle flat out says he doesn't have any which is a pretty honest, blunt response. It's not what I would expect of scum trying to slip off the radar.

The rest of Trundle's posts sound to me like he's on edge so I'm more suspicious of him. But this post is keeping me from fully scumreading him if that makes sense

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@Ness

I was surprised you were taking my check in post so seriously, given you mentioned it in two separate posts. I just responded to it and then responded to mog because she thought I was attacking you. Perhaps I am coming off as insecure. I haven't played mafia in quite awhile so it wouldn't surprise me if my vast lack of experience is coming out in my posts. Either way I don't mind you sussing me, I just don't want to make a big deal for town, which is apparently what I inadvertently did by telling people not to.

@amazonevan19

I don't see Ness as a threat. I'm sure you remember old games where we would both be town, we would get in an argument, and things would get heated. I would like to avoid that if possible, since I am more aware of people's feelings than I used to be. Sorry for pulling so much meta so early, but I felt it was necessary to mention it. I am going to provide more thoughts later but for now I need to get some work done!

This post, I don't particularly don't like. I've never seen him talk quite this way. Maybe he's just changing his play style since he hasn't played mafia in awhile, but look at how he used to talk (these are from CTSTP where he was town):

Do you guys want me to bother to defend myself? I am town and these accusations just came out of left field. Ness, if you think I bussed scum JoaT in my very first post you are not thinking things through very clearly lol

Any1 else feeling at least 1 scum in Dad/Amanda

I'm just kinda bored with this game. The amount of inactives is really pissing me off

The issue is you guys are assuming all the mafia exist in the top 5-6 active players. Of course you're not going to have more than 2-3 reads. Half the scum team is inactive which is the whole point Kayla went on and on D1 about people who go under the radar. Jeez Louise.

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If people wanted to lynch me I really wouldn't mind, just throwing that out there.

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TLR - I'm torn on him as of right now, the first post I pointed out sounds towny but the rest don't sound like how I've seen him post as town, granted it could be a conscience decision to change his playstyle

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The gyroid lol I love it

 

[EpicGamer12]

It probably sounds incredibly scummy, Vanessa, but I really am trying to be less aggressive when I play mafia. I haven't gotten an infraction on the forums in a year and if I am not careful I will go back to my old ways. I don't blame any of you for thinking I am mafia, but I am not, so I am clearly not playing very well so far if I'm distracting town this much.

If you want to D1 lynch me, I don't blame you. I would do the same (since I am a firm believer in "if not now, when will we?"). Even if you decide to kill me, wait until we're out of time so that I can pump out as much information as possible between now and that time.

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Additionally;

I'm not sure if this helps, but in that game you quoted I was extremely bored and didn't even really want to play mafia. I am quite interested in Kingmaker and I want to see how this game will go. If you look back to old old games you might see a somewhat similar posting style, but honestly I'm not sure. 2015 Trundle is long gone.

 

[N e s s]

Trundle why don't you tell us some of your thoughts/reads instead of constantly defending yourself about how town you think you are.

 

[EpicGamer12]

Trundle why don't you tell us some of your thoughts/reads instead of constantly defending yourself about how town you think you are.

I would be glad to once I actually see content worth reading!

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Holy crap that sounded so passive aggressive. I am sorry guys.