Mafia The Battle of the Nobles- Endgame

[mogyay]

this makes me more comfortable vanessa is town prob bc she is calling ppl out if they don't vote, a maf king maker would probably be ok w letting a couple ppl slip under her radar and therefore not say anything

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the whole point of mafia games is to vote on ppl to lynch lol, that's how we find mafia, like y wouldn't u wanna vote, i'm sure there are times where ppl genuinely just dunno who to vote for but it's in mafia's best interest sometimes to coast or to be on the fence

 

[cornimer]

When I get to school I'm writing a post on my opinion of punchy but the summary is I'm retracting my townlean

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im just trying to remember if we always sr ppl for not voting, from my memory it was just sort of a we thing, not great but not rly ai either

Well normally people can get modkilled if they don't vote anyways

 

[unravel]

You do have interesting points right there Heyden just a question I don't remember those games is it around Feb - Sept 2018? I'm really certain it was the time I stopped playing mafia and inactive due to important stuffs in real life. I was gonna townlean on punchy tho due to Toads saying that his town and mafia are kinda the same which lead me iffy to TL him, second is him being too agro on Antonio, does he do that every game? As what I recall a year ago scum punchy usually goes agro and acts like he knows what he is doing in the game there are huge gap his scum and town play

As of now I'm kinda iffy punchy's alignment not only Heyden's post which he really does have a point right there but because of his playstyle change people say he did improve the game and actually he kind of did. As of now Heyden's post reminded me of how huge gap he plays as town and scum like what I said above.

Would Punchy/Jacob or Ness/Punchy possible team for you guys? As I recall its kinda awkward cuz if I recall correctly one of them against punchy.

 

[mogyay]

ok i went back and reread we have antonio basically say like 'punchy's play has gone downhill' blah blah, i agree it wasn't that nicely worded but nicer than what trundle said imo. then we have punchy post 4 minutes later not even acknowledging his post and saying something else, he must have surely seen what antonio said but only decides to have a random outburst an hour later??

idk seems convenient esp since me and tae were defending him earlier, looks like he wanted to capitalize on that

 

[cornimer]

Where's Dolby?

 

[unravel]

Ahhh which reminds me would it be possible he asked reads from us all because he really got affected to Trundle's post? Like he got offended then he thinks he is not good enough so he decided to ask one of us to read him, what we think of him.

I'm at bathroom taking a **** its just one of those bathroom thoughts right there

 

[illunie]

Where's Dolby?

he was lurking before, y?

 

[cornimer]

I know he has school but I can't remember anything he's said other than going after mog and Bianca a bit

 

[unravel]

Got affected, low confidence and lost the ability to state his thoughts*

 

[mogyay]

to be fair he said he's at college and taking a lot of credits, this is probably when he'd be waking up to go

 

[illunie]

I'm at bathroom taking a **** its just one of those bathroom thoughts right there

thank u unravel very cool

seriously tho he already gave his explanation for y he was asking for reads on him, lemme find it one sec

 

[mogyay]

he was commeting on that whole ness/trundle crap, think he said he might say something later about it, he also said he'd say something about something i said so i assume he's gonna come up and say more after his classes

 

[illunie]

I played a 40 player game where I was basically ignored and not put into any reads lists so I had asked people to read me multiple times.

here

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mog stop interrupting my posts wmh

 

[mogyay]

no wonder he was ignored it's 40 players, why bother saying it in a 14 player game, ofc he's not gonna get ignored lol

 

[cornimer]

He said he was asking for reads because he was in a 40 player game where he was ignored

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Wmh I'm slow

 

[illunie]

He said he was asking for reads because he was in a 40 player game where he was ignored

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Wmh I'm slow

xd

 

[unravel]

thank u unravel very cool

seriously tho he already gave his explanation for y he was asking for reads on him, lemme find it one sec

OH YEAH I REMEMBER HE DID HE MENTION SOMETHING ABOUT IT

Remember few post after the mod post day one description, Trundle mentions if punchy's playstyle improving thats the time he saw it and felt offended thats the time he lost his confidence Im really sure of this

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Just a random theory on this about ignoring he thinks that his post are useless thats why he thinks we ignore his post to be honest no ones ignoring what you're saying if they find something interesting then they would either agree or call you out. You aren't useless Punchy I know you wanted to prove you are but dont push yourself but this doesnt mean I automatically TL or SL you. There are always room for an improvement

 

[cornimer]

Vanessa, I’d like to hear more about your thoughts on Punchy. I don’t know if it’s me who hasn’t played with him in ages and is unfamiliar with his playstyle or something else, because I feel that Punchy is contributing by just going by basic townlocks by meta. An example is what he did on Mog, I don’t find that very helpful at all. His use of meta and no other forms of evidence makes me think that he’s lazy, but that could just be typical Punchy. I’m not scumreading him though, because I’m unsure if he does this every game.

Ok, the reason I WAS townleaning Punchy was because:

1. I agreed with his townread on Mog (I wouldn't necessarily townlock her, and I know you're against heavy meta usage but the last time Mog was scum she was so different, she was hesitant to voice her opinions and barely posted) and I didn't see what reason Punchy (as Scumchy) would have to hard townlock someone so early in the game. Now I realized it could be pocketing, also a townlock

2. I also agreed with the points he brought up against Bianca and didn't find him to be bandwagoning as he posted a couple minutes after I did and brought up different points than I had

So basically I townread him because I agreed with him. I ignored his aggression (particularily against Antonio) because I think he sometimes does it as either alignment, and him and Antonio were tearing into each other all of last game and they were both town

THEN I read Heyden's post and it kind of changed my view. You all know how much I love meta and he found some pretty good meta. Punchy's play from game to game kind of blurs for me so I've never really been able to see differences between his town and scum play but now that Heyden has outlined them, I can see them. And this definitely looks more like his scum play.

Chele brought up some good points about AtE also, although I can't say anything about her accusations of him using meta because...I'm using the same meta...hehe

 

[EpicGamer12]

I can't sleep again so here's one more thought I had about trundle.
It's interesting he is insistent on townreading Bianca. Considering they are my only two susses at the moment and I'm in charge I could technically execute either one. So wouldn't it be smart for him to make her look more sus than him? But instead he explained to me why he townleaned her based off of my own evidence for scumreading her. He doesn't seem interested in just saving his own butt is what I'm saying, which is a town point from me.

You've mentioned three times things that are "town points" for me but you're still scum leaning me? You're sounded pretty inconsistent to me honestly.

 

[cornimer]

whoops I didn't finish one sentence

I was going to say, " Now I realized it could be pocketing, also a townlock is pretty extreme"

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You've mentioned three times things that are "town points" for me but you're still scum leaning me? You're sounded pretty inconsistent to me honestly.

No I'm not really scumleaning you anymore

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I'd say you've even-ed yourself out to a nice confusing null