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Mafia The Battle of the Nobles- Endgame

i dont think you get it but ok

Explain it to me then but better. I pointed out that to Vanessa that if she didn't go with the majority, it would be suspicious. There are other methods to making a point then wasting a vote on her.
 
As much as I griped that I didn't agree with the maj vote I was never actually thinking of not going with maj lol, you guys didn't have to "pressure" me to go with maj
 
1. Vig shoots Punchy
2. Punchy flips maf
3. ????
4. Profit

Yeah, that's it

Punchy those aren't reads

They're statements

you're going after me and Ness because we went after you and no other reason

You're locking in the team, and that's extremely uncharacteristic, failing to keep an open mind
 
it was trundle making a statement that he didn't like vanessa

That still doesn't make sense unless you are referring to my reads on him.

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Punchy those aren't reads

He did the exact same thing last game, where he would make statements without explaining why or what.
 
That still doesn't make sense unless you are referring to my reads on him.

Dude Trundle voting Vanessa is non-AI because 1. you aren't going to really expect Vanessa to vote herself 2. He was going to change it anyway 3. At the end of the day it was a statement of distrust in Vanessa and not actually advocating a lynch on her
 
Dude Trundle voting Vanessa is non-AI because 1. you aren't going to really expect Vanessa to vote herself 2. He was going to change it anyway 3. At the end of the day it was a statement of distrust in Vanessa and not actually advocating a lynch on her

1. I mentioned that already
2. Did he say that before he made that vote?
3. There are other ways of making a statement, why a vote out of all things? I used other ways to make a statement.
 
1. I mentioned that already
2. Did he say that before he made that vote?
3. There are other ways of making a statement, why a vote out of all things? I used other ways to make a statement.

2. I think it was pretty clear. I mean, I don't see town or scum Trundle ACTUALLY staying with that vote
3. Voting def makes more of a statement and lasting impact

Besides, do you think that Jacob votes for him based off of pretty much nothing if they're teammed? After pretty much OMGUSing him
 
i'm the vig and i'm going to shoot myself

just kidding but if i was i would shoot myself so i dont have to deal with this anymore
 
2. I think it was pretty clear. I mean, I don't see town or scum Trundle ACTUALLY staying with that vote
3. Voting def makes more of a statement and lasting impact

Besides, do you think that Jacob votes for him based off of pretty much nothing if they're teammed? After pretty much OMGUSing him

2. Could you quote?
3. I think it has the same impact as just telling Vanessa straight to her face as I did.

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i'm the vig and i'm going to shoot myself

just kidding but if i was i would shoot myself so i dont have to deal with this anymore

There's a replacement, dede.
 
Antonio Trundle is the towniest one, he was the first to call out Jacob and Jacob had his vote on him
He said he was just voting me temporarily and it was just like a "haha I think you're scum" thing
 
Antonio Trundle is the towniest one, he was the first to call out Jacob and Jacob had his vote on him
He said he was just voting me temporarily and it was just like a "haha I think you're scum" thing

Couldn't mafia call out mafia at the beginning of the game so there would be no connections between them? Is there a quote before he voted for you saying he would change his vote?

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Everyone is talking about Jacob reading this guy as town so he must be scum like it's the norm so who says mafia won't try to do something different, against the norm so no one would suspect it.
 
Couldn't mafia call out mafia at the beginning of the game so there would be no connections between them? Is there a quote before he voted for you saying he would change his vote?

He stayed on the vote consistantly and was driving the vote through

So was Jacob on him
 
Didn't you drive the vote on dad last game?

The difference is between that one and this one is that I didn't actually intend for the Dad wagon to build steam, and scum this game don't have an SK to worry about. Trundle actually had reason enough and opportuntiy to switch to Punchy or Bianca if he wanted, I didn't, and I tried to manufacture one the whole time. Trundle had time enough and reason enough to switch to Punchy (I also don't think Trundle/Punchy is a thing ftr), he choose not to. Jacob also decided to vote Trundle from the outset and purely because Trundle was on him, abandoning his push on Unravel/Mog, that in particular isn't scum/scum behavior
 
Only after dad slipped up at EoD
Actually, both my votes on him that game occured before the slip up, it took me completely off guard because I thought that there was no possibility of Dad being lynched then, compared to this game when Jacob and Trundle voted each other and with the vote so split, pretty much anyone could've died
 
Actually, both my votes on him that game occured before the slip up, it took me completely off guard because I thought that there was no possibility of Dad being lynched then, compared to this game when Jacob and Trundle voted each other and with the vote so split, pretty much anyone could've died

Oh rip I forgot, that EoD was a mess lmao
 
Hello world, just wanted to share my thoughts before the night ends. I haven't been very proactive this game with my thoughts so here is some things I've been thinking about.

OKAY so after reading everything up to the results post I've concluded the following information:

Jacob directly spoke/interacted with the following players: Trundle, mogyay, unravel, Toadsworthy, Dolby, Temptations, Punchy (forced),
Jacob mentioned the following players: biancasbotique, Vampnessa, Chele
Players that mention Jacob: Heyden, tae, Amazonevan19, Rune (???)

I might have missed some things but I'm pretty sure the above information is accurate. Trundle, mog, unravel, Dolby, and Temptation's direct interactions with Jacob all feel genuine and I don't sense that there were any scumVscum shenanigans in those posts. I mention why I think that Punchy is the most forced of these later in this post. Toads is kind of in a grey area out of these guys.

The players that Jacob mentioned don't really give very much information, but then again, I haven't read too much into other player's posts on Jacob other than the storm of Dolby's read on him earlier. I would say that Chele would be the most interesting of the three there to look into granted I think that Bianca and Vampnessa are kinda townish right now.

I think that there is a very real possibility that someone on the 3.5 players that Jacob didn't interact with are scum, particularly within tae/evan/rune. I say .5 because I have high doubts that heyden is scum. Granted that tae is one of the least active players atm and evan does have a few redeemable qualities, I would say that I find these players suspicious. Rune is kinda in a grey area.

General thoughts:

Guess the scum team: mog definitely idk who else tho
Who would you fearkill N1?Dolby
Who can best read you/who can you read the best? probs dolby. I can't read anyone

In Jacob's RQS he guessed Mogyay as scum and that he would kill Dolby. Not super alignment indicative but I think that it counts as some bit of townie points.

I noticed that Jacob didn’t give a read on me and asked if he forgot me

Also I just played a 40 player game on mafia universe where people basically ignored my existence

Just noting that Jacob was a random pick for Punchy to want out of anyone to read him. Red flag.

No one has any idea how scum Punchy reacts during EoD so this is probably a shot in the dark, as most D1's are so I'm probably not gonna move my vote. I will admit his ATE is kinda throwing me off bc it's exactly like his town behaviour, and I'm not really sure what to make of his opportunism to jump on the Jacob wagon when he realised there was a chance. So ye if I'm gonna be honest I'm a bit unsure but there's nothing else to hop on. I don't think I want to vote Jacob, but tbh maybe if the vig shoots him tonight that'll be good or whatever since he's obviously going to be the one of the main focuses of D2.

tbh sometimes a player being uncertain about a scum lynch at the last second can look semi-scummy but I think I really like Heyden being unsure about the Jacob lynch at the last second, implies a lot more town than scum to me imo since scum heyden probably would have just bussed Jacob (this is going under the assumption that Punchy is a scum PR, as the goon is obviously more favorable to lose in this scenario)

Because I won't??

This post was in reply to Temptations accusing Jacob of flipping scum. Small detail but I think it's interesting.

vig don't shoot me. you are being influenced by mafia

This really just seals the deal of any thoughts that made me think Punchy was town, this is scummier than my middle school locker room. Instead of defending himself reasonably he makes this monument of scumminess. Honestly if Punchy isn't shot by a vigilante tonight I might shed a tear or two.

tldr: Trundle, Mogyay, unravel, Dolby
Biancasbotique, Vampnessa, Temptations
Runeraider, Toadsworthy, tae, Chele (barely, I need to look into her and this might change)
Amazonevan19
PunchyDaHufflepuff
 
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