Mafia The Murder of Woodpines Oregon - Game Thread - Endgame

[amazonevan19]

I leave for dinner and this happens. Gdi, I knew waffles was town. Ugh

Well at least we know glow is TP now, and that there's probably three mafs. Catching up on what I've missed, but geez louise guys...

 

[N e s s]

And I swear to god if anyone placeholder votes or votes themselves I'll mod kill myself

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[Seroja]

inactive/quiet to me seems like same thing. And again, I feel like you would know glow is a good player and we shouldn't lynch her day 1. Her posts were similar to what she does every game.

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If you are town, be helpful to town... this is dumb-****, you want to say that you have improved and stuff, but this doesn't show it

analyze end of day stuff, make contributions, and don't post this dumb stuff

No it wasn't. I was in a scum team with her and it reminded me of that time. The way she casually suggested the lynch be moved to locket and waffles without giving us any sensible reason reeked of her having an agenda. The fact that she is a good player is exactly the reason why I should vote her if I read her as scum. I wasn't about to just vote any other player who *could* be scum when I have a strong scum read on her just for the sake of bandwagoning. I'm sorry if I don't sheep like you expected me to.

 

[amanda1983]

no I was half and half. But I was more certain glow was scum based on her play. I came back when it was pass EOD and read up on the last minute bandwagon, saw how hard glow and amanda tried to push the lynch off punchy and came to the conclusion that they could be a team.

I agree the timing looked suspect and can see your perspective. I would like to point out though that my push on Waffles grew directly out of her reads and subsequent choice not to address it. She was also active and posting in the thread at the time I was posting before EoD and had more than sufficient time to claim - particularly if they were blue, a point Toads has raised as suspicious that Waffles wasn't given time to do. I would have changed my vote if I saw any reason to from Waffles. There was none.

Lmao gg bless u guys for the blitz

**** you sweetie. Seriously, GG. But **** you, too.

Pocketing.

Okay so I'm still thinking you're Town. But there is NO WAY that a Waffles lynch would mean you're not a major candidate for the next lynch - along with anyone who was vocal about "saving" you. Especially if they had also happened to be calling for the lynch to move from you to Waffles. Which I did. Because I read you as genuine Town, and there were no answers or even a claim from Waffles.

So now I'm suspicious. Duh. But trying to pocket you? In the nicest possible way, what value to a Mafia!Amanda (or anyone else at this point) would pocketing you have? That's a sincere question, I'm not being snarky or anything. I just don't see the logic of why I might have been trying to pocket you at that point, given I would have had to know where we'd end up (as I'd be Mafia!Amanda in that scenario)?

 

[amazonevan19]

ok yeah, after a quick read I am helllllla suspicious of the people who flipped to waffles, and pretty sure they blitzed to save punchy last minute.

 

[amanda1983]

*so now I'm suspicious = as in, people are actively suspicious about me as a result of those events. I didn't mean I'm suspicious of you lol.

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Amanda, if you were vig, would your shoot me?

Right now? No. Why would I shoot somene I read as Town. I read you as Town so much I actively tried to get votes to go on Waffles instead, some I did read as Mafia.

Why do you ask?

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EBWOP : Why would I shoot someone I read as Town??

 

[Seroja]

I agree the timing looked suspect and can see your perspective. I would like to point out though that my push on Waffles grew directly out of her reads and subsequent choice not to address it. She was also active and posting in the thread at the time I was posting before EoD and had more than sufficient time to claim - particularly if they were blue, a point Toads has raised as suspicious that Waffles wasn't given time to do. I would have changed my vote if I saw any reason to from Waffles. There was none.



**** you sweetie. Seriously, GG. But **** you, too.



Okay so I'm still thinking you're Town. But there is NO WAY that a Waffles lynch would mean you're not a major candidate for the next lynch - along with anyone who was vocal about "saving" you. Especially if they had also happened to be calling for the lynch to move from you to Waffles. Which I did. Because I read you as genuine Town, and there were no answers or even a claim from Waffles.

In light of the EoD result that theory doesn't hold water anymore. It's pretty brave for a mafia to push a lynch off a partner so strongly like that to a townie. Idk it's not likely.

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I mean that if you're working alone, cos glow isnt your teammate. I thought you were following leader glow's lead.

 

[amazonevan19]

instalynch punchy or amanda next day. Amanda has skyrocketed in my sus list, maybe even my top scumread after that.

 

[toadsworthy]

No it wasn't. I was in a scum team with her and it reminded me of that time. The way she casually suggested the lynch be moved to locket and waffles without giving us any sensible reason reeked of her having an agenda. The fact that she is a good player is exactly the reason why I should vote her if I read her as scum. I wasn't about to just vote any other player who *could* be scum when I have a strong scum read on her just for the sake of bandwagoning. I'm sorry if I don't sheep like you expected me to.

read any recent game and she either suggests switches like that, or rides on one person the whole time. How can you have such a strong scum read on her when a quarter of her posts came from after you were gone from the thread

 

[amazonevan19]

Punchy/Seroja/Amanda/Farobi

3/4 scum in this list

Guaranteed

kill them ALL. No mercy.

 

[Seroja]

read any recent game and she either suggests switches like that, or rides on one person the whole time. How can you have such a strong scum read on her when a quarter of her posts came from after you were gone from the thread

well I haven't read any games since like end of last year so my decision was made based on what I know and what I feel. I have had a sus on her that I just didn't write about cos it was more gut feeling and that one post (of her coming into the thread just to suggest a blitz lynch on waffles/locket) even tho seems so miniscule to you meant a lot to me as someone who had witnessed what she did to save a scum partner or to divert a lynch.

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Punchy/Seroja/Amanda/Farobi

3/4 scum in this list

Guaranteed

kill them ALL. No mercy.

I'm of mind that all 4 are town and you are scum.

 

[PunchyTheCat]

Punchy/Seroja/Amanda/Farobi

3/4 scum in this list

Guaranteed

kill them ALL. No mercy.

Ok, leave me last. Don't waste a lynch. Ugh I need to sleep @Amanda, will answer questions tomorrow bc I'll say something stupid bc I'm tired af

 

[amanda1983]

read any recent game and she either suggests switches like that, or rides on one person the whole time. How can you have such a strong scum read on her when a quarter of her posts came from after you were gone from the thread

That's how she played in games I played in last, year, too. She seemed to be playing how Town!glow plays, though of course the fact she was saying something I was completely onboard with (Punchy = Town ; Waffles = scum). I don't know how much of that from her was purely strategic versus an alignment of genuine and strategic (Punchy = she read as Town, regardless of Waffles' alignment). But regardless of her motivations, I would still have been reading both Punchy and Waffles the same way as glow's posts didn't influence my views on those players.

 

[amazonevan19]

I'm of mind that all 4 are town and you are scum.

Gee, how convenient. You scumread me NOW only AFTER I put YOU as guaranteed scum. OMGUS much?

Hope you aren't afraid of heights, cuz if us townfolk have good heads on our shoulders, we're stringing you up asafp.

 

[toadsworthy]

Seroja literally what you said makes no sense

You said you voted for glow because she was quiet the whole day except for the last five pages of day 1. but you also say that you were gone at the end, so you couldn't change your vote when **** was switching. You say you had a strong scum read of glow, but she literally had like 5 posts before you voted and before the main reason you are saying you scum read her so strongly.

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Add onto it you were kind of rubbing your read in my face a little bit when you were saying how right you were about her not being town

 

[Seroja]

Gee, how convenient. You scumread me NOW only AFTER I put YOU as guaranteed scum. OMGUS much?

Hope you aren't afraid of heights, cuz if us townfolk have good heads on our shoulders, we're stringing you up asafp.

well if you're town and you're happy to string me, town's lost is on you.

 

[amazonevan19]

no reasoning, no rationale, no support. Just defending ALL of your teammates and labelling me scum

quit making our job so easy and making it so obvious

 

[Seroja]

Seroja literally what you said makes no sense

You said you voted for glow because she was quiet the whole day except for the last five pages of day 1. but you also say that you were gone at the end, so you couldn't change your vote when **** was switching. You say you had a strong scum read of glow, but she literally had like 5 posts before you voted and before the main reason you are saying you scum read her so strongly.

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Add onto it you were kind of rubbing your read in my face a little bit when you were saying how right you were about her not being town

you misunderstood my post though? I said the fact that she ONLY read the 5 last pages after coming back from missing the last 24 hours and then suggested a blitz lynch on two other ppl WITHOUT giving evidence is suspect. If you can't see how suspicious that is then let me spell it out for you.

It means she DIDNT CARE ENOUGH to read through what she missed which she would do as town so that she can make a more informed decision on who to vote. and then not even bothering to tell us WHY we should vote those people instead. It doesn't matter to me if you're gonna say, ohh but she's like that as town too, because it didn't feel like her town self TO ME. I strongly scumread her for that post after having a gut sus that she's not acting as town much EVEN in her earlier posts.

and the only reason I said I was right to you was because it wasn't like my read on her was wrong???? she wasn't town! which is precisely why I voted her, because I thought she wasn't acting her usual town self. so why is it such a big deal is my problem.

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no reasoning, no rationale, no support. Just defending ALL of your teammates and labelling me scum

quit making our job so easy and making it so obvious

then what evidence do you have on me?

 

[toadsworthy]

ok I looked at timing and it does line up. But still for you, someone who I think of making informed and thought out decisions herself, to vote glow based on that. Doesn't seem like you. With all the other **** going on, you chose to vote someone with 7 posts and zero other people suspecting her.

And you scum read her, you didn't think she "wasn't town" no one can dead-pan pick someone to be third party day 1, so for you to act all high and mighty like this is arrogant. Which is also not like you

 

[Seroja]

ok I looked at timing and it does line up. But still for you, someone who I think of making informed and thought out decisions herself, to vote glow based on that. Doesn't seem like you. With all the other **** going on, you chose to vote someone with 7 posts and zero other people suspecting her.

And you scum read her, you didn't think she "wasn't town" no one can dead-pan pick someone to be third party day 1, so for you to act all high and mighty like this is arrogant. Which is also not like you

I'm sorry if I sounded arrogant, I was just frustrated. I know where you're coming from, but I was just trying to explain why I made such a decision. I also thought me voting her would gain information after eod cos I assumed punchy would get lynched anyway even without my vote. what I didn't count for was that glow was actually a lyncher. I had no way of knowing that. all I know was I was confident she wasn't town, hence my vote.

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also what i meant is not town = scum. i didnt consider the that she could be tp or anything so yeah sorry for sounding arrogant