Mafia The Murder of Woodpines Oregon - Game Thread - Endgame

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Alright. Well, what's done is done now.

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How sure are we that Mafia has a RB? They have an unusual KP after all..

I think it's a staple for mafia teams to have a roleblocker and possibly a framer. The unusual KP doesn't have to necessarily affect the appearance of those roles, I would assume. But with the absence of RB'd claims i cant say for sure.
 
If scum don't kill Locket tonight and keeps her around, either you are scum or they are framing you

In that case, use your investigative role tonight, if they spare you, then tell us what u read.
 
Alright. Well, what's done is done now.

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How sure are we that Mafia has a RB? They have an unusual KP after all..

Good point.

@Locket we can discuss that without revealing our roles. What's done is done yes, but pls be mindful not to do it again unless we at least have another healer still alive. My
 
typically the JoAT will investigate night 1 to help make a decision for night 2... or heal someone if there is an obvious choice

any blue role should not claim ever... unless in rare cases, this not being one of them
especially you definitely not being a target for mafia you would've been in the clear for a while.

I highly doubt we have a watcher, doctor, Joat, AND double voter, so I would just assume the extra vote is coming from mafia. Hopefully they don't have a RBer then, but not likely.

The fact that we have a watcher in the set up is telling a lot actually. Means there is a lot of movement as far as roles go, and "investigative" roles kinda fall by the wayside meaning no godfathers or millers. It would be almost set-up damning if we had a watcher and only one role on mafia team that can be detected by them, so there is probably at least 2, plus a SK.... so if there is 3 mafia like we think, I want to say their KP is restricted to 1 and we have a SK. That is what makes most sense to me or there is only two mafia (both who have detectable roles, unless Ness used a Ninja and is just toying with us) who have 2 KP. I did the "roles determine KP" thing for BOTW because I had a smaller mafia with strong powers, so thats what my mind thinks of
 
I think it's a staple for mafia teams to have a roleblocker and possibly a framer. The unusual KP doesn't have to necessarily affect the appearance of those roles, I would assume. But with the absence of RB'd claims i cant say for sure.

Hmm. That's a good point. I think if KP was normal, I wouldn't really have considered that there might not be a Mafia RB.

Still.. we may as well proceed as though there might not be one, even if that's unlikely.

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Damn this is moving fast!

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Toads - how likely is it really that in a 15 player game we'd have 2 hostile 3rd parties? I think I've only seen 1 at a time before, though that doesn't mean it's rare for there to be 2.
 
Or if we really want to go down the mafia crackpot theory, there could be a trapper involved and would account for the variability of KP that we were warned about. A trapper can kill multiple people at night by placing a trap on one player and if that person is visited by someone else, it springs and kills both people. Could explain why Rune and Vanessa both died, Vanessa watched Rune and Rune got placed a trap.

I bring this up so that Locket is careful not to tell who she visits because it could be used very hard against her

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Or if we really want to go down the mafia crackpot theory, there could be a trapper involved and would account for the variability of KP that we were warned about. A trapper can kill multiple people at night by placing a trap on one player and if that person is visited by someone else, it springs and kills both people. Could explain why Rune and Vanessa both died, Vanessa watched Rune and Rune got placed a trap.

I bring this up so that Locket is careful not to tell who she visits because it could be used very hard against her
 
I agree that there must be a lot of "movement" on Mafia side for the Watcher role to be useful to Town.
 
A lyncher isn't a hostile third party I don't think, because it turns into a survivor as well
 
A lyncher isn't a hostile third party I don't think, because it turns into a survivor as well

Wait, it's not? I always though Survivor was Anti-Town?

What about Jester though? Coz glow got to choose between Lyncher/Survivor or else Jester.
 
only if Waffles is nightkilled. Otherwise, she will continue to pursue Waffles.

Also, that. Had Waffled not been lynched D1, and been NKd, then glow would still have been around D2 and beyond pursuing Waffles at our expense.

I don't see how that's anything but a hostile party to Town.
 
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