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The Official Feedback Thread

Would the staff be open to future egg hunts to be organized into teams to work in team threads together without sharing answers but only good and fair hints in the team threads?

>I think this will make it easier and more welcoming for newer members, and it could encourage members who aren't on the forums as much to be on the forums more often and it will also help members get more familiar with the site and tbt history.
>The use of good and fair hints will encourage the building of confidence in members of being able to discover and egg without the answer being given to them directly or in a poor hint.
>Organizing groups would keep some groups being super large and could keep groups from sharing stuff with other groups if there is some sort of milestone or reward for not discussing stuff across groups.
>Also, the hunt could start out with the team discussion threads as locked to give a chance for people to look on their own. Later they can be unlocked. But I think my general idea could also work without this completely.

Obviously if people insist on sharing answers outside of tbt nothing can be done about it, but I would like the staff to encourage a good experience in egg hunting. If people insist on spoiling it for themselves, that is on them.
I also think this would be a good way to do it if there are many eggs launched or if we do baskets of eggs in the future.
 
Would the staff be open to future egg hunts to be organized into teams to work in team threads together without sharing answers but only good and fair hints in the team threads?

>I think this will make it easier and more welcoming for newer members, and it could encourage members who aren't on the forums as much to be on the forums more often and it will also help members get more familiar with the site and tbt history.
>The use of good and fair hints will encourage the building of confidence in members of being able to discover and egg without the answer being given to them directly or in a poor hint.
>Organizing groups would keep some groups being super large and could keep groups from sharing stuff with other groups if there is some sort of milestone or reward for not discussing stuff across groups.
>Also, the hunt could start out with the team discussion threads as locked to give a chance for people to look on their own. Later they can be unlocked. But I think my general idea could also work without this completely.

Obviously if people insist on sharing answers outside of tbt nothing can be done about it, but I would like the staff to encourage a good experience in egg hunting. If people insist on spoiling it for themselves, that is on them.
I also think this would be a good way to do it if there are many eggs launched or if we do baskets of eggs in the future.

gonna be blunt here. given how basically every team based event on the site has ended up with people being grouped in horribly unbalanced ways, this sounds like an absolutely terrible idea

to say nothing of how it just adds needless excess work for uh.... what? preserving the sanctity of the hunt or something? (a lot of this post comes off as some weird obsession with this, apologies if I'm misreading)


I do feel for the newer members being possibly intimidated, though it is worth noting that staff have done better about that this year. since people are now able to publicly ask for help (just not post non-community clue hints publicly), while in previous years where help was allowed, it was barred to even publicly ask for it. so people either had to have connections already, or be willing to message someone they likely never interacted with on any meaningful level before and hope for the best. which I feel that this being unfair to newer members is why staff changed that

that said though, I will say that this change feels rather lost in the text bloat of the egg hunt op, and hopefully for future hunts could be made more easily discernible
 
Would the staff be open to future egg hunts to be organized into teams to work in team threads together without sharing answers but only good and fair hints in the team threads?

>I think this will make it easier and more welcoming for newer members, and it could encourage members who aren't on the forums as much to be on the forums more often and it will also help members get more familiar with the site and tbt history.
>The use of good and fair hints will encourage the building of confidence in members of being able to discover and egg without the answer being given to them directly or in a poor hint.
>Organizing groups would keep some groups being super large and could keep groups from sharing stuff with other groups if there is some sort of milestone or reward for not discussing stuff across groups.
>Also, the hunt could start out with the team discussion threads as locked to give a chance for people to look on their own. Later they can be unlocked. But I think my general idea could also work without this completely.

Obviously if people insist on sharing answers outside of tbt nothing can be done about it, but I would like the staff to encourage a good experience in egg hunting. If people insist on spoiling it for themselves, that is on them.
I also think this would be a good way to do it if there are many eggs launched or if we do baskets of eggs in the future.
Yeah I don't like this suggestion either, I'm not a fan of everything becoming a forced group project.

>"Organizing groups would keep some groups being super large and could keep groups from sharing stuff with other groups if there is some sort of milestone or reward for not discussing stuff across groups."

I don't see why it matters if groups share amongst each other in the first place, but how would staff know if people didn't just dm each other in private? It'd be impossible to moderate something like that let alone reward it.

I can see why these events freak out new users every year, maybe instead of changing the whole event someone could take initiative to make a separate thread in HQ where people can post if their messages are open to people wanting help.

>"I would like the staff to encourage a good experience in egg hunting. If people insist on spoiling it for themselves, that is on them."

If I respond to this part I want to make sure I'm understanding you right so: What consists of "a good experience" and "spoiling it for themselves" exactly?
 
I can see why these events freak out new users every year, maybe instead of changing the whole event someone could take initiative to make a separate thread in HQ where people can post if their messages are open to people wanting help.
The community eggs sort of take this role, but I wonder if staff would be able to add some easier clues to the hunt so it’s more accessible to newbies. I personally enjoy how cryptic and stressful the clues can be, and that’s why this is my favorite event, but I don’t think it’s the most welcoming to people who haven’t studied their TBT lore. It seems just about every other event gives out some kind of reward for participating, so maybe a few easier clues wouldn’t be a bad thing.
 
I can see why these events freak out new users every year, maybe instead of changing the whole event someone could take initiative to make a separate thread in HQ where people can post if their messages are open to people wanting help.

hold up. this just gave me an idea

what about giving people an opt-in title for the event that would display on their sidebar (similar to the staff banners) and let people know they're open to giving help

something like "helper bunny" or such
 
gonna be blunt here. given how basically every team based event on the site has ended up with people being grouped in horribly unbalanced ways, this sounds like an absolutely terrible idea

to say nothing of how it just adds needless excess work for uh.... what? preserving the sanctity of the hunt or something? (a lot of this post comes off as some weird obsession with this, apologies if I'm misreading)


I do feel for the newer members being possibly intimidated, though it is worth noting that staff have done better about that this year. since people are now able to publicly ask for help (just not post non-community clue hints publicly), while in previous years where help was allowed, it was barred to even publicly ask for it. so people either had to have connections already, or be willing to message someone they likely never interacted with on any meaningful level before and hope for the best. which I feel that this being unfair to newer members is why staff changed that

that said though, I will say that this change feels rather lost in the text bloat of the egg hunt op, and hopefully for future hunts could be made more easily discernible
In the past, there were times where people could organize into groups through an event announcement thread. There was a limit on how many can be in a group. I didn't think this lead to unbalanced grouping? I mean, I guess it could be by rng if you'd like?
I didn't say anything about preserving the sanctity of the hunt... Whatever that is suppose to mean. I did give reasons for why I thought it may be a good idea.. but I'd like to mention that I was under the impression that the staff had eggs organized into categories for a reason. Solo vs community and I remember concerns in the past with hunts or riddles or whatever being mentioned about worries of answers being passed around rather than hints.
My suggestion is not an obsession, as this is the first time of saying anything about it. If this thought of yours has to do with my statements of confidence.. then I could explain my statement a bit more. I have simply just noticed people commenting that they feel dumb for not finding or getting something.. or expressing disappointment or frustration in not getting it and this is even more common among newer members. But I suppose we could just continue to ignore it.
Either way, you don't have to agree with my suggestion, it's fine
 
The community eggs sort of take this role, but I wonder if staff would be able to add some easier clues to the hunt so it’s more accessible to newbies. I personally enjoy how cryptic and stressful the clues can be, and that’s why this is my favorite event, but I don’t think it’s the most welcoming to people who haven’t studied their TBT lore. It seems just about every other event gives out some kind of reward for participating, so maybe a few easier clues wouldn’t be a bad thing.

this might be me being pretty desensitized by this point, but I do honestly feel like there's generality a pretty good range of easy for newer members to hard even for veterans eggs

plus if nothing else, the tried and true brute force check the op of the first page of all major boards methods holds as true today as it did when I did my first egg hunt over a decade ago
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In the past, there were times where people could organize into groups through an event announcement thread.

I think we're thinking of different sorts of "group" events here, tbh

but regardless, I still don't think this is a very good idea. it just overall feels unnecessarily exclusionary, even as it tries to help newer members
 
this might be me being pretty desensitized by this point, but I do honestly feel like there's generality a pretty good range of easy for newer members to hard even for veterans eggs

plus if nothing else, the tried and true brute force check the op of the first page of all major boards methods holds as true today as it did when I did my first egg hunt over a decade ago
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I think we're thinking of different sorts of "group" events here, tbh

but regardless, I still don't think this is a very good idea. it just overall feels unnecessarily exclusionary, even as it tries to help newer members
That's cool. I would just suggest posting an "instead of of" or your alternative ideal for staff review.
Hopefully that didn't sound aggressive. I posted this thought here so the eggs hunts and similar natured events could be tweaked as well as my idea tweaked or given a whole reason to be shelved. Instead of people assembling into organized groups, and having a time period for that to happen in an event announcement thread, what would you (the community in general) suggest? I figured this would be friendlier to newer members? So they don't have to make connections in their own through PMs.
Group discussion could be in a group thread. Hints asked and shared would be in a group thread instead of an public large thread.
 
Yeah I don't like this suggestion either, I'm not a fan of everything becoming a forced group project.

>"Organizing groups would keep some groups being super large and could keep groups from sharing stuff with other groups if there is some sort of milestone or reward for not discussing stuff across groups."

I don't see why it matters if groups share amongst each other in the first place, but how would staff know if people didn't just dm each other in private? It'd be impossible to moderate something like that let alone reward it.

I can see why these events freak out new users every year, maybe instead of changing the whole event someone could take initiative to make a separate thread in HQ where people can post if their messages are open to people wanting help.

>"I would like the staff to encourage a good experience in egg hunting. If people insist on spoiling it for themselves, that is on them."

If I respond to this part I want to make sure I'm understanding you right so: What consists of "a good experience" and "spoiling it for themselves" exactly?
I feel like my previous comments cover it. But I can expand on the last bit a little more.
What consists of "a good experience" and "spoiling it for themselves" exactly?
Well, what consists of a good experience for you and what could consist of spoiling it for themselves?
This is a feedback thread for the community. it can be discussed. That's why I bothered posting here vs a private thread.

If you are more interested in what I think in particular for whatever reason.. it would be
- a good experience is having hints in spoilers.
- a good experience is finding an egg without it being directly given (in other words... Use hints, and make hints the best you can as hints)
- a good experience is finding eggs within a reasonable amount of time, which group work promoted. Many hands makes light work.. and I'm sure not everyone is on at the same time all the time.
- a good experience is positive interaction with others, if you do chose to interact
- a good experience is feeling comfortable to reach out of interact with other members
- a good experience is feeling like achieving something together as a group, if in a group which my topic is about groups... Which no one is forced/has to be forced to be in
- you know, a positive experience. Sometimes that may even include the availability of event currency in an event. Which for the egg hunt was discussed in the poll held not long ago. None the less it is an example.
Whatever
A lot of my post focuses on new members and members who may not be active and they want to join into the egg hunt but feel frustrated, odd, unfamiliar or left out ect.

- spoiling it for themselves could be purposefully not putting forth effort in finding your eggs. Such as passing answers around in direct messages somewhere else. As already stated in my post, something like that can't be moderated and honestly has its own penalty. This isn't a judgment. Just an explanation that staff shouldn't worry about people dming direct answers, because that is just spoiling it for themselves and it would be off site anyway. Which if people do feel comfortable interacting with members in groups, and do feel or build confidence in being able to find or figure out eggs and hints.. the chance of dms off site for answers being handed out is greatly reduced anyway.

Hopefully this thought process makes sense.
 
I feel like my previous comments cover it. But I can expand on the last bit a little more.
What consists of "a good experience" and "spoiling it for themselves" exactly?
Well, what consists of a good experience for you and what could consist of spoiling it for themselves?
This is a feedback thread for the community. it can be discussed. That's why I bothered posting here vs a private thread.

If you are more interested in what I think in particular for whatever reason.. it would be
- a good experience is having hints in spoilers.
- a good experience is finding an egg without it being directly given (in other words... Use hints, and make hints the best you can as hints)
- a good experience is finding eggs within a reasonable amount of time, which group work promoted. Many hands makes light work.. and I'm sure not everyone is on at the same time all the time.
- a good experience is positive interaction with others, if you do chose to interact
- a good experience is feeling comfortable to reach out of interact with other members
- a good experience is feeling like achieving something together as a group, if in a group which my topic is about groups... Which no one is forced/has to be forced to be in
- you know, a positive experience. Sometimes that may even include the availability of event currency in an event. Which for the egg hunt was discussed in the poll held not long ago. None the less it is an example.
Whatever
A lot of my post focuses on new members and members who may not be active and they want to join into the egg hunt but feel frustrated, odd, unfamiliar or left out ect.

- spoiling it for themselves could be purposefully not putting forth effort in finding your eggs. Such as passing answers around in direct messages somewhere else. As already stated in my post, something like that can't be moderated and honestly has its own penalty. This isn't a judgment. Just an explanation that staff shouldn't worry about people dming direct answers, because that is just spoiling it for themselves and it would be off site anyway. Which if people do feel comfortable interacting with members in groups, and do feel or build confidence in being able to find or figure out eggs and hints.. the chance of dms off site for answers being handed out is greatly reduced anyway.

Hopefully this thought process makes sense.
All of that is already covered by community clues though. I think the balance of having some eggs be "solo" with the community eggs being harder but being a group effort is fair, and I know I'm not alone in that.

I hardly see linking eggs between others as "spoiling" anything, some of us don't have hours to spend hunting every egg. I used to do that and it was pretty draining. IMO the only people spoiling the event are the people who can't accept that an egg may take more than 10 minutes for them to get, but there's very little of that
 
All of that is already covered by community clues though. I think the balance of having some eggs be "solo" with the community eggs being harder but being a group effort is fair, and I know I'm not alone in that.

I hardly see linking eggs between others as "spoiling" anything, some of us don't have hours to spend hunting every egg. I used to do that and it was pretty draining. IMO the only people spoiling the event are the people who can't accept that an egg may take more than 10 minutes for them to get, but there's very little of that
I'm not saying it is unfair. I'm suggesting group work being done in threads instead of personal messaging is more welcoming and could provide a more positive experience. Which group work greatly reduces time spent on finding an egg if you want to be in a group. And it seems "solo" eggs are allowed to be discussed in private at this point anyway. So I also don't see the point in categorizing them as solo vs community anyway, unless it is a descriptor of the difficulty level.
 
I'm not saying it is unfair. I'm suggesting group work being done in threads instead of personal messaging is more welcoming and could provide a more positive experience. Which group work greatly reduces time spent on finding an egg if you want to be in a group. And it seems "solo" eggs are allowed to be discussed in private at this point anyway. So I also don't see the point in categorizing them as solo vs community anyway, unless it is a descriptor of the difficulty level.
Community eggs are indeed harder, that's why they're allowed to be worked on by the whole site. If every clue was worked on in public it'd kind of negate the whole being a "hunt" imo, it's supposed to be challenging. I like Lambda's idea of people being able to assign themselves a "helper" role.
 
Community eggs are indeed harder, that's why they're allowed to be worked on by the whole site. If every clue was worked on in public it'd kind of negate the whole being a "hunt" imo, it's supposed to be challenging. I like Lambda's idea of people being able to assign themselves a "helper" role.
I'm not suggesting making the event easier. And nowhere did I say eggs should be solved publicly. Group threads aren't public. They are just an alternative to direct messaging for hint help from people in the group that did find an egg.
 
I'm not suggesting making the event easier. And nowhere did I say eggs should be solved publicly. Group threads aren't public. They are just an alternative to direct messaging for hint help from people in the group that did find an egg.
But your suggestion would quite literally make it easier.

The first Camp Bell Tree had group egg hunts and you're suggesting pretty much the same idea except easier, since during camp the clues were intentionally made hard due to them being community-based.
 
But your suggestion would quite literally make it easier.

The first Camp Bell Tree had group egg hunts and you're suggesting pretty much the same idea except easier, since during camp the clues were intentionally made hard due to them being community-based.
How?
"Solo" eggs are already allowed to be discussed in personal messages.
Instead of allowing that, I'm suggesting that groups could be formed and hints used in group threads instead of pms.
 
But your suggestion would quite literally make it easier.

The first Camp Bell Tree had group egg hunts and you're suggesting pretty much the same idea except easier, since during camp the clues were intentionally made hard due to them being community-based.

there were clues? I thought it was the "eggs are hidden, find them on your own. first to find gets and nobody else" event

or was that something else?
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Instead of allowing that, I'm suggesting that groups could be formed and hints used in group threads instead of pms.

just gonna point out here that the amount of people in a chat presumably deemed acceptible for giving solo clue help is already fully covered by a group pm, if not possibly exceeding it

this does nothing except to add more work for staff with the event and railroading users


plus, even absent any other criticism I have here, speaking strictly as a former admin on other sites with experience in how forum software generally works: setting up private group threads for solo clues across myriad groups would be absolute hell. it isn't just a "here's your group, and here's your group thread" flip switch thing. there is an absolute ton of backend that would need doing to even get this started
 
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there were clues? I thought it was the "eggs are hidden, find them on your own. first to find gets and nobody else" event

or was that something else?
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just gonna point out here that the amount of people in a chat presumably deemed acceptible for giving solo clue help is already fully covered by a group pm, if not possibly exceeding it

this does nothing except to add more work for staff with the event and railroading users


plus, even absent any other criticism I have here, speaking strictly as a former admin on other sites with experience in how forum software generally works: setting up private group threads for solo clues across myriad groups would be absolute hell. it isn't just a "here's your group, and here's your group thread" flip switch thing. there is an absolute ton of backend that would need doing to even get this started
I didn't think it would be a huge deal to do, due to how camps are sometimes ran. Either way, just an idea I decided to throw out here. Staff can look at it and decide for themselves, but I thought, if my idea is understood, getting some contrast from other members could be beneficial.
 
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