Mafia The Quest for King - Mafia | Game Thread | GAME OVER

[Damniel]

I need to reread Trent too. Not entirely convinced he's town based on the stand back play from EOD

I feel like the wolves were just complicit in the state of EOD

I think Tessa is most likely town. I think ness is probably town too still

 

[oath2order]

you you've been in the background saying nothing this whole time, and that you wanted myself and Chris dead without an explanation

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am I still mafia between myself and Chris, oathy?

I mean, I'm not entirely convinced you're town. I have no evidence to prove one way or another but it's possible. at the time i had the mindset of y'all faking an argument to prove one of y'all as town but that's not the case

what sticks me out for killing over what other people have sus'd like volt, for example

 

[voltairenism]

also i ask once again from the nerds if we can now assume that mafia has 1kp

 

[Damniel]

annika
mostly under radar, but would quickly answer whenever pinged so they were active at the time. voted for tessa what wouldnt turn any eyes
also their strongest read on anything was a townlead on ribbit which is justified by that post that is up there bc i cant cut and paste under. i dont think it has much depth and just felt like a plot point cherry picked. more than a couple of people talked abt bussing bc it feels very natural in this setup

I think it's between Annika or Volt for me. I might be convinced on Annika

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also i ask once again from the nerds if we can now assume that mafia has 1kp

I think 2 night kills in a 14 player setup would be too much

 

[ribbitribbon]

also i ask once again from the nerds if we can now assume that mafia has 1kp

i think it’s unlikely mafia would either kill the same person king would or save an extra kill for later

i’m not sure if they have the choice to nk either considering how king works

 

[EpicGamer12]

Gabby has been replaced by @EnderWiggin.

 

[N e s s]

huh

 

[Damniel]

omg Ender what

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GABBY REDEMPTION I KNEW I COULD SAVE HER

I guess you were right but not in the way we expected

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Gabby has been replaced by @EnderWiggin.

Is Geoni being replaced?

 

[EnderWiggin]

Hi I've read nothing.

But I'm here to save people mario-style and pretend I don't lose my girlfriend to a turtle-dragon every winter.

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Also I'm currently providing the supply chain of eclipse photos for my friends so good luck getting me to say anything reasonable within a short timeframe

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... Did trundle dupe me into playing a Kingmaker game.

Lmao

 

[voltairenism]

I'm now back and ready to rock

this aged well

 

[EnderWiggin]

I feel like I'm half spamming now but:
Do we have an explicit claim on who Tessa killed as king N1?

 

[voltairenism]

i think it’s unlikely mafia would either kill the same person king would or save an extra kill for later

i’m not sure if they have the choice to nk either considering how king works

I think 2 night kills in a 14 player setup would be too much

makes sense tyty

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I feel like I'm half spamming now but:
Do we have an explicit claim on who Tessa killed as king N1?

yep

yes guys im here good lord was not expecting to lose a pr

idk how involved i can be today. my sickness is getting worse smh. i'll try my best.

responding to if they killed chris

 

[EnderWiggin]

Okay that's not the worst. I was ready to roast them over a stake if they'd killed Shiny

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I feel like I used to have a great read on Volt but I forgot what it was I used to read them. More on this after tonight's "Why is voting wagons scummy"

 

[voltairenism]

you did use to read me like a book. honestly i dont know if i play like i used to though

 

[Trent the Paladin]

Why would it be okay day one? It's either okay all the days or none of them, day one we should be voting for someone who is committed to their choice. If @Geoni comes in and hard picks me as their day one elim, that's better than Johnny Lightning Legoman asking us which unfortunate lil guy has to eat the dirt.

Taps sign for @Damniel, I'm not sure what more you were expecting from me EoD. I'm not convinced sharing lists and kill by committee is optimal here in this setup.

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Gabby has been replaced by @EnderWiggin.

Also being for real this was not the replacement I was expecting. I thought Ribbon or Geoni, but hello again Ender

 

[N e s s]

I mean, I'm not entirely convinced you're town. I have no evidence to prove one way or another but it's possible. at the time i had the mindset of y'all faking an argument to prove one of y'all as town but that's not the case

what sticks me out for killing over what other people have sus'd like volt, for example

You're giving what feels like a politician providing a solid sentence but really it's just sweet nothings. You're saying its a possibility that I'm mafia (obviously), but you said this at EOD:

I think out of Ness and Chris, one is probably mafia. So I'd go for one of them.

Why couldn't you just choose one of us, am I probably mafia or is it just a possibility? With Chris gone I should be wolf by the standards you've provided.

Nobody has evidence, why aren't you providing your thoughts on anyone to promote discussion?

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And I dunno how you could think I was faking that with Chris, I thought it was obvious I wanted them gone out of anyone.

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@Trent the Paladin Did I satiate your curiosity on why I want to be king this phase?

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Thinking about it that contradicts things, Oath said one of Me/Chris were mafia, not that we were both mafia faking an interaction.

 

[Damniel]

I don’t really think a maf Ness would go hard red read on Chris based on their only post, continue to tunnel and advocate for their death when it was very plausible they would be killed. I feel that confidence was genuine otherwise I think a maf Ness would’ve backed off earlier

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Like, I don’t think mafia would go that hard on a read D1 when they know they’re wrong

 

[voltairenism]

isoing ribbit

imo we should select a king who will pick their own kill. that'll give us more reads for tomorrow. if we elect a mafia into power who picks a kill everybody told them to pick, that won't tell us much.

i remember liking this post because mafia def prefers knowing the kill beforehand. having this take so unpromptly sounds like something mafia wouldnt do

the next posts of them is basically reinterating this point

sure, in particular i find these two lines to be what make me think that:



tessa avoiding answering both makes me think one of these is a bus— from mafia games i’ve played on other sites i’ve noticed 9 times out of 10 the town is a little more desperate to prove themselves; on the other hand the mafia try to separate themselves from their team mates. i also might be being paranoid, but arstozkan seemed a little eager to jump on ness’ read.

atm, i have a hard townread on damniel, but i think someone like volt or trent would be a more interesting king pick. i’ll think more on today before deciding who to vote.

space for asking ribbit if they ever expanded on why me or trent even though they townread dan if i dont find it
@ribbitribbon tagging bc i didnt find it. can you explain it for us?
i think this was the post that derailed everything. i don't really like it because it sounds very left-field but im deciding if it's so wolfy to be wolf. the issue with it for me is that accusing tessa of distancing seems a bit like trying to moot on them
but honestly i feel like this point was just badly worded (late volt correction: not sure abt this anymore because i cant find ribbit talking more abt it)

ribbit also mentioned again voting trent what i dont think makes a lot of sense since trent was pushing no vote. i will give a chance and say ribbit just missed it, bc i also missed that shiny said they would 'no kill'

what’s your position on electing someone potentially maffy into power?

i don’t think it’s entirely a bad idea because it puts the mafia in a weird position— if they make a bad king kill choice they’ll be subject to accusations tomorrow, where as killing their partner is bad in the long run.

i’m not saying that i want to do that d1, but in the future would you think that’s a bad idea?

straight up i just doubt on this level of open wolfing
and what can i say, i agree. cant be conviced that mafia wasnt avoiding to be crowned
@ribbitribbon what is your currently view on tessa? sorry if you said something and i missed the ISO function is wild

ribbit just feels a bit weird because they wanted to vote trent and voted tessa, both which went against with what they said about optimal king choices (as tessa was going for town options for a kill) and thats the only thing i found going for them. i cant find any posts talking about this bussing point but i remember them talking more abt it

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I don’t really think a maf Ness would go hard red read on Chris based on their only post, continue to tunnel and advocate for their death when it was very plausible they would be killed. I feel that confidence was genuine otherwise I think a maf Ness would’ve backed off earlier

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Like, I don’t think mafia would go that hard on a read D1 when they know they’re wrong

in all honesty i wouldnt discard him based off that bc in the past hes been rly. rly comfortable with open wolfing
but i deadass dont have anything to wolfread him
also ness stopped advocating for it and distanciated himself from the moot at the end, although his reasoning for it is fine

 

[Trent the Paladin]

@Trent the Paladin Did I satiate your curiosity on why I want to be king this phase?

A bit. I don't exactly disagree with the logic behind think Oath is a good kill, them lurking in the background mostly and generally posting Day 1 when called out didn't fully sit right but I was/am willing to chalk it up to just uncertainty about the setup. That said, I don't exactly trust you enough right now to consider voting you king and I trust Daniel even less despite Dan being heavy into seemingly trying to game solve.

Also going back to Chris' post here,

I mentioned those three names as a, hey, these are the people I'm actively watching. It certainly wasn't intended to be subtle! If I need to say it louder: HEY DANIEL, NESS, AND TRENT - I'm paying extra special care to your posts!

I'm a bit inclined to agree that at least one of us three is probably a wolf, it's just a matter of who. Naturally I'm removing myself from the equation, so it's just who is the bigger evil, you or Dan. Hence me asking this earlier:

Dan not dying is odd, but I also thought I'd be most likely to die as going into to Night I felt like I was on a majority of town read lists. Speaking of, why did a lot of ya'll pick Tessa over Dan?

Dan's been the one to lead discussions and while a lot of you did say in some form that Chris was an optimal choice for N1, Dan did kind of keep narrowing suspects for Tessa to pick from.

 

[ribbitribbon]

isoing ribbit


i remember liking this post because mafia def prefers knowing the kill beforehand. having this take so unpromptly sounds like something mafia wouldnt do

the next posts of them is basically reinterating this point

space for asking ribbit if they ever expanded on why me or trent even though they townread dan if i dont find it
@ribbitribbon tagging bc i didnt find it. can you explain it for us?
i think this was the post that derailed everything. i don't really like it because it sounds very left-field but im deciding if it's so wolfy to be wolf. the issue with it for me is that accusing tessa of distancing seems a bit like trying to moot on them
but honestly i feel like this point was just badly worded (late volt correction: not sure abt this anymore because i cant find ribbit talking more abt it)

ribbit also mentioned again voting trent what i dont think makes a lot of sense since trent was pushing no vote. i will give a chance and say ribbit just missed it, bc i also missed that shiny said they would 'no kill'

straight up i just doubt on this level of open wolfing
and what can i say, i agree. cant be conviced that mafia wasnt avoiding to be crowned
@ribbitribbon what is your currently view on tessa? sorry if you said something and i missed the ISO function is wild

ribbit just feels a bit weird because they wanted to vote trent and voted tessa, both which went against with what they said about optimal king choices (as tessa was going for town options for a kill) and thats the only thing i found going for them. i cant find any posts talking about this bussing point but i remember them talking more abt it

i explained most of the stuff at the end of your post here:

actually this is kind of off topic but before i run out the door i think we should coordinate our votes to prevent forcing a no elect of having potentially 3 mafias vote themselves into power, so unless anyone else would vote trent with me i’ll have to reconsider again lol

i voted tessa against my previous thought because i didn’t want to risk a no crown; since i didn’t have time to go and find another king idea in the candidates i sheeped annika and dan since i liked their reasoning for her. also later iirc a few people pointed out my initial theory seemed more like a bandwagon than a bus, and i agree so i dropped it.

also i liked you and trent as candidates because you both seemed to have strong opinions without outing them to the town. i still townread damniel but he outs his reads explicitly and publicly so i don’t see him as an optimal king.

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@ribbitribbon what is your currently view on tessa? sorry if you said something and i missed the ISO function is wild

i also forgot to answer this, but i’m neutral towards her. i haven’t done a lot of digging, i have yet to see anyone accuse her so i didn’t feel the need. the king kill was decided by the town pretty blatantly too which would be the only thing i would have against her. i’ll reread and think about her more