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[moonford]

I unvoted Jacob to see what you guys think we should do.

We have a lot of time to decide.

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There's something called reverse psychology, google it.

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I just noticed the "Zendel is triggered" tag.

No, I'm not "triggered" sweaty.

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Lmao, anyway.

I'd like to hear from Nightmares, Byngo and Uttumori. c:
So please let us know what you think guys.

 

[Nightmares]

I unvoted Jacob to see what you guys think we should do.

We have a lot of time to decide.

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I just noticed the "Zendel is triggered" tag.

No, I'm not "triggered" sweaty.

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Lmao, anyway.

I'd like to hear from Nightmares, Byngo and Uttumori. c:
So please let us know what you think guys.

If I had to pick, it'd be Heyden

 

[moonford]

3 on Heyden so far.

 

[Byngo]

mainly find Jacob scummy for swooping in to tell people not to discuss trundles spam. when a good chunk of his content is riddled with spam and sarcasm, what else are you supposed to talk about when looking at him?

"u can tell what his alignment is based on the correctness of his pushes" so u'd only question him after he gets someone lynched. is there an underlying reason for that? ��

btw yes you did defend him

 

[moonford]

mainly find Jacob scummy for swooping in to tell people not to discuss trundles spam. when a good chunk of his content is riddled with spam and sarcasm, what else are you supposed to talk about when looking at him?

"u can tell what his alignment is based on the correctness of his pushes" so u'd only question him after he gets someone lynched. is there an underlying reason for that? ��

btw yes you did defend him

Same, I think Jacob should be lynched but if people insist that we should vote for Heyden I guess I'll vote for him.

I'm fine with any of them being lynched as I find them all scummy.

Mog reminds me of Amanda right now.

 

[N e s s]

The interactions between Jacob and Heyden are more than likely TownvScum. I highly doubt that they would both be scum together. There is certain degree of scuminess to both of them, but I'm leaning more towards Jacob being scum

If you think I'm stupid enough to kill glow after hardly getting impression scum-lean from her, you're mistaken.

(( Heyden, one of her bestest friends on tbt, is in fact the kind of person to kill her night one, just for the post game laughs. Any experienced player can probably back me up on that. But that's not why I think he's scum... Just icing on the cake)

The best reason I can think that mafia would have killed glow was because they were scared about what she could do. In this case I can see glow dying to heyden, given she was suspicious of him before her death. However, I believe you come from a postition that is counting on us thinking that way.

Your hypothesis for why Heyden would have killed glow is weak. Given that scum act as a unit, and I *highly* doubt that if heyden were scum his team mates wouldn't be very open to killing glow for "post game jokes".

Reads are scum leads are still Heyden and Bowie. (It's not an OMGUS on Heyden, I've had these 2 scum lean since the beginning.)
I posted my reasoning against both of them already and I can always pull that back up for you.

The Bowie scum read has no backbone to it and you haven't said a word about Bowie for three days up until this exact point. I don't agree with Bowie's scum reads on Apples or Nightmares, but I sense there to be no malignity behind his posts. I've applied pressure on him, and he didn't do the usual newbie scum routine of becoming nervous.

Jacob's heyden scum read is equally as bad.

Well my reasons past the initial META incongruence, which is just mind BAFFLING to me personally, are just basically through PR fishing (a.) and reactions (b.) to an actual claim

a.

i think tensu should just claim, i don't think we're gonna get any further and it's probs gonna be left until last minute

luca should claim even tho it won't prove much but we've only got an hour so

b.

oh k then
yay

literally why would you say YAY to a doctor claim

I will give Jacob credit where credit is due, part A of this post makes sense and I can see why it would make Heyden scum, but part B is grasping at straws. Heyden is known for making sarcastic remarks and him being clumsy here doesn't surprise me.

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Jacob, you stated in one of your posts that you think Heyden is scum based off of meta. Can you please point out some similarities to this game and his scum meta?

 

[Bowie]

Sorry I'm late. Something personal came up.

Heyden, Apple, and possibly Nightmares are my top three suspects. I have some gut feelings about other players, but nothing to back them up with so far, so I'm just gonna leave it at that.

If nobody says anything significant today, I'll just go ahead and vote for Apple, 'cause I'm certain he's Mafia.

 

[N e s s]

By the way, I don't think that Cleb's reads are very credible reason to be suspicious of Jacob, Mog or Heyden given that he posted his reads about 10 minutes before the day post.

 

[Jacob]

mainly find Jacob scummy for swooping in to tell people not to discuss trundles spam. when a good chunk of his content is riddled with spam and sarcasm, what else are you supposed to talk about when looking at him?

"u can tell what his alignment is based on the correctness of his pushes" so u'd only question him after he gets someone lynched. is there an underlying reason for that? ��

btw yes you did defend him

I guess that's fair, but my intention behind my posts on trundle weren't to defend him. I was mainly trying to get at: just because Trundle is playing with a lot of spam and one lined "Let's vote ____" that doesn't mean he's scum, which I thought people were scratching at. I've played a lot of games where trundle played like that and ended up leading town to victory.

Also my statement about being able to tell his alignment by his pushes wasn't serious, hence the little I threw in at the end. But I guess I can't stop you from using that against me

Jacob, you stated in one of your posts that you think Heyden is scum based off of meta. Can you please point out some similarities to this game and his scum meta?

Sure, but for a meta analysis do you want me to find specific posts from other games? I was actually comparing his play now to his normal play as town, not in his play as scum. I don't think I've played a game where he's been scum in a long time honestly. I assumed more people would be familiar with his unpredictable sort of town play.

 

[moonford]

I guess that's fair, but my intention behind my posts on trundle weren't to defend him. I was mainly trying to get at: just because Trundle is playing with a lot of spam and one lined "Let's vote ____" that doesn't mean he's scum, which I thought people were scratching at. I've played a lot of games where trundle played like that and ended up leading town to victory.

Also my statement about being able to tell his alignment by his pushes wasn't serious, hence the little I threw in at the end. But I guess I can't stop you from using that against me



Sure, but for a meta analysis do you want me to find specific posts from other games? I was actually comparing his play now to his normal play as town, not in his play as scum. I don't think I've played a game where he's been scum in a long time honestly. I assumed more people would be familiar with his unpredictable sort of town play.

Heyden was scum in the overwatch game, that wasn't too long ago.

 

[Jacob]

By the way, I don't think that Cleb's reads are very credible reason to be suspicious of Jacob, Mog or Heyden given that he posted his reads about 10 minutes before the day post.

I mean I don't see a problem with waiting till the end of day night to post reads, I've done it before just to make sure mafia couldn't discuss what I was saying in time before we were able to start a lynch. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying that was a pretty town thing to do.

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Heyden was scum in the overwatch game, that wasn't too long ago.

Oh ok, yea I guess I can work with that. I forgot about that game.
Maybe I can pull some examples from 2 different games, I'll try to write something good up tonight.

 

[N e s s]

I mean I don't see a problem with waiting till the end of day night to post reads, I've done it before just to make sure mafia couldn't discuss what I was saying in time before we were able to start a lynch. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying that was a pretty town thing to do.

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Oh ok, yea I guess I can work with that. I forgot about that game.
Maybe I can pull some examples from 2 different games, I'll try to write something good up tonight.

You're misinterpreting what I said. Cleb's reads are credible. I just don't think they have much to do with his death and thus not much reason to think that scum killed him because of them, if that makes sense.

 

[Jacob]

You're misinterpreting what I said. Cleb's reads are credible. I just don't think they have much to do with his death and thus not much reason to think that scum killed him because of them, if that makes sense.

Oh ok I see what you're saying now.

I started Hayden's meta analysis. I am using Overwatch mafia as his scum game meta and Miraculous Ladybug for his town meta, they were the biggest and most recent games that could work for this. He only survived Overwatch till Day 2 anyway so I think there is enough scum behavior to analyze.
(I just want to let you know so you don't think I'm ignoring it when it takes a little while to composite)

 

[Bowie]

Voted for Apple. Will withdraw if he can convince me otherwise, but I'm confident.

 

[N e s s]

Voted for Apple. Will withdraw if he can convince me otherwise, but I'm confident.

Jacob and Heyden are looking pretty scummy right now Bowie. Perhaps you could provide more of a case for apples given I don't see much wrong with him.

 

[Nightmares]

Jacob and Heyden are looking pretty scummy right now Bowie. Perhaps you could provide more of a case for apples given I don't see much wrong with him.

Bowie: it's a gut feeling

 

[Bowie]

The main thing that got me suspicious was the way that he jumped on my suspicion of Nightmares. While I am still suspicious of Nightmares, in retrospective I didn't really explain why until after Apple voted for them, giving no one else much reason to follow in my footsteps the way he did, and it seems like a very Scum thing to do if you wanted to jump on the bandwagon of getting rid of Townies.

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Ah, it seems Apple's voted for Heyden.

I refuse to believe it's a coincidence he voted as soon as he realised I was on his back.

 

[moonford]

Apple voted Heyden.....why?

 

[EpicGamer12]

The main thing that got me suspicious was the way that he jumped on my suspicion of Nightmares. While I am still suspicious of Nightmares, in retrospective I didn't really explain why until after Apple voted for them, giving no one else much reason to follow in my footsteps the way he did, and it seems like a very Scum thing to do if you wanted to jump on the bandwagon of getting rid of Townies.

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Ah, it seems Apple's voted for Heyden.

I refuse to believe it's a coincidence he voted as soon as he realised I was on his back.

Feel free to waste a lynch on me. If you really think I am scum, you guys as town have full rights to lynch me and get on with the game. I am perfectly okay with you lynching me if it means you'll get your heads out of your asses sooner.

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Apple voted Heyden.....why?

Because he's scummy af

 

[moonford]

Because he's scummy af

True though...