Trump is moving into the white house

[Blueskyy]

On a related side note, if Lauren Southern was old enough to run for president this year, I'd be happy to have our first woman president.

 

[Tao]

also, when I hear "trump hasn't done any damage yet".. then why is half the world anxiety ridden, depressed and scared for their livelyhood since november? this won't just affect the US.
people need to pay more attention.

anyway good night

Half the world? I'm gonna take a wild guess and say those figures are inaccurate. Feel free to prove me wrong.


Regardless, it's not exactly like anything is going to change because "he makes me sad". He's president now, gotta live with that for 4 years, better get used to it. Rather than throwing around what have essentially been degraded to buzzwords these days like 'depression' and 'anxiety' (not directed at those who actually suffer from those), maybe people should learn how to deal with information and events that don't fit into their personal wants and/or beliefs a little better. Life doesn't go your way sometimes, and despite what you learn in a modern university campus, stamping your feet and screaming "NO I DON'T WANT TO!" won't always make things go your way.


Not saying he's a going to be a great president, but, yano, maybe hope for the best and wait for him to screw up rather than sitting there feeling sorry for yourself as though he already has.



Honestly, it sounds more like people would rather him do everything wrong just so they can claim a hollow victory with an "I told you so!" at the end. "He's screwed everything up just like I said he would, yay! Go me!"...Yea, totally something you want to be correct about, right? I imagine there would actually be outrage and riots if he surprises us all and does a half decent job.

That's because the man is seventy years old. He's lucky to have hair at all. lol

I would rather be bald at 70 than have that hair.

 

[Red Cat]

This! Thisthisthisthis! I wasn't a Trump supporter, wasn't even a Hillary supporter. This election almost tore my family apart due to differences in views, but I am still willing to give this man a CHANCE. To give him a CHANCE to right the wrongs of things he has said, a CHANCE to fulfill his roles and duties with the American people in mind. I don't have to like him as a person, heck, I don't even have to respect him and neither do you. But I choose to see him as what he is, America's president and it's about time people stopped being delusional and did the same. Because that's what he is.

If you want your government to fail, you want your country to fail. I agree with what was stated before, that "Americans give up too easily" because it's so true and how many people are acting lately is a perfect indicator of that. Every post, comment, etc. that says "America is doomed" or "r.i.p America" is giving up. It doesn't change anyone's minds, it only shows that you're not willing to do anything about your situation or even have faith in the idea that we, as a country, will bounce back if things DO turn to ****. We've done it before and, while I hope that we won't have to again, I know we will if it comes down to it.

We really don't have a choice but to give Trump a chance. He is the president and controls the military and the rest of the executive branch, and there is not much anyone can do to change that. That being said, no one is required to give him the benefit of the doubt. As the president, it is incumbent on him to earn people's trust and not just demand it because he's president. That's not how it works in a democracy. If people (like me) want to have their hearts set on making sure that Trump's 4 years don't become 8 right from day 1, that is their right. I'm not rooting against Trump or America and I don't own a crystal ball, but history suggests that these kinds of experiments do not end well. So I'd rather be prepared for Trump to fail than wait for him to fail and then run around like a chicken with its head cut off. There is nothing wrong about being proactive.

I agree with you that the "America is doomed" stuff is dumb, mostly because it sets the bar for Trump too low. I don't want people to think of keeping America in one piece as Trump exceeding expectations. Trump has made all these big promises and if he can't deliver, then people should hold his feet to the fire when his "job performance review" comes up in 4 years.

 

[Stepheroo]

We really don't have a choice but to give Trump a chance. He is the president and controls the military and the rest of the executive branch, and there is not much anyone can do to change that. That being said, no one is required to give him the benefit of the doubt. As the president, it is incumbent on him to earn people's trust and not just demand it because he's president. That's not how it works in a democracy. If people (like me) want to have their hearts set on making sure that Trump's 4 years don't become 8 right from day 1, that is their right. I'm not rooting against Trump or America and I don't own a crystal ball, but history suggests that these kinds of experiments do not end well. So I'd rather be prepared for Trump to fail than wait for him to fail and then run around like a chicken with its head cut off. There is nothing wrong about being proactive.

I agree with you that the "America is doomed" stuff is dumb, mostly because it sets the bar for Trump too low. I don't want people to think of keeping America in one piece as Trump exceeding expectations. Trump has made all these big promises and if he can't deliver, then people should hold his feet to the fire when his "job performance review" comes up in 4 years.

My point is that some of the comments I'm seeing are like people want him to do even WORSE, they want him to fail even harder than he has with some of the stuff he has said and that's not in the country's best interests to want that, it only makes that person look hateful.

I never stated I wanted his 4 years to turn into 8, because I don't (at all), nor am I telling people to suck it up and suddenly be all gung-ho about his presidency, because I'm certainly not. But like I said, lots of people are being just being downright hateful and not what I would call proactive. And yes, if he isn't able to do what he promises and doesn't end up doing a good enough job for this country then he should be chewed out and held accountable which is what I would expect to happen to any president.

Sorry if some of this is incoherent, I am on mobile right now and fat fingers + pain meds control my whole being atm.

 

[LinkToTheWorld]

My point is that some of the comments I'm seeing are like people want him to do even WORSE, they want him to fail even harder than he has with some of the stuff he has said and that's not in the country's best interests to want that, it only makes that person look hateful.

I never stated I wanted his 4 years to turn into 8, because I don't (at all), nor am I telling people to suck it up and suddenly be all gung-ho about his presidency, because I'm certainly not. But like I said, lots of people are being just being downright hateful and not what I would call proactive. And yes, if he isn't able to do what he promises and doesn't end up doing a good enough job for this country then he should be chewed out and held accountable which is what I would expect to happen to any president.

Sorry if some of this is incoherent, I am on mobile right now and fat fingers + pain meds control my whole being atm.

We had the same thing over here with Brexit last summer, which seems ridiculous when you compare the two situations. But plenty of people would love to see leaving the EU fail just so they can throw it back at the leave voters. Like I say, I know it's not the same as who is the American president but people have the same kind of thinking.

I can totally understand why people are fearful of Trump being in power, I haven't disliked a politician so much since David Cameron, but there's nothing that can be done now other than to go along with it
He will hopefully be held accountable at the end of his run for anything he messes up along the way

 

[1milk]

This might be another assasination, lmao.

 

[LambdaDelta]

I want them to take care of the increasing problem with political correctness.

wow, I never knew having a basic level of respect for others was a "problem"

How dreadful. I heard that the White House pages for LGBT rights, disabled people, civil rights, climate change, and healthcare all got removed today. The dark ages are upon us.

this is really a perfect summarization of the modern GOP platform

Those who oppose him. Give him a chance.

nah, **** that

he's shown us exactly the type of person he is time and time again. he needs to start proving he deserves to be given another chance at this point

Pence is questionable, sketchy.

the man literally supports conversation therapy

and the fact that Trump choose him as vice president says all that needs to be said about him on that matter as well

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oh btw

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/19...ropose-bills-to-criminalize-peaceful-protest/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/18/indiana-protest-bill-police-power

GOP lawmakers attempting to pass bills that would criminalize and advocate the manslaughter of protesters

 

[LinkToTheWorld]

This might be another assasination, lmao.

Well the way it's split America, it wouldn't surprise me

 

[Eudial]

I've been saying it since this whole thing started, "let's wait and see". It's not Trump that I'm worried about, it's the people who he chose to be around him. I've seen a lot of people saying that after he ends certain programs, that hard-working people will have their money going back into their own pockets... They think by defunding stuff like Planned Parenthood, that things will just "get better". I don't know... I think people just have very high hopes of this man, and the only thing he seems to have on his mind is $$$.

 

[tumut]

What don't you like about him?

-Thinks he was anointed by God to be president
-Tried to blame planned parenthood murders on "transgender liberal activist"
-Deemed gays satanic at a rally like it was normal
-Said Obama pushed refugees to murder innocent Americans...lol
-Thinks we should be a Christian theocracy
-Wants to ignore the supreme court ruling on gay marriage
-Wants to carpet bomb the middle east "without harming civilians" (which is impossible)
-Wants to privatize social security
-Supported TPP and other ****ty free trade deals

Trump is still ****ing awful though but Ted Cruz is way worse

 

[xSuperMario64x]

I like to watch the riots and see how stupid people can really be.

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-Thinks he was anointed by God to be president
-Tried to blame planned parenthood murders on "transgender liberal activist"
-Deemed gays satanic at a rally like it was normal
-Said Obama pushed refugees to murder innocent Americans...lol
-Thinks we should be a Christian theocracy
-Wants to ignore the supreme court ruling on gay marriage
-Wants to carpet bomb the middle east "without harming civilians" (which is impossible)
-Wants to privatize social security
-Supported TPP and other ****ty free trade deals

Trump is still ****ing awful though but Ted Cruz is way worse

Can you give a legitimate source for each of those? Some of them sound like false claims.

 

[Haskell]

-Deemed gays satanic at a rally like it was normal

Here's a link. Get educated.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/23/us/politics/donald-trump-gay-rights.html?_r=1

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Most of those do seem like false claims.

 

[blueninjutsu]

ah, don't really care for trump. he's an idiot.

 

[Haskell]

wow, I never knew having a basic level of respect for others was a "problem"



this is really a perfect summarization of the modern GOP platform



nah, **** that

he's shown us exactly the type of person he is time and time again. he needs to start proving he deserves to be given another chance at this point



the man literally supports conversation therapy

and the fact that Trump choose him as vice president says all that needs to be said about him on that matter as well

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oh btw

https://theintercept.com/2017/01/19...ropose-bills-to-criminalize-peaceful-protest/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/18/indiana-protest-bill-police-power

GOP lawmakers attempting to pass bills that would criminalize and advocate the manslaughter of protesters

For those who aren't giving him a chance... then look at previous comments. Like fr.

I have my opinion over Pence. I don't think he is extremely homophobic. He is homophobic, no doubt about that. But want to know who's more intolerant? You!

When teachers are having to call their students in Pre-K "purple penguins"... I think PC culture has gone too far. As well as when people are "shamed" for having their own opinions.

Fact : Black On White Crime Is Just As Serious As White On Black Crime

Then I get yelled at and hated for being "racist" for the comment I made above.

 

[DJStarstryker]

I personally have really strong opinions about Pence. I said I'm willing to give Trump a chance, though I worry about how well he could do, and this is true. I am willing. But Pence... he seems really extreme. Like if Trump were to die/step down/whatever, and Pence got to take over... I'd be REALLY worried for the country.

 

[Haskell]

I personally have really strong opinions about Pence. I said I'm willing to give Trump a chance, though I worry about how well he could do, and this is true. I am willing. But Pence... he seems really extreme. Like if Trump were to die/step down/whatever, and Pence got to take over... I'd be REALLY worried for the country.

I can totally understand that.

 

[tumut]

I like to watch the riots and see how stupid people can really be.

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Can you give a legitimate source for each of those? Some of them sound like false claims.

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I couldn't find the one about him saying that Obama pushed refugees to attack us citizens but judging but the fact that in an interview with Sean Hannity on Fox he played the hwole "Obama is a secret Muslim" card I wouldn't put it past him

 

[Haskell]

So now you're just speculating and adhering to false claims without any information trying to make it relevant and true?

 

[tumut]

So now you're just speculating and adhering to false claims without any information trying to make it relevant and true?

I thought it was true cause I heard before but it wasn't, 9/10 of those have clear cut evidence. Even the "transgender leftist" thing lmao.
Lets not forget that epic government shutdown shenanigan back in 2013: x
The reason he's worse than Trump is because he's actually serious about his looney ideas and ideology where Trump bluffed for like 70% what he's said vs. what his plans are

 

[DJStarstryker]

I thought it was true cause I heard before but it wasn't, 9/10 of those have clear cut evidence. Even the "transgender leftist" thing lmao.
Lets not forget that epic government shutdown shenanigan back in 2013: x
The reason he's worse than Trump is because he's actually serious about his looney ideas and ideology where Trump bluffed for like 70% what he's said vs. what his plans are

Uh... I worked for the federal government in 2013 (I don't now, FWIW). The shutdown had nothing to do with Obama, and everything to do with Congress. I'm personally more indifferent/slightly disappointed in Obama (I feel like he tried - but he definitely didn't change as much as he claimed he would during the campaign trail), but you can't put that on him.