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Tyeforce said:
Sporge27 said:
Tyeforce said:
Dunno if this has been asked yet or not, but would there be any possibility of doing something like NSider2 did with transferring post counts? I don't think it's very fair for a lot of us veteran members to be forced to start from scratch. Losing our posts and threads is one thing (as long as they'll still be archived here at ZetaBoards), but making us start completely from scratch like any other newcomer just isn't right. And, no, post count isn't everything, I know that. But it's going to make everyone look like newbies, no matter how much they've contributed to the community in the past.

It's too bad the move couldn't have waited until Andrew finished his forum software, which he would have made sure would be able to transfer all data from ZetaBoards. Oh, well. I like the new theme, at least.
Tell you what, if you are still sore about it after the move, you can add this into your sig

"My other account had #### posts!"

Then everyone will still know!
No, that's not the point I'm trying to make... It's not about post count. It's about transferring what we can from here, so it still feels like a continuation, not a reboot. I don't care if we all started back at zero for everything...if it was a new forum. But it's not, it's still The Bell Tree. It's not TBT2 or anything like that. I guess I might feel that way because I'm a little disappointed that it couldn't have waited until the transfer of data from ZetaBoards was possible. Still, it doesn't seem like the staff even cares about making it a continuation, and that bothers me.
ZetaBoards doesn't give out their data for any transfer, so I don't see how transferring is possible with any software.
 
I also don't see why NSider2 is suddenly the benchmark for a well-run forum. That place is a disaster.
 
Bulerias said:
I also don't see why NSider2 is suddenly the benchmark for a well-run forum. That place is a disaster.
It is very much. That's why I left.
The only thing similar between these two forums is that they will both be on vBulliten.

@Tye: NSider2 was never on Zetaboards. Were we going from Zeta to Invision (which would not make any sense), we would retain the data. However, since zetaboards and vBul are two completely different systems, they are not compatible. It would be like trying to play a wii game on a PS3 without the.
 
Tyeforce said:
Sporge27 said:
Tyeforce said:
Dunno if this has been asked yet or not, but would there be any possibility of doing something like NSider2 did with transferring post counts? I don't think it's very fair for a lot of us veteran members to be forced to start from scratch. Losing our posts and threads is one thing (as long as they'll still be archived here at ZetaBoards), but making us start completely from scratch like any other newcomer just isn't right. And, no, post count isn't everything, I know that. But it's going to make everyone look like newbies, no matter how much they've contributed to the community in the past.

It's too bad the move couldn't have waited until Andrew finished his forum software, which he would have made sure would be able to transfer all data from ZetaBoards. Oh, well. I like the new theme, at least.
Tell you what, if you are still sore about it after the move, you can add this into your sig

"My other account had #### posts!"

Then everyone will still know!
No, that's not the point I'm trying to make... It's not about post count. It's about transferring what we can from here, so it still feels like a continuation, not a reboot. I don't care if we all started back at zero for everything...if it was a new forum. But it's not, it's still The Bell Tree. It's not TBT2 or anything like that. I guess I might feel that way because I'm a little disappointed that it couldn't have waited until the transfer of data from ZetaBoards was possible. Still, it doesn't seem like the staff even cares about making it a continuation, and that bothers me.
What besides post count is there to provide "continuation"? Re-filling in your profile and setting your signature and avatar take 5 minutes, tops. I think the staff are doing whatever is possible to make it feel like a "continuation" (whatever that really means), even if there isn't much to do.

Edit - I guess what I'm saying is is that this concept of "continuation" you keep bringing up doesn't seem to be anything besides retaining your post count.
 
*trevor said:
Tyeforce said:
Sporge27 said:
Tyeforce said:
Dunno if this has been asked yet or not, but would there be any possibility of doing something like NSider2 did with transferring post counts? I don't think it's very fair for a lot of us veteran members to be forced to start from scratch. Losing our posts and threads is one thing (as long as they'll still be archived here at ZetaBoards), but making us start completely from scratch like any other newcomer just isn't right. And, no, post count isn't everything, I know that. But it's going to make everyone look like newbies, no matter how much they've contributed to the community in the past.

It's too bad the move couldn't have waited until Andrew finished his forum software, which he would have made sure would be able to transfer all data from ZetaBoards. Oh, well. I like the new theme, at least.
Tell you what, if you are still sore about it after the move, you can add this into your sig

"My other account had #### posts!"

Then everyone will still know!
No, that's not the point I'm trying to make... It's not about post count. It's about transferring what we can from here, so it still feels like a continuation, not a reboot. I don't care if we all started back at zero for everything...if it was a new forum. But it's not, it's still The Bell Tree. It's not TBT2 or anything like that. I guess I might feel that way because I'm a little disappointed that it couldn't have waited until the transfer of data from ZetaBoards was possible. Still, it doesn't seem like the staff even cares about making it a continuation, and that bothers me.
What besides post count is there to provide "continuation"? Re-filling in your profile and setting your signature and avatar take 5 minutes, tops. I think the staff are doing whatever is possible to make it feel like a "continuation" (whatever that really means), even if there isn't much to do.

Edit - I guess what I'm saying is is that this concept of "continuation" you keep bringing up doesn't seem to be anything besides retaining your post count.
I think Tye just likes this: http://forums.the-bell-tree.com/members/?topten

The thing is, also. This will always be here to show you what you've done. Also, Jeremy explained to me before the announcement that you can be #1 on the list as well because EVERYONE would be starting at zero.
 
Bacon Boy said:
Bulerias said:
I also don't see why NSider2 is suddenly the benchmark for a well-run forum. That place is a disaster.
It is very much. That's why I left.
The only thing similar between these two forums is that they will both be on vBulliten.

@Tye: NSider2 was never on Zetaboards. Were we going from Zeta to Invision (which would not make any sense), we would retain the data. However, since zetaboards and vBul are two completely different systems, they are not compatible. It would be like trying to play a wii game on a PS3 without the.
Actually NSider2 is IPB.

And actually you can't convert a ZB forum to IPB either.

Maybe you are confusing IPB and InvisionFree (which uses a really old version of IPB). lol
 
Jeremy said:
Bacon Boy said:
Bulerias said:
I also don't see why NSider2 is suddenly the benchmark for a well-run forum. That place is a disaster.
It is very much. That's why I left.
The only thing similar between these two forums is that they will both be on vBulliten.

@Tye: NSider2 was never on Zetaboards. Were we going from Zeta to Invision (which would not make any sense), we would retain the data. However, since zetaboards and vBul are two completely different systems, they are not compatible. It would be like trying to play a wii game on a PS3 without the.
Actually NSider2 is IPB.

And actually you can't convert a ZB forum to IPB either.

Maybe you are confusing IPB and InvisionFree (which uses a really old version of IPB). lol
I think it's Invision that was run/is run on a similar system to zetaboards. When you go to the admin cp (which doesn't exist, btw ^^;) on an InvisionFree board, I know you have the option to convert to a zetaboards.
 
IPB and vB are the two big professional forum software. InvisionFree uses an old version of IPB (it's like eight years old) and allows users to get it for free. ZetaBoards was based off of InvisionFree and it's by the same people.
 
Yes! I can finaly change my name to _Capri-Tom_ YES. Also it's gonna be weired seeing people such as Bacon Boy and Jeramy have 56 posts xD It's gonna be so weird!
 
Jeremy said:
Tyeforce said:
Sporge27 said:
Tyeforce said:
Dunno if this has been asked yet or not, but would there be any possibility of doing something like NSider2 did with transferring post counts? I don't think it's very fair for a lot of us veteran members to be forced to start from scratch. Losing our posts and threads is one thing (as long as they'll still be archived here at ZetaBoards), but making us start completely from scratch like any other newcomer just isn't right. And, no, post count isn't everything, I know that. But it's going to make everyone look like newbies, no matter how much they've contributed to the community in the past.

It's too bad the move couldn't have waited until Andrew finished his forum software, which he would have made sure would be able to transfer all data from ZetaBoards. Oh, well. I like the new theme, at least.
Tell you what, if you are still sore about it after the move, you can add this into your sig

"My other account had #### posts!"

Then everyone will still know!
No, that's not the point I'm trying to make... It's not about post count. It's about transferring what we can from here, so it still feels like a continuation, not a reboot. I don't care if we all started back at zero for everything...if it was a new forum. But it's not, it's still The Bell Tree. It's not TBT2 or anything like that. I guess I might feel that way because I'm a little disappointed that it couldn't have waited until the transfer of data from ZetaBoards was possible. Still, it doesn't seem like the staff even cares about making it a continuation, and that bothers me.
ZetaBoards doesn't give out their data for any transfer, so I don't see how transferring is possible with any software.
Andrew knows a way that he could pull the data from their database.
 
TommySnow said:
Yes! I can finaly change my name to _Capri-Tom_ YES. Also it's gonna be weired seeing people such as Bacon Boy and Jeramy have 56 posts xD It's gonna be so weird!
I can also imagine people who have low post now try to spam their way up the top. The good thing about vB is that you know have a post time limit.
 
Bacon Boy said:
Bulerias said:
I also don't see why NSider2 is suddenly the benchmark for a well-run forum. That place is a disaster.
It is very much. That's why I left.
The only thing similar between these two forums is that they will both be on vBulliten.

@Tye: NSider2 was never on Zetaboards. Were we going from Zeta to Invision (which would not make any sense), we would retain the data. However, since zetaboards and vBul are two completely different systems, they are not compatible. It would be like trying to play a wii game on a PS3 without the.
I'm not claiming that NSider2 is a well run forum, lol. But it was created with the intent of continuing where the original NSider left off.

And NSider and NSider 2 may have never been on Zetaboards, yes, but the situation is still the same. The data couldn't be transferred from NSider to NSider2 because, well, they were completely different forums run by different groups. NSider was an official Nintendo forum, and when that was closed the fans came together to try and recreate it. Of course, they had to start from scratch, but that didn't stop them from manually transferring over what they could.
 
Heh heh. Anyways, months later after vB is built, the topic would be saying, "Were you a noob back then in vB?" And everyone would basically say no. 'Cept for some people. :p
 
Josh. said:
TommySnow said:
Yes! I can finaly change my name to _Capri-Tom_ YES. Also it's gonna be weired seeing people such as Bacon Boy and Jeramy have 56 posts xD It's gonna be so weird!
I can also imagine people who have low post now try to spam their way up the top. The good thing about vB is that you know have a post time limit.
I know :) I never SPAM! Also can there be like a 3 word limit on the posts because alot of people just post on some thread. Yeah...... Its soo annoying. Also could you TRY to monitor some threads because when you ask a question like ''I want to buy gold roses'' people answer by '' Oh I used to have them but nnot know...'' How annoying it is >.>
 
TommySnow said:
Josh. said:
TommySnow said:
Yes! I can finaly change my name to _Capri-Tom_ YES. Also it's gonna be weired seeing people such as Bacon Boy and Jeramy have 56 posts xD It's gonna be so weird!
I can also imagine people who have low post now try to spam their way up the top. The good thing about vB is that you know have a post time limit.
I know :) I never SPAM! Also can there be like a 3 word limit on the posts because alot of people just post on some thread. Yeah...... Its soo annoying. Also could you TRY to monitor some threads because when you ask a question like ''I want to buy gold roses'' people answer by '' Oh I used to have them but nnot know...'' How annoying it is >.>
One, Word.
Davidk
 
Bacon Boy said:
*trevor said:
Tyeforce said:
Sporge27 said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
No, that's not the point I'm trying to make... It's not about post count. It's about transferring what we can from here, so it still feels like a continuation, not a reboot. I don't care if we all started back at zero for everything...if it was a new forum. But it's not, it's still The Bell Tree. It's not TBT2 or anything like that. I guess I might feel that way because I'm a little disappointed that it couldn't have waited until the transfer of data from ZetaBoards was possible. Still, it doesn't seem like the staff even cares about making it a continuation, and that bothers me.
What besides post count is there to provide "continuation"? Re-filling in your profile and setting your signature and avatar take 5 minutes, tops. I think the staff are doing whatever is possible to make it feel like a "continuation" (whatever that really means), even if there isn't much to do.

Edit - I guess what I'm saying is is that this concept of "continuation" you keep bringing up doesn't seem to be anything besides retaining your post count.
I think Tye just likes this: http://forums.the-bell-tree.com/members/?topten

The thing is, also. This will always be here to show you what you've done. Also, Jeremy explained to me before the announcement that you can be #1 on the list as well because EVERYONE would be starting at zero.
I had completely about the top ten. Hell, I figured that I would have been knocked off by now since I've been so inactive. Anyway, that doesn't matter to me. It's the sense of continuation that does. And transferring post count, rank, and/or join date are a few things that can help retain that. Starting over with a clean slate does have its advantages, but a completely clean slate also has its disadvantages. I'm not gonna continue to sit here and argue with you all, though, 'cause it seems that no matter what I say you still won't understand. Whatever happens happens, but it would be nice to see some things carried over.
 
Josh. said:
TommySnow said:
Josh. said:
TommySnow said:
Yes! I can finaly change my name to _Capri-Tom_ YES. Also it's gonna be weired seeing people such as Bacon Boy and Jeramy have 56 posts xD It's gonna be so weird!
I can also imagine people who have low post now try to spam their way up the top. The good thing about vB is that you know have a post time limit.
I know :) I never SPAM! Also can there be like a 3 word limit on the posts because alot of people just post on some thread. Yeah...... Its soo annoying. Also could you TRY to monitor some threads because when you ask a question like ''I want to buy gold roses'' people answer by '' Oh I used to have them but nnot know...'' How annoying it is >.>
One, Word.
Davidk
You read my nmind o_O
 
Tyeforce said:
Jeremy said:
Tyeforce said:
Sporge27 said:
Quoting limited to 4 levels deep
No, that's not the point I'm trying to make... It's not about post count. It's about transferring what we can from here, so it still feels like a continuation, not a reboot. I don't care if we all started back at zero for everything...if it was a new forum. But it's not, it's still The Bell Tree. It's not TBT2 or anything like that. I guess I might feel that way because I'm a little disappointed that it couldn't have waited until the transfer of data from ZetaBoards was possible. Still, it doesn't seem like the staff even cares about making it a continuation, and that bothers me.
ZetaBoards doesn't give out their data for any transfer, so I don't see how transferring is possible with any software.
Andrew knows a way that he could pull the data from their database.
Looks like this whole argument is turning into an advertisement for his boyfriend's 'software'.
 
OMG CAN'T WAIT! Too bad we lose all our posts :( Lol oh well... PREPARE FOR TEH BEH TEH GEN 2 (I think...)
 
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