We Need More Mods to Combat Spam Threads.

It really shouldn't be that serious because this isn't a real serious forum, the mods are not payed to do this so it's not like they should be expected to meet some extremely high standard, and no one is paying to use this site so if people hate the mods, they can just take a hike. For a forum like this, if a mod sees an idiot posting, it absolutely should be click, boom, done. It doesn't need to be a really tough job.

This is absolutely the dumbest post I've seen in this thread. You're trying to be funny right? Being on the staff for anything is serious. Yeah they can have fun, but you're expected to help a lot of ungrateful users with typically no thank you in return. You're expected to clean up ****posts, porn threads, ban bots, discipline bad apples, be a referee because he said she said, and ensure this is a safe environment for all ages given the forum's theme. It's not just click select ban justin and anyone who thinks that is a bloomin idjit.
 
It really shouldn't be that serious because this isn't a real serious forum, the mods are not payed to do this so it's not like they should be expected to meet some extremely high standard, and no one is paying to use this site so if people hate the mods, they can just take a hike. For a forum like this, if a mod sees an idiot posting, it absolutely should be click, boom, done. It doesn't need to be a really tough job.

Well my question is, where have you seen a forum where the mods are actually paid? Not trying to be rude or anything, cause I've actually never seen a forum like that before. Also, they can't just autoban people for saying something stupid. There are actually rules the forum itself has to follow or the staff can get in trouble for it.
 
Well my question is, where have you seen a forum where the mods are actually paid? Not trying to be rude or anything, cause I've actually never seen a forum like that before. Also, they can't just autoban people for saying something stupid. There are actually rules the forum itself has to follow or the staff can get in trouble for it.

Reddit?

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wait no nevermind they aren't paid
 
I don't think this site makes nearly enough to pay mods considering they recently turned on ads for members, plus someone people (myself included) use adblock so they don't make money from the people with adblockers
 
I don't think this site makes nearly enough to pay mods considering they recently turned on ads for members, plus someone people (myself included) use adblock so they don't make money from the people with adblockers

ooh you use adblock? I have the Doge adblocker on rn, it turns ads into doge memes
 
This is absolutely the dumbest post I've seen in this thread. You're trying to be funny right? Being on the staff for anything is serious. Yeah they can have fun, but you're expected to help a lot of ungrateful users with typically no thank you in return. You're expected to clean up ****posts, porn threads, ban bots, discipline bad apples, be a referee because he said she said, and ensure this is a safe environment for all ages given the forum's theme. It's not just click select ban justin and anyone who thinks that is a bloomin idjit.

Most people on this site can identify spam and porn threads. These are very obvious. Being a referee and trying to judge whether a post is offensive or not is a different matter. TBT mods are not professionals. They just do it on a volunteer basis. So you can't expect them to have perfect judgement.

For a moment imagine two extremes. On one hand, TBT could have few moderators like is has now and those moderators only have the power to delete posts and ban for spam, graphic posts, and promotion of illegal activities. However, they do not have the power to delete or discipline for any name-calling or abusive posts. This would maximize freedom of speech, but would result in a lot of people getting offended.

Now imagine on the other end, any user could delete any post for any reason. All of the spam, graphic, abusive, and offensive posts would disappear very quickly, but so would many legitimate posts. All of the s*** posts would be gone quickly, but people would complain about how their freedom of speech is being restricted (not that it really applies here).

Obviously both extremes are stupid, but you have to draw the line somewhere. More mods = less bad posts and less freedom of speech. Less mods = more bad posts and more freedom of speech. It's a trade-off and different people have different opinions, so there will never be a perfect balance. I used to be on a site with heavy moderation and some of the mods were on a power trip and would have a quick trigger finger when it came to infracting and banning people. I stopped visiting that site for that reason. I like the laid-back nature of this forum and I don't want there to be more mods just for the sake of having more, because that's how you get bad mods.

There are actually rules the forum itself has to follow or the staff can get in trouble for it.
They get in trouble how? They lose their unpaid volunteer position with absolutely no incentives? And who makes that decision? Another unpaid staff member? And who would replace a bad moderator? There are not a ton of qualified people lining up to do this. Honestly we shouldn't expect to get more from the mods than what we pay for (they are actually better than that thank god). A mod has to A) be mature and have good judgement and B) be able to make the time commitment to a volunteer position. Usually people who have A don't have B and people who have B don't have A. So if you want more mods, then understand that you'll have to compromise on A and just hope that the inmates aren't running the asylum.

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I guess the main takeaway from this thread is that the moderators here are hesitant to add more of them because this thread itself has clearly shown that not very many people on this site are capable of being effective moderators including me. They can try to train people, but there is only so much they can do to polish a turd (metaphorically speaking).
 
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It wouldn't hurt to open applications? You don't have to 'hire' someone, but if you happen to find someone suitable, then theres that option to add a new mod.
 
You truly are a village idiot and a real gem to this forum Red Cat. Not many members could make the same amount of logic stretches as you did.

MUH FREEDOMS = Less Mods and Anarchy

1984 = More Mods and Order

WOW 10/10 logic. The forum you came from most likely had bad staff or you're heavily exaggerating.

Most of the mods have training and are more than likely shadowed by veteran mod. They follow the rules and enforce them, more mods doesn't mean less freedoms.
 
freedom of speech doesn't mean the ability to say anything with no consequences

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also, unless its something illegal or inappropriate for young children, I've never really seen staff delete posts anyways

so the argument is pretty invalid just because of that. you can still say whatever, but have to be held accountable for it too
 
You truly are a village idiot and a real gem to this forum Red Cat. Not many members could make the same amount of logic stretches as you did.

MUH FREEDOMS = Less Mods and Anarchy

1984 = More Mods and Order

WOW 10/10 logic. The forum you came from most likely had bad staff or you're heavily exaggerating.

Most of the mods have training and are more than likely shadowed by veteran mod. They follow the rules and enforce them, more mods doesn't mean less freedoms.

there is so much i could say tbh

freedom of speech doesn't mean the ability to say anything with no consequences

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also, unless its something illegal or inappropriate for young children, I've never really seen staff delete posts anyways

so the argument is pretty invalid just because of that. you can still say whatever, but have to be held accountable for it too


they delete my spam all the time
 
...is this thread still going?
Half of what people are saying has been said on here before.
I get it, debates are good, but you're stretching it a little
 
The main issue I see is that whenever there is a troll/stupid/pointless thread, instead of saying nothing and just reporting it, people choose to post, whether it be a sad attempt at being funny or to tell the person off. That's... not a member's job, it's a mod's. If more people used the report button, it would be easier to lose the spammy/attention seeking threads. Nothing is more satisfying than seeing people replying back to your crappy thread so no wonder people post spammy threads. They know they'll get a reaction out of at least seven members.
 
freedom of speech doesn't mean the ability to say anything with no consequences

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also, unless its something illegal or inappropriate for young children, I've never really seen staff delete posts anyways

so the argument is pretty invalid just because of that. you can still say whatever, but have to be held accountable for it too

This
Your freedom of speech is "valid" until it interferes with other's freedom. It's a very complex process that I'm not gonna bother explaining but basically it makes your point invalid
 
The main issue I see is that whenever there is a troll/stupid/pointless thread, instead of saying nothing and just reporting it, people choose to post, whether it be a sad attempt at being funny or to tell the person off. That's... not a member's job, it's a mod's. If more people used the report button, it would be easier to lose the spammy/attention seeking threads. Nothing is more satisfying than seeing people replying back to your crappy thread so no wonder people post spammy threads. They know they'll get a reaction out of at least seven members.
You should know that not all of us do that. We tend to sigh, report the thread and move on.

Sad to see a vast majority of people don't do the same. Instead they actually enjoy these threads and add more fuel to the fire.
 
You should know that not all of us do that. We tend to sigh, report the thread and move on.

Sad to see a vast majority of people don't do the same. Instead they actually enjoy these threads and add more fuel to the fire.

Of course not everyone does it but enough do that it feeds the 'fire.' It gets worse when people tell people to ignore the thread. I get the meaning behind doing that but it actually makes the situation worse.
 
I honestly don't see much spam on here. I've been reported for spam though..when I wasn't even spamming. -.- I also got a warning for posting a thread that the warning claimed I'd posted already in the last 5 minutes, which I did not. I honestly don't even get all the rules around here. Maybe make it less, more important rules for those of us who can't remember so much and let the community run itself. If it begins collapsing, bring in a few more mods. Try things both ways, potentially make everyone happy and discover the best solution. I agree that some people do need to have say over others but they also need to be smart about it and think about what they're reporting for before reporting someone.
 
I honestly don't see much spam on here. I've been reported for spam though..when I wasn't even spamming. -.- I also got a warning for posting a thread that the warning claimed I'd posted already in the last 5 minutes, which I did not.

There are no warnings or infractions on your account. Perfectly clean record.
 
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