The post was very ambiguous. This thread just tells me who is very political. That's all.
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Who do you want for president?
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The post was very ambiguous. This thread just tells me who is very political. That's all.
L. Lawliet
Senior Member
oh well in that case you good homie. nice avatar btw
>using /pol/ as a source
wow, way to ruin literally all credibility you could possibly have
wow, way to ruin literally all credibility you could possibly have
FINALLY, MY CHANCE TO LET IT ALL OUT!
It's no secret that Trump sucks. He's unfit to be president and basically only qualifies at the bare minimum. The fact that Hillary's email scandal - which she's been cleared of TWICE - is more important than a rape case is just beyond me. Now I'm not saying I like Hillary. In fact, I voted to bring Bernie back above. My man. He cared. He cared about my people. And that's really what I'm stuck on with this election.
Both Trump and Hillary support Energy Transfer Partners LP, whose subsidiary is Dakota Access LLC. For those who don't know about what's going on in North Dakota, basically ETP wants to run the Dakota Access Pipeline through tribal lands. (AKA Native American land.) What's important to realize here is that our lands are considered sovereign. (It's basically like being international.) And the land they're going through is part of land given by the U.S. government in a treaty. Sacred sites, including burial sites, have been destroyed so the piping can be laid. The path that crosses our land is the second pitched path - the first went through a city/town that was 97% white. Additionally, this pipeline puts the Missouri River at risk for contamination. This river is the Oceti Sakowin's main water source, and a source of water for millions of Americans.
For months now Natives from tribes all over have gone to ND to set up camp, some setting up permanent housing, to protect the land and the water. In these months there have been attack dogs released on peaceful crowds by private security, police shooting at women and children with bean bags, rubber bullets, concussion grenades; macing people who are nonviolent, tasering them. One taser barb was pulled out of someone's cheek. A reporter was shot while in the middle of filming an interview. Sacred items were rounded up and desecrated before being taken back in dump trucks. Hundreds of people have been arrested, simply for standing strong. Women were stripped naked, numbers written on their arms, and left in dog kennels overnight. The list of offenses done by the police and military goes on. All of this has been brought to the attention of each presidential candidate and neither Hillary or Trump has said a word about it.
HOW? How can the future president stand by and watch something like this happen and not do a thing about it? Not say a word? This brings me back to the word support. Hillary's support is inadvertent, she's supporting all the big banks that support DAPL. Trump also supports the pipeline, but directly. He supports ETP, and they donated $100k to his campaign. Both presidential candidates care about money more than they care about my people, and LAW. So many laws have been broken by Dakota Access and yet it's radio silence from the two of them. (And HELLO, breaking a treaty is HUGE... YUGE lol) A group of Native youth went to Hillary's campaign office and set up a tipi in the lobby before starting a drum and dance circle. It was beautiful and moving, and when a young girl - just 14 years old - took a letter to the main desk, no one acknowledged her or came down to get the letter. Eventually Hillary's team released a statement, but it was one that sidestepped the entire thing and basically said it was okay for the pipeline to exist where it will.
To both of these people, we are disposable.
But Trump is definitely the bigger threat. He has no care for tribal sovereignty in the case of DAPL and the wall he wants to build between us and Mexico will also be blocking through some tribal land. (I'm going to guess that he'll say too bad and try to build the wall through our lands anyways.) And it's just so irritating because for hundreds of years white people have been taking from my people or being complacent in acts of genocide. In 2016 I don't think we should have a president that's okay to watch something like that going on and not step in.
And there's also the fact that Trump is so buddy buddy with Putin, inviting him to hack into government emails just so he can bash Hillary. Do we REALLY want a president who is willing to let something like that, which could be used against us in negative ways, happen? Putin needs to mind his own business, yes, but Trump doesn't know how to close the door and say "You can't come in" unless it's to people of color.
Two train-wrecks and no chance at third party (bb Jill is ace imo) getting into office. It's really sad to think that in the near future we can be back where we were before Obama got into office (high unemployment, recession approaching a second great depression, etc.) or having WWIII. I'm scared, honestly. But I think I would be less scared with Hillary around because at least then I wouldn't have to worry about abortions being illegal and sexual assault being normalized. And she wants patients like me who are under pain management to be able to get our medications so hey, I'm all for her if we really have to decide between the lesser of two evils.
It's no secret that Trump sucks. He's unfit to be president and basically only qualifies at the bare minimum. The fact that Hillary's email scandal - which she's been cleared of TWICE - is more important than a rape case is just beyond me. Now I'm not saying I like Hillary. In fact, I voted to bring Bernie back above. My man. He cared. He cared about my people. And that's really what I'm stuck on with this election.
Both Trump and Hillary support Energy Transfer Partners LP, whose subsidiary is Dakota Access LLC. For those who don't know about what's going on in North Dakota, basically ETP wants to run the Dakota Access Pipeline through tribal lands. (AKA Native American land.) What's important to realize here is that our lands are considered sovereign. (It's basically like being international.) And the land they're going through is part of land given by the U.S. government in a treaty. Sacred sites, including burial sites, have been destroyed so the piping can be laid. The path that crosses our land is the second pitched path - the first went through a city/town that was 97% white. Additionally, this pipeline puts the Missouri River at risk for contamination. This river is the Oceti Sakowin's main water source, and a source of water for millions of Americans.
For months now Natives from tribes all over have gone to ND to set up camp, some setting up permanent housing, to protect the land and the water. In these months there have been attack dogs released on peaceful crowds by private security, police shooting at women and children with bean bags, rubber bullets, concussion grenades; macing people who are nonviolent, tasering them. One taser barb was pulled out of someone's cheek. A reporter was shot while in the middle of filming an interview. Sacred items were rounded up and desecrated before being taken back in dump trucks. Hundreds of people have been arrested, simply for standing strong. Women were stripped naked, numbers written on their arms, and left in dog kennels overnight. The list of offenses done by the police and military goes on. All of this has been brought to the attention of each presidential candidate and neither Hillary or Trump has said a word about it.
HOW? How can the future president stand by and watch something like this happen and not do a thing about it? Not say a word? This brings me back to the word support. Hillary's support is inadvertent, she's supporting all the big banks that support DAPL. Trump also supports the pipeline, but directly. He supports ETP, and they donated $100k to his campaign. Both presidential candidates care about money more than they care about my people, and LAW. So many laws have been broken by Dakota Access and yet it's radio silence from the two of them. (And HELLO, breaking a treaty is HUGE... YUGE lol) A group of Native youth went to Hillary's campaign office and set up a tipi in the lobby before starting a drum and dance circle. It was beautiful and moving, and when a young girl - just 14 years old - took a letter to the main desk, no one acknowledged her or came down to get the letter. Eventually Hillary's team released a statement, but it was one that sidestepped the entire thing and basically said it was okay for the pipeline to exist where it will.
To both of these people, we are disposable.
But Trump is definitely the bigger threat. He has no care for tribal sovereignty in the case of DAPL and the wall he wants to build between us and Mexico will also be blocking through some tribal land. (I'm going to guess that he'll say too bad and try to build the wall through our lands anyways.) And it's just so irritating because for hundreds of years white people have been taking from my people or being complacent in acts of genocide. In 2016 I don't think we should have a president that's okay to watch something like that going on and not step in.
And there's also the fact that Trump is so buddy buddy with Putin, inviting him to hack into government emails just so he can bash Hillary. Do we REALLY want a president who is willing to let something like that, which could be used against us in negative ways, happen? Putin needs to mind his own business, yes, but Trump doesn't know how to close the door and say "You can't come in" unless it's to people of color.
Two train-wrecks and no chance at third party (bb Jill is ace imo) getting into office. It's really sad to think that in the near future we can be back where we were before Obama got into office (high unemployment, recession approaching a second great depression, etc.) or having WWIII. I'm scared, honestly. But I think I would be less scared with Hillary around because at least then I wouldn't have to worry about abortions being illegal and sexual assault being normalized. And she wants patients like me who are under pain management to be able to get our medications so hey, I'm all for her if we really have to decide between the lesser of two evils.
L. Lawliet
Senior Member
Fam, they are the middle man. Hillary Clinton's email server is the source. Pol just organized it in a way that makes it easy to see
a middle man would be neutral
/pol/ is anything but
/pol/ is anything but
L. Lawliet
Senior Member
Middle men aren't neutral. They exist to transfer info from one place to another. It's how drugs are spread around
oh, so you're saying they are unreliable then
thanks
thanks
L. Lawliet
Senior Member
No. I am saying they transport information and make it accessible in an organized format
they also cherry pick based on their own preferences, hence unreliable
EpicGamer12
Senior Member
Finding evidence to support their own argument does not make anyone unreliable. In terms of the emails, you aren't seeing many if any that are supporting Hillary because that is simply the nature of the emails.
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Yes, this. That /pol/ link is legitimately just a middleman in this situation. There aren't any pro-Hillary e-mails because there ARE no pro-Hillary e-mails lol
I don't care, I can't wait for it to be over.
I respect people who support Trump. I respect people who support Hillary. Stop using the election as an excuse to act like uncivilized animals and treating others like **** because they don't like the same candidate that you do.
United we stand, divided we fall.
I respect people who support Trump. I respect people who support Hillary. Stop using the election as an excuse to act like uncivilized animals and treating others like **** because they don't like the same candidate that you do.
United we stand, divided we fall.
I never said anything about pro-hillary emails
but start showing me the /pol/ threads where they start organizing posts regarding trump's vile history and such. because I'd be legit amazed if their beacon pedestal of toxic commendation was consistently torn down in even close to the same manner
EpicGamer12
Senior Member
Just because a source is is biased towards a candidate does not make the information they've gathered for that candidate untrue. There are no biases in cold, hard facts. There can be biases in their opinions BASED on the facts.
Stalfos
Topsoilers!
If Trump wins, we'll get Donald Trump vs Kanye West in 2020. *shivers*
if trump wins, I'll be amazed if we get a 2020
but yeah, I certainly expect hillary to lose the next term currently. provided she manages to get this one
but yeah, I certainly expect hillary to lose the next term currently. provided she manages to get this one
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Makes me realize how easy 2020 over here is gonna be
Neither candidate is gonna get a second term. Putting aside Kanye West who wants to be president in 2020 (thats just too unlikely even with all the stuff this year) the other candidate will wilsimply because they are almost guaranteed to be better than Hillary/Trump. Maybe if trump wins we can get an epic Sanders Vs Trump battle (Sanders is best candidate)
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