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Who do you want for president?

Who do you want for president?


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This, I'm confused. Say you meet someone and you're getting along great then all of a sudden they say something like "I support Trump over Hillary." Is that like a total, instant hatred and disassociation, even though you probably won't even be talking to them about politics that much?

Well, it isn't just about political views though. To a lot of people, a vote for Trump represents an indifference to discrimination against women and minorities. I don't care if my friends are conservative, but if they don't care about other people as human beings then that would rub me the wrong way.
 
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Well, it isn't just about political views though. To a lot of people, a vote for Trump represents an indifference to discrimination against women and minorities. I don't care if my friends are conservative, but if they don't care about other people as human beings then that would rub me the wrong way.

yeah, that's basically it.

in probably any other situation I'd disagree but be fine with, but certainly not here
 
I said get disowned, not disown them

also, yes. which would mean I would basically get them completely out of my life, stop thinking about them, and be done with it
So, you would hate your own parents or a family member, for a political difference. So they loved you, raised you, and cared for you. But you would instantly hate them for a political difference.


This, I'm confused. Say you meet someone and you're getting along great then all of a sudden they say something like "I support Trump over Hillary." Is that like a total, instant hatred and disassociation, even though you probably won't even be talking to them about politics that much?

Exactly my point. I have some very dear friends and family who do support Trump. They don't 100% agree with his rhetoric but they think Trump>Clinton. I could not bring myself to hate them let alone disassociate myself from them.


Trust me, I get it. Trump's rhetoric is extremely dangerous, racist, xenophobic, homophobic and a whole bunch of other isms and phobics. He shouldn't be president what so ever, but we shouldn't hate our fellow Americans
 
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She has done a lot of bad stuff
Her campaign took a 100 million dollar donation from Saudi Arabia, a country that still practices female genital mutilation and doesn't allow women to drive.
Her foundation raised money for the Haiti earthquake in 2010, yet Haiti only saw 5% of the raised money. That means the foundation still has it.
Then there is Benghazi, where 4 Americans were killed in a libyan uprising because Hillary Clinton ignored all 300 calls for help.
While secretary of defense, she allowed iran to have a self governing board on nuclear weapons. This is bad, as iran is not fond of the US.
As Secretary of defense, she sold 20% of US uranium to russia.
Sources in a minute, am posting from mobile

Pardon the first link. it was Qatar, not SA. Same laws though.
https://www.rt.com/usa/365442-clinton-foundation-qatar-emails/
Haiti
http://nlpc.org/2016/11/05/happened-20-million-clinton-haiti-fund/
Benghazi
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Benghazi_attack
Iran
http://www.cnn.com/2016/10/17/opinions/iran-nuclear-deal-disaster-rubio/
Russia Uranium(this source was the most non biased i could find)
http://www.inquisitr.com/3619006/do...linton-helped-russia-take-over-uranium-mines/
 
So, you would hate your own parents or a family, for a political difference. So they loved you, raised you, and cared for you. But you would instantly hate them for a political difference.

when that difference is based in extreme hatred, yeah I'd want nothing to do with them

I quite frankly don't care about the love and care I personally get, apply that to other people instead
 
but we shouldn't hate our fellow Americans

This 100%. We are the United States of America but I'm not seeing that. I am on Trump's side, and a majority of my friends are on Hillary's side, but I don't hate them simply because that doesn't get anyone anywhere. In times like these, we needs less hate and more cooperation.
 
when that difference is based in extreme hatred, yeah I'd want nothing to do with them

I quite frankly don't care about the love and care I personally get, apply that to other people instead
I'm going to restate something that I said earlier, Hate does NOT beat Hate. I'm sorry, but with your viewpoint, nothing will get accomplished at all. The hate that you have for Trump supporters wont make them hate any less or make them not hate, it will only breed more animosity.
This 100%. We are the United States of America but I'm not seeing that. I am on Trump's side, and a majority of my friends are on Hillary's side, but I don't hate them simply because that doesn't get anyone anywhere. In times like these, we needs less hate and more cooperation.
See, You and I might have extremely different political views, but we agree that we shouldn't hate our fellow citizen for their opinion.
 
I'm going to restate something that I said earlier, Hate does NOT beat Hate. I'm sorry, but with your viewpoint, nothing will get accomplished at all. The hate that you have for Trump supporters wont make them hate any less or make them not hate, it will only breed more animosity.

I mean most people wouldn't even know I utterly despise them, since I'd still treat them with a basic level of respect at least (or at most completely disengage with), and also not try to get any horrible **** to happen to them, so

not sure how some NOBODY posting online is going to accomplish that sort of breeding

and yeah, I never said it was going to make them hate less, nice as that'd be. so all I can do now is wait for hopefully the passage of time to bring about a greater majority of better people. through personal growth as well as just younger generations taking over dying older ones
 
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1. That is clearly a conservative website since all of the articles are negative articles about Clinton.
2. I didn't see anything in that article about Clinton ignoring 300 calls.
3. That's an editorial by Marco Rubio, so it's not really a journalistic source.
4. I've never heard of that website, but it has a tabloid look to it with the layout and featured articles.

If you're going to make claims and then back them up with "sources", at least use credible journalism instead of opinion pieces written by people who probably don't have much more information than you or I.
 
1. That is clearly a conservative website since all of the articles are negative articles about Clinton.
2. I didn't see anything in that article about Clinton ignoring 300 calls.
3. That's an editorial by Marco Rubio, so it's not really a journalistic source.
4. I've never heard of that website, but it has a tabloid look to it with the layout and featured articles.

If you're going to make claims and then back them up with "sources", at least use credible journalism instead of opinion pieces written by people who probably don't have much more information than you or I.

ill give more sources, gimme a sec.

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligence...ccepted-usd1-million-donation-from-qatar.html
http://www.globalresearch.ca/hurric...tole-from-its-earthquake-relief-funds/5550029

more in a minute

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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/17/benghazi-us-military-unprepared-to-aid-americans-d/
 
The most important thing in a family unit is compromise, otherwise you'll never get along with your family at all. With politics, it's very difficult. My parents have differing views to mine on many different subjects, most prominently in politics, and it's no different this time.

People will change the world, not politicians or presidents or prime ministers. They're just robots. No wall is gonna help anyone. People focus so much on the now, and wanting to make the present better, for mostly selfish reasons. The truth of the matter is that the generations to come will be the only ones to see a real positive change in the world. It's our job to curate it for a short while.

Build a wall and it'll just come down the same way the Berlin Wall did. Change takes place and humanity always wins. Old men in suits and ties with grey hair and bulging eyes will do nothing for the future. They'll just complain, change a few laws around about stuff nobody really cares about at all, and life will go on, with or without a wall, with or without a child-sex-ring-supporting president who changes her opinions on society as fast as she changes clothes.

And then ISIS will come along and blow us all up because those same grey-haired morons were let loose to decide how we were going to deal with them. And then new generations will come, and hopefully, in who knows how many years time, we will start again, and hopefully not mess it up this time.

The answer is to stop being so bloody selfish.
 
The most important thing in a family unit is compromise, otherwise you'll never get along with your family at all. With politics, it's very difficult. My parents have differing views to mine on many different subjects, most prominently in politics, and it's no different this time.

People will change the world, not politicians or presidents or prime ministers. They're just robots. No wall is gonna help anyone. People focus so much on the now, and wanting to make the present better, for mostly selfish reasons. The truth of the matter is that the generations to come will be the only ones to see a real positive change in the world. It's our job to curate it for a short while.

Build a wall and it'll just come down the same way the Berlin Wall did. Change takes place and humanity always wins. Old men in suits and ties with grey hair and bulging eyes will do nothing for the future. They'll just complain, change a few laws around about stuff nobody really cares about at all, and life will go on, with or without a wall, with or without a child-sex-ring-supporting president who changes her opinions on society as fast as she changes clothes.

And then ISIS will come along and blow us all up because those same grey-haired morons were let loose to decide how we were going to deal with them. And then new generations will come, and hopefully, in who knows how many years time, we will start again, and hopefully not mess it up this time.

The answer is to stop being so bloody selfish.

well put.
 
Sorry but I refuse to both accept or compromise with the racist, sexist, xenophobic president or his supporters. They are *******s.
 
Sorry but I refuse to both accept or compromise with the racist, sexist, xenophobic president or his supporters. They are *******s.

that is the kind of attitude that starts bipartisan messes like the one we are in.
wedo need compromise. Do i want to compromise with hillary clinton, as she has done some things i cannot forgive. However, if compromise is needed fo the wellbeing for the country, we should do it

George washington warned against this. these are the results
 
Today is the day gentlemen. Get your popcorn ready. The ****show of the century is about to start.
 
that is the kind of attitude that starts bipartisan messes like the one we are in.
wedo need compromise. Do i want to compromise with hillary clinton, as she has done some things i cannot forgive. However, if compromise is needed fo the wellbeing for the country, we should do it

George washington warned against this. these are the results

You think I should compromise with racists and sexists and xenophobes?

Your implication here is that you think those ideas have validity. I'm sorry, but if someone thinks that women should be subservient to men, they can **** right off. There is absolutely no compromising on equality.
 
You think I should compromise with racists and sexists and xenophobes?

Your implication here is that you think those ideas have validity. I'm sorry, but if someone thinks that women should be subservient to men, they can **** right off. There is absolutely no compromising on equality.

i dont believe they have validity. they aren't in trumps campaign plans. He wants to reform southern border security by building a wall and reforming immigration customs, as they are terrible( i live in AZ, the state worst affected by it). He wants to make the process not take 2 years to complete.

And as for the sexism comments, do you have any room to talk? clintons husband has several sexual assault cases still against him. trumps are dropping their allegations.
 
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