Mafia Wrath of the Egyptian Gods - Kingmaker (Game Thread) Endgame

[Jacob]

As if my one voice would be able to drag the lynch off him. It wouldve been much easier to do that if Jacob didnt lynch so early and without warning

It's been clear that Tom was my lynch candidate since around 11pm est on Thursday night, I didn't vote however because I wanted people to have time to try and sway if they had any words or town-tells that I missed

So 1) Your one voice (with the right evidence, I guess) absolutely could have been able to drag the vote off tom onto your and my other scum lean.
2) I didn't lynch early, I gave 19 hours notice and warning.

 

[SensaiGallade]

It's been clear that Tom was my lynch candidate since around 11pm est on Thursday night, I didn't vote however because I wanted people to have time to try and sway if they had any words or town-tells that I missed

So 1) Your one voice (with the right evidence, I guess) absolutely could have been able to drag the vote off tom onto your and my other scum lean.
2) I didn't lynch early, I gave 19 hours notice and warning.

1) How can you expect me to prove Tom's innocence when all I have to work with is his posts and the quality of them? I already stated several times that Tom's contributions in N1 and early D2 is what swayed me into changing my views on him, despite him heavily scumreading me. Tom's condesending attitude before you lynched him was a clear indication that he was not mafia. I thought people would be able to pick up on that but clearly not.

2) When I say you lynched early, I was meaning several hours before EoD2. I wasn't expecting you to lynch 4-5 hours early than what Dolby did.

 

[Jacob]

1) How can you expect me to prove Tom's innocence when all I have to work with is his posts and the quality of them? I already stated several times that Tom's contributions in N1 and early D2 is what swayed me into changing my views on him, despite him heavily scumreading me. Tom's condesending attitude before you lynched him was a clear indication that he was not mafia. I thought people would be able to pick up on that but clearly not.

2) When I say you lynched early, I was meaning several hours before EoD2. I wasn't expecting you to lynch 4-5 hours early than what Dolby did.

1) That was exactly my point, you couldn't have proved anything with his posts and quality which is the reason he was up for lynch in the first place. You can easily fake a condescending attitude especially after we've already called him out for AtE in other posts, that was my thought process anyway.

2) I already did explain I wasn't going to be around multiple times. And frankly I hate waiting till 15 minutes before EoD to scramble and get confused.

 

[SensaiGallade]

1) That was exactly my point, you couldn't have proved anything with his posts and quality which is the reason he was up for lynch in the first place. You can easily fake a condescending attitude especially after we've already called him out for AtE in other posts, that was my thought process anyway.

2) I already did explain I wasn't going to be around multiple times. And frankly I hate waiting till 15 minutes before EoD to scramble and get confused.

That was your choice then and I respect that, but now look at the mess we're in. Unless there's SK which I highly doubt, we have no shot at night and are susceptable to being killed off easily by mafia.

I'm not holding grudges about what happened but I'm rather pissed at the unfolding of last night. I can't be the only one but all we can do now is wait for D3 to roll about and think carefully about the next lynch candidate.

 

[Jacob]

That was your choice then and I respect that, but now look at the mess we're in. Unless there's SK which I highly doubt, we have no shot at night and are susceptable to being killed off easily by mafia.

Hm ok interesting, then there must be three things to explain what happened N1 for you:

- Mafia KP would be 3, meaning 5 or 6 mafia members, that would explain the hit on Chick, Glow, and Heyden.
- Heyden is lying about being hit, mafia KP is only 2, with 3 or 4 mafia members.
- Tom is lying about not shooting.

Which one of these sounds most accurate to you?

 

[SensaiGallade]

Hm ok interesting, then there must be three things to explain what happened N1 for you:

- Mafia KP would be 3, meaning 5 or 6 mafia members, that would explain the hit on Chick, Glow, and Heyden.
- Heyden is lying about being hit, mafia KP is only 2, with 3 or 4 mafia members.
- Tom is lying about not shooting.

Which one of these sounds most accurate to you?

The most accurate is the second one. With a game this size, 4 mafia is most likely, similar to Tina's game. And since Tom never shot, Heyden is either lying or there is someone still alive with KP.

 

[unravel]

And if Heyden is lying which means he claimed the shot just to make him look innocent????

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There's one post that some people were bothering I'll go and look back their post

 

[Ryumia]

And what is your wincon may I ask? Don't copy paste just, a general idea of what you have to do.

My Win Condition? I would gladly tell you; however, I legitimately don't know how to do that at the moment. Been figuring that out, but I've been pretty stuck on it for a pretty long time... :X I want to say what it is, but I don't know how to go about it without breaking the rules of the game.

And to achieve the town win condition one needs to scum-hunt. And how they present the results of their scum-hunting is in reads lists.

And to achieve the scum win condition you need to fake the above.

I don't think that's necessarily true. Can you give me actual proof that what you're saying is true? If you can't do that then that mean that I don't have to do a reads list or scum-hunt because it isn't mandatory to do so.

 

[unravel]

Oh its here Tae pointed out smthing I gonna admit I find it a bit fishy: http://www.belltreeforums.com/showt...Game-Thread)&p=7679868&viewfull=1#post7679868

While scrolling dont have time to read it

Vanessa is Kingmaker mark my word!

What the actual **** dude

role block me, inspect me, kill me, tickle me, choke me, gag me, do whatever you like

Mhmmm ( ͡? ͜ʖ ͡?)

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Hell no I'm not lynching you, you're my best asset to reaching my win condition.

Also asking me who I'll lynch loooool not like I've been screaming all of D2.

ya'll pissed about me, you probably missed this... Heyden has some weird secret

and if you want help with your Win-con, then help me with mine

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Nvm i think its sarcasm idk

 

[Chris]

I don't think that's necessarily true. Can you give me actual proof that what you're saying is true? If you can't do that then that mean that I don't have to do a reads list or scum-hunt because it isn't mandatory to do so.

AGH.

The Town's win condition is achieved through killing all the mafia through voting during the day.

In order to achieve our win condition we need to FIND the mafia and LYNCH them. That is scum-hunting.

If you're going to blatantly refuse to play the game then why the hell did you join in the first place. Your play is anti-town and you're not even trying to help us win.

 

[cornimer]

Waffles yeah that Heyden post was super ???? but I mean I'm pretty sure he would not say that as maf. Maybe he just thinks toads is SK and will kill maf for him? (I mean iirc he definitely does think toads is SK)

 

[toadsworthy]

Why is Tina destroying the noobie?

 

[Chris]

Why is Tina destroying the noobie?

Because she is being stubborn and blatantly working against the town win condition.

Unless it's not her win condition.

 

[Ryumia]

AGH.

In order to achieve our win condition we need to FIND the mafia and LYNCH them. That is scum-hunting.

If you're going to blatantly refuse to play the game then why the hell did you join in the first place. Your play is anti-town and you're not even trying to help us win.

Um... Okay.. You didn't have to say it like that though... I'm doing the best I can here... :X

But... You didn't explain the question that I asked you. So... I would like you to explain that to me please. I'm being polite about this matter.

Okay. So... I got permission from N e s s to use this to clarify my win condition. Here goes nothing...

You guys know what Tom's win condition was right then I'll show you mine down below because I wanted to show you it. I have no reason to hide it at all. So... Look at it and memorize it. Okay?

Wincondition: Rid the town of all hostile non-town aligned players. You win once all threats to town have been eliminated.

So... um... I would like to be treated more nicely please. >.>

 

[Chris]

Aaaaand you're about to be modkilled. :x

 

[tae]

Because she is being stubborn and blatantly working against the town win condition.

Unless it's not her win condition.

from the sound of her confusion it’s sounds like her win con is in fact.. not town aligned.

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ninja’d and she’s MK’d.

 

[Chris]

from the sound of her confusion it’s sounds like her win con is in fact.. not town aligned.

She is unfortunately town-aligned. She just directly posted part of her role PM.

 

[tae]

She is unfortunately town-aligned. She just directly posted part of her role PM.

she said she got permission from ness tho. so like..??? does that mean she’s MK’d or is he letting it happen

 

[cornimer]

Dang.

 

[Ryumia]

Aaaaand you're about to be modkilled. :x

I'll show you that I asked then... :/

Well, I suppose one way of doing I think is to use the wincondition stated in the dead town players role PMs, since it's the same thing.

Really? Then since I can use that then can I use mine that you gave me to show them I am town? I'm really am trying here.. :X I feel bad because I really wanted to help my team.

I'll allow it.

I would like to be treated nicely here... >.> I'm genuinely asking here. You guys cause me so much emotional and physical pain. Do you know how hard it was for me to work alone this game? All I wanted was to help my team win and I was worried I would be the weakest link on my tea,. Don't make me feel worst than I already am here. I'm about to break here...