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[Chris]

Too bad literally nothing you just said adds up. Do you think Cory is mafia or third party?

Entropy also made a similar statement. Are you saying that if they were still alive, you would think they were scum as well? Ironically, I am not even defending Cory here but this is inconsistent. The reason being is that mafia has that same sentence in their Win Con, so EITHER WAY he would have noticed, regardless of alignment. Your only possible correct answer to my questions would be that you believe Cory IS the killing third party. Which the KP does not add up for, the only way this is possible is if he hit whoever was jailed. Which was likely Tom- and in what world would a SK ever hit Tom? And since Cory made a similar statement that Entropy did, it is not a slip in the slightest way. Skimming over your Win Con is entirely rudimentary, I won't deny you that. But I do deny your reasoning. In fact, would scum not be more likely to notice something like that in their Win Con than town?

Stop backtracking.

It does make sense and I'm not backtracking.

> Cory didn't know town's win con and made a statement that a town member would not make.
> He admitted he didn't read his PM, which means my deduction was correct in that a town member who was aware of their win con wouldn't have made a remark like that.
> I think his answer could be genuine, so in my head he dropped from red to orange - which is on par with Ashtot, Xerolin, and Caddberry.
> Ashtot is the person I now feel strongest about of the four, as my impression of Cory has changed throughout D2, so I voted for Ash.

Entropy had already died by the time I started reading yesterday, so I wasn't exactly analysing her posts. So would I think she's scum? I genuinely cannot answer that as I was reading her posts with the knowledge that she was town.

Yes, it was in scum's win con. Which is what he commented on - a scum player's PM. Town's win con hadn't been revealed at the time as no town members had died. That means if he were scum he wouldn't have known it was in our win con too. Same if third party. If scum/SK, he might have thought town was unaware of this.

There are more possibilities than what you have listed - doctor protect (town or mafia), veteran, role blocker (town or mafia) depending on how kills are dealt with in this game. Even so, we don't know if mafia & SK kills overlapped. Or heck an SK could have failed to even use their action. Or back in 1582 mafia, I even gave the scum team only one kill a night! The actual amount of killing power in the game is easier to determine after seeing the N2 kills. There is not one single correct answer to your question and honestly I don't know what I think of him right now. I always find Cory hard to read because I think he acts scummy every single game.

 

[tae]

noted, thank you. backing off now.



I actually do agree that entropy could've possibly jailed Tom... what I don't understand is why a SK wouldn't try and go after Tom?

i don't think i'd waste the jail on tom, esp after his roleclaim, what use would he be to town? esp if we can't even believe him?
also, why would an sk shoot someone people would be highly sus of? why would you kill someone that is the perfect distraction?

 

[Cory]

I didn't read the full pm because I saw my role and I assumed the win con was to eliminate all anti town factions.

 

[Kirbystarship]

I've hardly seem him post, only about 4 times, but I suppose

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And? You're still inactive to me, but most people are only saying that only I am....maybe I missed most of your helpful posts or something, not sure

I posted more than 4times maybe you are just skimming everything.

 

[tae]

I've hardly seem him post, only about 4 times, but I suppose

this is because you do not read the thread, my little friend.

Tardis2016 posts: 88
Nightmares posts: 37

please drop the argument on tardis, you're seriously acting like jacob now.

 

[Nightmares]

I posted more than 4times maybe you are just skimming everything.

Yup, I had a look back and found a couple pages where you were getting involved, and did some reads on people - my mistake!

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this is because you do not read the thread, my little friend.

Tardis2016 posts: 88
Nightmares posts: 37

please drop the argument on tardis, you're seriously acting like jacob now.

I did drop it?
Anyway, I wasn't arguing, I was just wondering....

 

[Chris]

I didn't read the full pm because I saw my role and I assumed the win con was to eliminate all anti town factions.

Which is exactly why I didn't feel a need to push it further. You gave me an answer I believe has a high chance of being genuine simply because it's, well, you (not meaning to be rude!).

 

[Cory]

Nah it's fine I understand. No hard feelings.

 

[Chrystina]

i don't think i'd waste the jail on tom, esp after his roleclaim, what use would he be to town? esp if we can't even believe him?
also, why would an sk shoot someone people would be highly sus of? why would you kill someone that is the perfect distraction?

He didn't claim until after entropy had been n1 killed though. i don't see the reason to protect him, but roleblock? definitely.
also correct me if I'm wrong, but nobody had been sus of Tom (except going by the voting thread - it was me and xero) until after night ended and entropy was night killed. i can see why SK would want to take out a strong player.

 

[tae]

He didn't claim until after entropy had been n1 killed though. i don't see the reason to protect him, but roleblock? definitely.
also correct me if I'm wrong, but nobody had been sus of Tom (except going by the voting thread - it was me and xero) until after night ended and entropy was night killed. i can see why SK would want to take out a strong player.

i think tom's role is passive / manipulative. i don't think he's got kp.

 

[tae]

can someone answer something for me, bc the wiki does not help.


do SK's in forum games act like they do in ToS.
meaning, if targeted they kill the person who targeted them? and if so, does this count towards jailors?

bc if tom is a sk, then entrophy jailing him would have resulted in her death.
but if tom is a SK, mafia could have tried to kill him but he would be either 1-shot bulletproof or full immunity meaning kills either overlapped or someone is immune and mafia hit the sk?

 

[Dolby]

can someone answer something for me, bc the wiki does not help.


do SK's in forum games act like they do in ToS.
meaning, if targeted they kill the person who targeted them? and if so, does this count towards jailors?

bc if tom is a sk, then entrophy jailing him would have resulted in her death.
but if tom is a SK, mafia could have tried to kill him but he would be either 1-shot bulletproof or full immunity meaning kills either overlapped or someone is immune and mafia hit the sk?

I've never seen it work like that on TBT

 

[Trent the Paladin]

Which the KP does not add up for, the only way this is possible is if he hit whoever was jailed. Which was likely Tom- and in what world would a SK ever hit Tom?

One looking to frame Entropy? I mean now that the cat is out of the bag, there's obviously no reason to straight up kill me. But before I outed, killing me would have been an easy frame on Entropy and well anyone I sussed. Plus I dunno about you, but I think I'm one of the few veteran players least likely to be protected at all. Hence why I asked for it.

give me some time on this one, I've got something I've been working on for the duration of this day phase.
promise it won't disappoint. think back to T

I'm on mobile sorry, but @xine why do we think tom would be jailed at all? why would she jail the guy who tunneled her so hard.

:/ I dunno why you just don't take what I said at face value, this is probably the most honest I've been in a mafia game since TBT Mafia II.

Theory as to why I would be jailed: If Entropy believed me to be mafia, then there's a 1 in 3(4??) chances I would have sent kills in. By jailing me, the kills would (most likely) have been roleblocked. No mafia kills, Entropy outs and I am lynched. It's a protection, but a roleblock at the same time. Essentially you cage your suspect to clear yourself and kill them.

i don't think i'd waste the jail on tom, esp after his roleclaim, what use would he be to town? esp if we can't even believe him?
also, why would an sk shoot someone people would be highly sus of? why would you kill someone that is the perfect distraction?

Remember my roleclaim did not come until after Entropy died. And my use to town right now is keeping you guys above water by merely living, because unless Daniel does it differently, I count towards town numbers despite being neutral.

I addressed the potential of an SK shot with Xine's quote above.

i think tom's role is passive / manipulative. i don't think he's got kp.

Correct! Manipulative trash as a lyncher, passive as a survivor. No kp, no tricks.

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can someone answer something for me, bc the wiki does not help.


do SK's in forum games act like they do in ToS.
meaning, if targeted they kill the person who targeted them? and if so, does this count towards jailors?

bc if tom is a sk, then entrophy jailing him would have resulted in her death.
but if tom is a SK, mafia could have tried to kill him but he would be either 1-shot bulletproof or full immunity meaning kills either overlapped or someone is immune and mafia hit the sk?

Like Dolby said, nobody has ever done it like that here. Plus a kill immune SK is a bit overpowered here. Plus I would think that my jailing would roleblock that ability, but I haven't played enough ToS to be sure of that.

 

[tae]

I've never seen it work like that on TBT

alright thank you. just making sure because i know they're not the same game plays but it can't help to ask.

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Like Dolby said, nobody has ever done it like that here. Plus a kill immune SK is a bit overpowered here. Plus I would think that my jailing would roleblock that ability, but I haven't played enough ToS to be sure of that.

you're not confirmed for being jailed N1.
unless you have a roleblocked action pm you'd like to admit to.


regardless what you seem to say i do not and i refuse to believe your role claim, tom.

 

[Trent the Paladin]

you're not confirmed for being jailed N1.
unless you have a roleblocked action pm you'd like to admit to.


regardless what you seem to say i do not and i refuse to believe your role claim, tom.

No, no I'm not. It's all entirely hypotheticals and speculation.
No roleblocked PM, I have no night actions to block so I wouldn't have recieved one I would think but let's ask Dannyboy.

If I was roleblocked, would I be notified?

Why not Tae? Most everyone else thinks so and while I applaud you for continuing to think about other possibilities, I'd rather not die either by your hand or any other so I'd like to ease more consciences in any way possible.

 

[Chrystina]

can someone answer something for me, bc the wiki does not help.


do SK's in forum games act like they do in ToS.
meaning, if targeted they kill the person who targeted them? and if so, does this count towards jailors?

bc if tom is a sk, then entrophy jailing him would have resulted in her death.
but if tom is a SK, mafia could have tried to kill him but he would be either 1-shot bulletproof or full immunity meaning kills either overlapped or someone is immune and mafia hit the sk?

the bold part I can see happening. as for the rest, I've never heard/seen of that happening.

 

[tae]

Why not Tae? Most everyone else thinks so and while I applaud you for continuing to think about other possibilities, I'd rather not die either by your hand or any other so I'd like to ease more consciences in any way possible.

i asked a question yesterday that was directed at xine, but was completely overlooked by xine and everyone else here.

 

[Trent the Paladin]

what about a nexus? xine have you ever play with a nexus before?

This one? Because honestly what the hell is a Nexus besides Google Phones.

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Nexus is a player that passively redirects players who target it to a random other player. Kills cannot be redirected in this way, so as to prevent the Nexus from being unkillable.
This role is very much within role madness. However, it is not necessarily of any alignment.
Nexus is the opposite of Lightning Rod.

Given my character name and their motivations, I don't think I'm a Nexus.

 

[tae]

This one? Because honestly what the hell is a Nexus besides Google Phones.

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Given my character name and their motivations, I don't think I'm a Nexus.

but how do you know if you don't even know what a nexus is?

 

[Trent the Paladin]

but how do you know if you don't even know what a nexus is?

I just quoted the Mafia scum wiki??????? And regardless, what good is a third party Nexus, unless it's the SK bit you're implying that was at the bottom of the page?