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Here’s what I find very off about Tina (besides the fact she slight scum read a lot of players)

She scum read Cory and there’s a bit of back and forth with her and Cory before Cory role claims.
Xine made the OBVIOUS clear here:
"Is there more to it than the part about the game? " Is referring to Tom's rolename, and how you believe he is not lying about his claim due to the character in the game targeting Melia.

Why did you feel the need to roleclaim? Inkling claimed as well and it is starting to really annoy me. I assumed people would already know this by now, especially after last game.

Unless you're up for lynch, do NOT roleclaim. Not only does it look shady as ****, you are only narrowing down the PR's.
But what Cory did is said and done, can’t undo it. He explains why he did so here:
The pr role names are obvious.
I felt the need to role claim because it would defend my case of not reading my whole role pm.
And tina’s response.
And it worked. While I think it's always important to read your PM in detail regardless of role, I can so see you doing this lol.

Am I reading this wrong orrrr…?
Tbh I would prefer an inkling lynch today, and Tina tomorrow.
 
@Tom you town read Tina when she scum reads Cory for pointing out something obvious and then back pedals and votes Ashtot ?

Kind of. Mostly because I haven't really played a game where Tina has put in effort recently, just coasted off the opinions of others. So the reads and pushing buttons is a good sign to me? And tbh I scumread Cory as well since he's about as useful as Ashtoto right now anyways.
 
soz I've been busy lately with school etc etc. one question though, why the f*** are the votes on Inkling??

c'mon hayden. ): read back on the thread.

xine pretty much came in and pointed out every little scummy thing about them, and she has yet to post any reads or anything contributing to help us.
 
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Hopefully you're next
Lmao
 
@Tina so now you're not ever voting your main sus? hmm... ya that read on Cory was a def reach and now that you see its not ok with us you have to back pedal and go along with someone most of us is sus of?

That's a big assumption. I chose not to vote for him right now because after he replied to the thing that made me most certain on him, and I weighed his response with what I know about him as a player and a person (I've been playing mafia with Cory over two years), I considered his response plausible.

I disagree about it being 'a reach'. And having seen Tom's post here...

Ya know I actually went back and viewed my wincons, it never mentioned anything about killer third parties. I'm assuming that's someone I could potentially win with then, but I think it's relevant information right now. And correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Cory mentioned playing Xenoblade before?

... I'm actually more confident about my initial read because he said he wasn't informed about killer third parties. Why did I bring up the point in the first place? Because I'm town and my own PM tells me that there are killer third parties. So it struck me as weird that Cory seemed to think this was new information which he explicitly stated was based off of reading Crys' PM. So if Cory were town, he'd know this too. Had anyone besides Cory said they didn't actually read their PM, I wouldn't have believed them. But it's Cory. And, even so, my deduction was actually correct. A person who was town and knew their win con would not have made a comment like that. And Cory admitted he never read the win con.

Whether or not you and others are "ok" with my opinion is irrelevant to me. If I believe in something I'll push it. And if I get lynched for it other than it being hilarious for me as it'll be my first time ever being lynched as town, then at least you guys will have my opinions to refer back to later and do with them what you want.

As for why I voted Ashtot, honestly I didn't even care to look at others opinions first. I realised I wouldn't be online and I forgot day was 48 hours instead of 24 so I weighed the people I found suspicious - Cory, Ashtot, Xerolin, and Caddberry. Of these Ashtot was the person I was most certain of, since Cory had already responded to my biggest concern regarding him and I felt that his answer was genuine.




That flip flop makes me scream. Tina, why did you immediately back off of Cory and sheep the bandwagon?

See above. I backed off of Cory because he gave me a reason to my biggest concern that I saw as being plausible. So I voted the next person on my list because I thought I wouldn't be around for the vote. I thought we were on a 24/24 cycle not 48/24. Prob cos I joined three-quarters of the way through D1.




She went to go ban people to relieve the pressure

I'm not really feeling pressured. What I see happening is a couple people with legitimate questions, and the rest of you hopping on the bandwagon because a stronger player said something. Although I also feel people are being misled's by Ashtot's completely outdated summary of my play style. I haven't gone hardcore in a game since Bird Mafia II in August 2014, where I was action-immune and knew I could go as hard as I liked and never die. And how did I single out the one-man team mafia player in that game? By catching out an inconsistency in their post that a genuine town player wouldn't have said.




Ness Tina- did anyone else notice her reads were almost entirely sus reads? refer back to when tom and i were going at it. scum reading almost half the playerlist is never a good sign.

I only had four scum reads: Ashtot, Cory, Xerolin, and Caddberry. Everyone else I was either still in the middle on and needed to re-read their posts, or I was town-leaning on them. I had an equal number of town and scum reads - four of each.




@Tom you town read Tina when she scum reads Cory for pointing out something obvious and then back pedals and votes Ashtot ?

There is far more to it than you've said here, which I've already outlined above.




And it worked. While I think it's always important to read your PM in detail regardless of role, I can so see you doing this lol.

Am I reading this wrong orrrr??
Tbh I would prefer an inkling lynch today, and Tina tomorrow.

I believe you are. Someone (Xine?) asked Cory why he role claimed. He explained why, and I explained that yes his role claim is actually the reason I didn't feel I had to push the case any further. Because I can actually believe that Cory would see the word "townie" and then not even bother to read the rest or even check his win con. Which IMO is ridiculous but I can see Cory doing that simply just from how long I've known him and been playing this game with him.
 
That's a big assumption. I chose not to vote for him right now because after he replied to the thing that made me most certain on him, and I weighed his response with what I know about him as a player and a person (I've been playing mafia with Cory over two years), I considered his response plausible.

I disagree about it being 'a reach'. And having seen Tom's post here...



... I'm actually more confident about my initial read because he said he wasn't informed about killer third parties. Why did I bring up the point in the first place? Because I'm town and my own PM tells me that there are killer third parties. So it struck me as weird that Cory seemed to think this was new information which he explicitly stated was based off of reading Crys' PM. So if Cory were town, he'd know this too. Had anyone besides Cory said they didn't actually read their PM, I wouldn't have believed them. But it's Cory. And, even so, my deduction was actually correct. A person who was town and knew their win con would not have made a comment like that. And Cory admitted he never read the win con.

Whether or not you and others are "ok" with my opinion is irrelevant to me. If I believe in something I'll push it. And if I get lynched for it other than it being hilarious for me as it'll be my first time ever being lynched as town, then at least you guys will have my opinions to refer back to later and do with them what you want.

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So do you think Cory just safe claimed?
I've been town reading Cory since day 1, and I really don't think he would slip like that as scum - but here you seem to come back to the fact that he would.
 
Xerolin has been unfortunately banned from TBT and will be unable to play this game. I will look into finding them a replacement after I find a replacement for Aronthaer.
 
So do you think Cory just safe claimed?
I've been town reading Cory since day 1, and I really don't think he would slip like that as scum - but here you seem to come back to the fact that he would.

I don't know. But the fact is he gave a reason I thought was plausible given who it came from. I'm inclined to believe that a townie Cory would not read his role PM in full. I've been playing with him since he was a nub and haven't played a game with him where he was scum in a long long time, so yes I do have belief that he would he could slip like that. Just like I also believe he is silly enough not to even read his own win con. I'd rather consider the possibility I'm wrong about this and think more about it, rather than be stubborn and try lead a possible mislynch because of it. His posts following mine regarding his knowledge on the theme and how confident he is that it will lead to us winning the game definitely has me second-guessing my opinion on him.

I'm home alone for the next 11-12hrs, bf is asleep and I don't expect him to wake up for a few hours yet, and I need to wait in on a new aquarium cabinet coming late this afternoon. So I'll be working on something throughout the day between household tasks.
 
I don't know. But the fact is he gave a reason I thought was plausible given who it came from. I'm inclined to believe that a townie Cory would not read his role PM in full. I've been playing with him since he was a nub and haven't played a game with him where he was scum in a long long time, so yes I do have belief that he would he could slip like that. Just like I also believe he is silly enough not to even read his own win con. I'd rather consider the possibility I'm wrong about this and think more about it, rather than be stubborn and try lead a possible mislynch because of it. His posts following mine regarding his knowledge on the theme and how confident he is that it will lead to us winning the game definitely has me second-guessing my opinion on him.

I'm home alone for the next 11-12hrs, bf is asleep and I don't expect him to wake up for a few hours yet, and I need to wait in on a new aquarium cabinet coming late this afternoon. So I'll be working on something throughout the day between household tasks.

Hmmm. Okay.
It looks like I did entirely misread that post in response to Cory, and your reads as well. (For the record I never saw that flip-flop to Ashtot scummy. )

So Tina is basically this now.

- - - Post Merge - - -

please post merge.


Tom - i don't think you're what you say you are. but right now i can't prove it so lets see where you go from here.

unless you're not actually an exe/lyncher/survivor.

tae, you seem very sold on the fact that Tom's claim is not genuine. Is this just because it's a closed setup and you really don't believe any claim, or?

1.PandaDarling
8.Taesaek
18.Cory
19.Xine
14.Ares
2.Dolby
4.Mother of all Llamas
10.Jacob
20.Tardis2016
11.Tom
17.Tina
5.Alexi
13.Nightmares
15.Hayden
21.Xerolin
6.Ashtot
9.Inkling
16.Aronthaer-Waiting on Replacement


Here are my color coded reads, wanted to get these out before I jet to school, I will be home in 7-8 hours so I apologize for not responding for a while if you have questions about anything.
I hope you can elaborate on at least some of these at some point today.
Sorry, I'm not trying to awkwardly defend myself here, but I was wondering what makes me seem scum?
Please contribute in at least something today. Please.
 
Hmmm. Okay.
It looks like I did entirely misread that post in response to Cory, and your reads as well. (For the record I never saw that flip-flop to Ashtot scummy. )

So Tina is basically this now.

- - - Post Merge - - -

please post merge.






tae, you seem very sold on the fact that Tom's claim is not genuine. Is this just because it's a closed setup and you really don't believe any claim, or?


I hope you can elaborate on at least some of these at some point today.

Please contribute in at least something today. Please.

Hmm um.....taesaek seems Town.....and so does PandaDarling.......yup

- - - Post Merge - - -

Also, what's "OMGUS"?
 
Hmm um.....taesaek seems Town.....and so does PandaDarling.......yup

Really?


..

I'm honestly starting to believe that
This is probably going to sound stupid, but do Mafia know each other? Sorry haha xD

this was something your scum buddies told you in the qt to say to make you seem town.
because everything else, besides this being your 2nd game, has been entirely not pro-town at all.
 
Really?


..

I'm honestly starting to believe that


this was something your scum buddies told you in the qt to say to make you seem town.
because everything else, besides this being your 2nd game, has been entirely not pro-town at all.

This is actually my 3rd game....show how bad I am at this ...xD
Oh and what's "qt"? lmao

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*shows
Rip
 
Didn't catch your post merge.

OMGUS means "Oh my god, you suck. I'm suspicious of you, because you're suspicious of me."

Which I actually defined yesterday evening, which makes me believe you've yet to catch up from what you missed. So, please do so.

- - - Post Merge - - -

This is actually my 3rd game....show how bad I am at this ...xD
Oh and what's "qt"? lmao

- - - Post Merge - - -

*shows
Rip

Quick topic. What scum uses to chat with each other.


Meh, this is just more town slips.
Basically, what would be very helpful is for you to just give a basic read on everyone. Null/Slight town/Town/Sus/Slight scum/Scum.
 
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