Mafia Xenoblade Chronicles Mafia-Endgame

[Trent the Paladin]

If we are at LYLO and if their is a killing third party wouldn't the game keep going on until the SK is dead?

Yes, but assuming there will be any town left to survive the slaughter between mafia and SK is laughable.

 

[PandaDarling]

Going off of Crys's win condition, yes

"going off of Crys win con" hahaha ya make sure you put that part in there.

 

[Kirbystarship]

Mafia Know each other so if it is the SK Vs mafia SK would get killed right away.

 

[Trent the Paladin]

Mafia Know each other so if it is the SK Vs mafia SK would get killed right away.

That's assuming mafia knows who SK is. Otherwise they're shooting into a barrel of fish hoping to get lucky

 

[Kirbystarship]

Yes, but assuming there will be any town left to survive the slaughter between mafia and SK is laughable.

I still don't like how you are the only one who is claiming to be a third party. you could be the SK and you are fake claiming a different third party role.

 

[PandaDarling]

I still don't like how you are the only one who is claiming to be a third party. you could be the SK and you are fake claiming a different third party role.

Very true and don't forget it.

 

[Dolby]

I still don't like how you are the only one who is claiming to be a third party. you could be the SK and you are fake claiming a different third party role.

Kills don't really point to there being a serial killer, unless the mafia had 3 members at the start of the game or they have a different KP system than usual

 

[Jacob]

Kills don't really point to there being a serial killer, unless the mafia had 3 members at the start of the game or they have a different KP system than usual

Or the SK could be a D1 inactive

 

[Dolby]

Or the SK could be a D1 inactive

That could true, but I don't think that any one alive fits the description of not being able to send in their action during the nights

 

[Trent the Paladin]

I still don't like how you are the only one who is claiming to be a third party. you could be the SK and you are fake claiming a different third party role.

It's pretty ballsy to fake claim Lyncher/Survivor when you're an SK, especially when none of the kill point to it. So unless you're going to accuse me of being an SK with really good luck of overlapping mafia kills or withholding mine, kindly go tunnel someone else's bunghole.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Hey Xine what's your username elsewhere? Interested in reading up past games of yours.

 

[Kirbystarship]

It's pretty ballsy to fake claim Lyncher/Survivor when you're an SK, especially when none of the kill point to it. So unless you're going to accuse me of being an SK with really good luck of overlapping mafia kills or withholding mine, kindly go tunnel someone else's bunghole.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Hey Xine what's your username elsewhere? Interested in reading up past games of yours.

I hope mafia comes after you.

 

[mother of all llamas]

Cadbberry and Jacob sheeping as usual, if anything I am almost sure that one of them is scum. Jacob is perfectly matching his scum meta and does not do anything to contribute except pushing for the easy lynch. Cadbberry is even worse because she is so indecisive about EVERYTHING and follows and sheeps everyone so make her look like she is town.

- - - Post Merge - - -

I hope mafia comes after you.

If he is actually a Survivor, mafia will keep him alive because TOM can WIN with SCUM.

 

[Cadbberry]

Cadbberry and Jacob sheeping as usual, if anything I am almost sure that one of them is scum. Jacob is perfectly matching his scum meta and does not do anything to contribute except pushing for the easy lynch. Cadbberry is even worse because she is so indecisive about EVERYTHING and follows and sheeps everyone so make her look like she is town.

- - - Post Merge - - -


If he is actually a Survivor, mafia will keep him alive because TOM can WIN with SCUM.

How am I sheeping? I have been for Dolby all of N2 and D3. If you want to talk about sheeping I would look at your self, you have given terrible descriptions and answers as to why you want to lynch anyone and just pop in to band wagon vote.

 

[mother of all llamas]

How am I sheeping? I have been for Dolby all of N2 and D3. If you want to talk about sheeping I would look at your self, you have given terrible descriptions and answers as to why you want to lynch anyone and just pop in to band wagon vote.

How hard is it for you to buss Dolby?

 

[Kirbystarship]

I hope mafia comes after you.

Also I think the host gave the third party a safe claim and you are using it Tom. And how am I tunneling you?

 

[Cadbberry]

How hard is it for you to buss Dolby?

I am not bussing anyone, I can't even buss in the first place considering I am not mafia. Dolby is scummy as it is and he has helped him self get lynched with all the things he has said. I am also not the only person to say it, if I am bussing dolby then why are there a multitude of cases against him and many many votes against him, because a lot of people say he is mafia.

 

[Dolby]

Ashtot​

When it just says Ashtot in the quote bar, its from this game

What time Zone are you in? I live in the far east of the magical land of beavers and maple syrup.
How many games have you played? I've played a lot.
How do you react under pressure? I don't.
What role do you want to be? Something that can set people on fire.
What will you be notable for? Winning.
Pronouns? I don't care.
Character art?

View attachment 171487

Nothing really notable here, though he isn't really playing to win

Confirmed scum, thanks fam.

Scumreads Inkling because he apparently doesn't like their RQS. Which is not a good reason for being suspicious of someone. This is a weak Day One read and uncharacteristic of Ashtot. The last game that Ashtot was town in was Game of Thrones mafia.

That's the joke.

Anyways, you should probably defend yourself because it's clear that you're Mafia.

To be fair, I told you why I think you're scum and Endless backed me up later as well. I'm not stupid. Yes, I've been really bored with the last dozen games because they've been small, filled with noobs, and some have been poorly run, but I'm actually decent at this. You're right that I shouldn't be cleared, by I have given Town tells this far into the game in a few places. The only thing scummy about my behaviour so far hasn't been shown, but I do support inactive lynches.

Also m3ow, your latest posts have shown that since you've been caught, you're backpedaling, attempting to sound like you've cooled off and want to help Town, while discretely trying to shift attention from yourself to me (once again). There is no reason to believe that I'm scum other than "Ashtot might be scum", and I've contributed more than you at this point. All of your arguments are basically dead at this point, and you're going to need to do something of worth in order to live.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Of course it is also possible that you just really suck at being Town (that would be unfortunate).

Also I'm not sure where all the stupid votes are coming from. Kit is a decent candidate but I'm leaning a bit more towards them being stupid Town than scum, but I guess we'll see. The only lynches I'm okay with at this point are Kit, m3ow, and Dolby (because as some people found out last game, he's a huge threat).

Seems quite different, yes? Despite being killed Night One, Ashtot's posts were serious, and he had a rate of posting almost twice as many posts each day.

Part of playing Mafia is backing up your accusations, otherwise you're wasting everyone's time

I'm not suspicious of Tom, but I am of Alexi and Jacob.

The irony is strong in this one, completely hypocritical

Well tbh I was just completely bs'ing everything I said earlier to see what she would do, hehe.

This is clearly not a town Ashtot we are dealing with

Spoiler: Ashtot's ****posts and derailments(warning: Long)

Well now that we've wasted the first several hours with meaningless RQS, let's get down to the facts.

Dolby is in this game. You know what that means, right?

Dolby needs to get rekt.

Well you know how I feel about gut feelings.

What does that even mean?

That's a stupid strategy. Bussing is much more effective.

He doesn't, he said he has his reasons.

You should read the thread. :eggplant:

You just contradicted yourself.

Sound pretty scummy tbh.

That's the joke.

Anyways, you should probably defend yourself because it's clear that you're Mafia.

It's 6:17PM for me, also simply saying that people who don't agree with you is scum is pretty scummy,

tbh.

Silly people. It's okay though, someday you'll understand

Wow this post was so meta.....

See people, I'm not crazy, Jacob is probably a bad guy.

Wow it's like you took the words right out of my esophagus, tbh.

Thanks, you've greatly added to the discussion.

You probably think I'm scummy because I think you're scummy.

Suddenly a hostile octopus appears, frantically waving it's tentacles and trying to communicate, I wonder what it's trying to say?

Excuse me, my horse doesn't appreciate the sass.

xD

My horse doesn't appreciate you slandering his penis.

Well thanks, he appreciates your apology.

I'm honestly feeling so attacked right now. It's hard to do my best when everyone thinks I have a high horse.

also simply saying that people who don't agree with you is scum is pretty scummy

So the converse should hold true as well right? People agreeing with you shouldn't be townleans just based off of that?

Creating discussion, having similar reads as me, and generally behaving pro-Town. I mean I just personally agree with the stuff he says so I'm biased. If I'm going to be honest, he hasn't done that much, it's just that others have done so little. There are some people on here at least creating discussion but they're mostly just crazy.

These two fall under the same tent, but what you're saying here is that you personally agree with him and that's why you town read him. Only one thing that I have to say about that

You just contradicted yourself.

Hey guys, sorry that I haven't been active. Thursday is my busy day. Anyways, since I don't see Mafia winning at this point, and whoever is scum seems to know who all the blues are anyway, I'm just going to claim.

I'm Otharon (Veteran).

I think that Ashtot would do more for us as a Veteran and play seriously. Veteran is a desirable fakeclaim for a mafia member, as I've said before

Now on Ash's reads post

Spoiler

Well, first off I guess I?ll just apologize for sucking this game, and basically all of my recent games for the past while. I don?t know why but when I sign up for Mafia I generally think I?m going to clean up my play and take things seriously but it never happens. I don?t know if I?m just lazy or tired or missing old players, but these aren?t good excuses anyway, and I?m going to try my best to be useful in these games instead of letting my team down every time.

I?ve taken the time to post my thoughts on everyone in the game.

PandaDarling:
Panda has posted a lot and I don?t really want to go through all of her posts, because it hasn?t been anything huge, but her play this game reminds me of her town play in the other games I?ve been in with her. I?m quite convinced by how she?s posting that she is Town aligned. This is due to the style, which is quick short posts and constantly putting a bit of pressure on different people. She is generally someone who you think might be coasting, but realistically is an asset to Town because of her questions, pressure, etc. Another tell that reminds me of past games is her seemingly angry posts that occur because she legitimately wants to see Town win, so she thinks stupid crap is really frustrating and annoying. I?m 99% sure that Panda is Town (none of this was meant to be an insult).

mother of all llamas:

I am going to vote Area based on his scummy behaviour. I have read back and his posts just stick out to me. His RQS he seemed very over confident and I feel like it was more forced. Also to backup would be his backlash on Crys so quickly... Unless something comes up I'll be placing my vote on him

mother of all llamas has been afk this game. This is the only post they?ve made so it isn?t much to go off of. I think it?s most likely just inactive green.

Dolby:

I found a quote that I found quite interesting.



I find it interesting that Dolby was also pushing for Entropy. This is odd because Dolby is known for being someone who can easily find blue roles in a game, and with someone as forward and active as Entropy, I would think it would be easy for him to find out. In this context, It seems like Dolby is just off his game, but he could potentially have been going after an Entropy lynch because he knew that she was blue. Dolby hasn?t said much this game, but this post seems scummy to me, and I still think Dolby is most likely scum.

Alexi:

I don?t really understand Alexi because she has done things that seem very Town but also done things that seem kind of scummy. Overall, they've been posting a lot of their reads and trying to push the game forward, rather than stopping it, which is definitely Town play. I'm leaning towards her being Town but I'm not sure.

Taesaek:

Honestly the only thing that I find is weird with Tae is how defensive they are when it comes to certain players in the game. I?m not sure if it?s worth looking into or if they?re just friends, but I?m not sure it really matters because I doubt they would defend someone blindly without considering them for scum. So far I?ve read them as Town this game. They?ve been very aggressive, seemingly ticked off, and constantly pushing in order to get answers, which is good pro-Town behaviour, except maybe with a bit less hostility, but it?s understandable. I?m about 85% sure that Taesaek is Town.

Inkling:

Inkling made a couple posts but then randomly popped in last night and starting saying a bunch of random stuff. Most of it I didn?t understand, but it seemed that they were extremely emotional and it probably affected their playing. They focused on Panda and Myself and thought that Panda was scum because she was seemingly less aggressive than her typical Town play, which I disagree with. I think it's possible that they're scum, but I'm not sure at this point.

Jacob:

Jacob hasn?t posted that much in the last day, but his posts throw me off because the wording is just weird (not in a bad way, I?m just not used to it). He?s made a lot of posts that make it seem like he?s trying to go through the game with minimal effort and give blanket statements that seem helpful to Town. I lean toward him being third party or scum.

Tom:

I?ve said a lot about Tom this game, and I think everyone knows my stance on him, but to repeat it, I believe he is playing very pro-Town, and while he claims he is third party, he is an asset to Town at this point in the game. My preference is to let him be an asset and stop bothering him for now, but I can see why others would rather have him killed, because there is a chance he is still third party or scum.

Nightmares:

I don?t really have anything to say on them. They?ve only posted a little and most of their posts are trollish or irrelevant. I think they?re most likely inactive green.

Tina:

Tina is quite interesting because, in my experience, when Tina is Town, she is very, very Town. In all of my games with Tina, she went completely hardcore when Town aligned and makes lots of giant posts, and makes it very obvious that she is Town. In this game, Tina doesn?t seem to care much, which is typical for her as third party or scum. I haven?t played with Tina that recently, but if her play is still similar to old times, I believe without a doubt that Tina is third party or scum. I?ve heard her make excuses of being busy before to counter arguments like this, but it?s always an excuse and never a reality because if she is Town she cares too much not to try.

Ares:

Ares has been afk, but they?ve apparently come back so hopefully they?ll be more active. This is the only quote of any significance that I found.



It?s a huge stretch but it?s possible that they were soft claiming a jester type role.

Hayden:

I honestly don?t know, they haven?t posted much, and from what I know of them outside Mafia (they sent me a flower calling me a lovely lady), they?re just as unpredictable as in Mafia.

Cory:

Cory is a weird dude, but he?s been actually trying this game. Some of his posts seem really sloppy but I think it?s because he?s on mobile. Cory used to be similar to my level of quality in this game but he?s stepped up a lot and he?s behaving very pro-Town this game. He hasn?t been inconsistent. I?m 85% sure he is Town.

Xine:

I don?t think I?ve ever played with Xine, but they seem extremely competent, as well as aggressive. So far they?ve grilled people, including myself, posted thoughtful reads, and asked questions. I think they?re most likely Town, but something about them makes me think of past players who were really great at being Town even if they were actually scum.

Tardis2016:

They've mostly been repeating what others say and just coasting off of following the leader. I don?t have a read on them.



This is the only thing I think is really weird, but it makes me think they?re just noob Town rather than Mafia.

Xerolin:

They haven?t really done anything other than defend a couple afk players and say that they are going to post reads or make a case on people but never follow through. They?re playing like scum but I don?t know if it?s that or just not interested in the game.

Caddberry:

I think they?re new, but I?m not really sure. Regardless, they seem like they?re actually trying and they?ve been playing decently pro-Town, though not putting that much effort in. They even made sure to think through things and not simply be a sheep. I think Caddberry is Town.

Why would you consider llamas to be an inactive townie, considering that they are displaying the same behavior whether town or scum? You half red half green read Alexi, yet what you say indicates that you full town read Alexi, what made you specifically made you uncertain towards them? You say that Tina doesn't care much about the game, yet she's had made two extensive read lists already.

Ashtot is full of inconsistencies and is not playing like he would or should as a town member or a veteran

I'd go into some more people who I'm scumreading right now, but I just want to sleep at the moment, will do it tomorrow, but I want to bring this up

Spoiler: Mentions of me by Panda prior to Day Three

PandaDarling
Xine
Tardis2016
Cadbberry
Taesaek
Nightmares
Ares
Jacob
Cory
Aronthaer
Tina
Dolby
Mother of all Llamas
Tom
Hayden
Inkling
Alexi
Ashtot
Xerolin

this is just off the top of my head, gut feelings, and from what i can remember.

Spoiler

PandaDarling

Xine- Seems to be their helpful self, trying to help lead us in the right direction with their strong, well organized, thorough reads post.

Tardis2016- He is being is usually town self, pops in tries to contribute but i don think he understands the game fully, so comes across scummy sometimes.

Cadbberry- I was sus for a minute with all the unsureness of D1 but i was reminded that it matched her meta from last game as town and she is still new some im comfortable placing her as a town lean.

Taesaek- Doing his usually thing trying to question players to gain helpful information and pushing people to be inactive to get the game into full swing.

Ares- I'm placing them in my town lean for now because of the bandwagon that nearly took their head off but if they don't start contributing i won't know what to think, they are more concerned by who is sus of them (from their last post) im going to give them some more time to help prove themselves.

Cory- Generally seems helpful trying to get us any bit of information he can so that we can piece together this puzzle and make more sense of it.

Tom- You have moved out of my sus zone cause your story is starting to add up but you are not a town lean for me just yet, you have a long way to prove yourself after trying to get our Jailor lynched D1.

Nightmares- Is new? I guess? they say to have played a couple games before but then asks "so mafia know who each other are?" which could be a town slip but i feel like their 'ignorance' of the game along with their refusal to help might prove to be something hazardous to town so im not town leaning them yet.

Aronthaer- Not much to go on, asked for a replacement and we have yet to see one, hoping they get here soon, so we can get a read and hopefully they will be helpful.

Alexi- Out of the sus zone as of right now, i was scum leaning her earlier for her sheepish qualities and her play reminding me of last game when she would try to take out the target everyone had their eyes on (Aron/Ares) but since then has seem less sus and admitted it was a dumb town play.

Dolby- Everyone says "A Silent Dolby is a Dangerous Dolby" but im not going to scum read him just cause of radio silence, but if he does not join in soon and prove he is town aligned then he may be moved to a low slot on this list.

Mother of all Llamas- What do i even say ? her inactivity doesn't prove her alignment either way I've seen them absent as both town and scum, i just don't understand the point of signing up for the game and not contributing more then a "hello" post and a vote every now and again to keep from being modkilled, it sucks some of the fun out of the game for others and it defiantly can't be that fun for her right? don't get me wrong im all for Llamas playing the game but if your gonna sign up then PLAY, ok sorry rant over.

Jacob- I can't really explain it he is just rubbing me the wrong way i have reason to believe he is also trying to pick on a weak town player and is refusing to give it up.

Xerolin- Seems to understand the game comes in whenever we mention their inactivity and s*** post and refuses to be helpful and is out right distracting.

Hayden- Heyden made a few post D1 that i will have to go find and explain but it didnt sit right with me and now this recent agreement with Tina def has me worried about them.

Ashtot- I think he might be scum especially now that Tom is proving he may not be scum, i think Ash was trying to pocket Tom before any of us were willing to believe him in hopes of maybe if we ended up lynching Tom and he turned out honest that Ash would seem correct and less sus. He was clearly Tom way too earlier and makes me think he knows stuff we don't all know.

Tina- Made a post similar to this, and the only person she main sus was Cory for a post that was him just pointing out the obvious in Entropy's Role PM, i get what her train of thought is on that but i find it extremely weird that its her one and only thing of being really sus about, maybe she is trying to seem not sheepish as scum maybe she thinks Cory is a threat to her, im not sure but it seems to me that she wants him gone for little to no reason.

Inkling- The exchange between Ink and I was interesting yesterday, i barely looked in her direction and she got pretty defensive I know she has done this as town as well, but then the way she just tried to leave the conversation makes me think that she was trying to control herself as to not give away too much info like she did in Trump Mafia, maybe she has someone scum coaching her, telling her "ok abort abort!" cause after it started to get pretty heated she then said "im gonna cry now, goodnight" this along with the unhelpful-ness and unwillingness to help contribute and to even prove town alignment isn't sitting right with me at all. I don't like to pick on the weaker players cause sometimes its just town not knowing how to play but i feel like Ink would know by now how to prove they were pro-town.

- - - Post Merge - - -



@Tina so now you're not ever voting your main sus? hmm... ya that read on Cory was a def reach and now that you see its not ok with us you have to back pedal and go along with someone most of us is sus of?

Why are you lurking ?

Dolby & Tom I see you both lurking, don't have anything to say ?

DOLBY you've seriously been here forever you need to contribute !

Spoiler: Suddenly, a wild drop in post quality appeared(Day Three)

I agree with Tardis, Dolby is dangerous.

WHAT !!!!!! He voted after deadline ? NO !!! I demand he get modkilled !!!

- - - Post Merge - - -

modkill Dolby for not voting 2 days in a row, that is not fair to the rest of us!

- - - Post Merge - - -

This is bs if you were here to close the thread when it was supposed to he would get modkilled, bull s*** !!

Heyden what do you think about Dolby not voting two days in a row and not getting modkilled ?

- - - Post Merge - - -



No I don't care this is bull s*** Daniel said in the voting grew that it didn't count, he didn't vote the first day so he technically didn't vote for 2 day phases and needs to be modkilled.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Thread *^

It's not fair to everyone else in the game.

No need, we are lynching you. ha

are you purposely not reacted to me ? scum.

Dolby.... we are lynching you today.

what do you mean nobody else ? ? i don't get why he is asking that.

HE WILL VOTE. we aren't letting him slide by and hoping he f***s up again, no.

- - - Post Merge - - -



we know this.... you didnt even try D1 and then D2 you didn't make it in time should = mod kill.

nice try.... NO.

"going off of Crys win con" hahaha ya make sure you put that part in there.

to me that sounds like you are the Mafia God Father, and you are assuming you didn't get modkilled cause Daniel didnt want you to die like that.

I don't care about your excuses

He actually should have been modkilled at the end of D2 and if he is mafia and contributed towards mafia kp or his role whatever it is, very unfair....

Daniel you even said in the voting thread that it didn't count, so he technically didn't vote 2days and needs to by modkilled !!!

This change in behavior is distribing to say the least, especially when we look at her day three posts not involving me

Spoiler: Panda's non-Dolby involved quotes(Day Three)

Very true and don't forget it.

Llama your scum again ? lol

If you and Tina are in at the same time why don't you guys converse more ? Is it cause both of you are scum?

Sooo... Why don't you question her while she's on and get a better read on her?

Llama your scum again ? lol

I think that the possibility of Panda being sleeper lyncher is real

- - - Post Merge - - -

I am not bussing anyone, I can't even buss in the first place considering I am not mafia. Dolby is scummy as it is and he has helped him self get lynched with all the things he has said. I am also not the only person to say it, if I am bussing dolby then why are there a multitude of cases against him and many many votes against him, because a lot of people say he is mafia.

Literally sheeping right here, and may I remind you of the Inkling lynch yesterday

 

[Trent the Paladin]

I hope mafia comes after you.

Also I think the host gave the third party a safe claim and you are using it Tom. And how am I tunneling you?

Constantly riding my ass? Constantly throwing pasta at the wall, hoping something sticks to convince SOMEONE that I am somehow worth a lynch. "I think we should lynch Tom". I mean I can fetch the posts if you'd like, but it's pretty explainatory.

 

[Cadbberry]

Ashtot​

When it just says Ashtot in the quote bar, its from this game


Nothing really notable here, though he isn't really playing to win



Scumreads Inkling because he apparently doesn't like their RQS. Which is not a good reason for being suspicious of someone. This is a weak Day One read and uncharacteristic of Ashtot. The last game that Ashtot was town in was Game of Thrones mafia.



Seems quite different, yes? Despite being killed Night One, Ashtot's posts were serious, and he had a rate of posting almost twice as many posts each day.




The irony is strong in this one, completely hypocritical


This is clearly not a town Ashtot we are dealing with




So the converse should hold true as well right? People agreeing with you shouldn't be townleans just based off of that?

These two fall under the same tent, but what you're saying here is that you personally agree with him and that's why you town read him. Only one thing that I have to say about that



I think that Ashtot would do more for us as a Veteran and play seriously. Veteran is a desirable fakeclaim for a mafia member, as I've said before

Now on Ash's reads post



Why would you consider llamas to be an inactive townie, considering that they are displaying the same behavior whether town or scum? You half red half green read Alexi, yet what you say indicates that you full town read Alexi, what made you specifically made you uncertain towards them? You say that Tina doesn't care much about the game, yet she's had made two extensive read lists already.

Ashtot is full of inconsistencies and is not playing like he would or should as a town member or a veteran

I'd go into some more people who I'm scumreading right now, but I just want to sleep at the moment, will do it tomorrow, but I want to bring this up



This change in behavior is distribing to say the least, especially when we look at her day three posts not involving me


I think that the possibility of Panda being sleeper lyncher is real

- - - Post Merge - - -



Literally sheeping right here, and may I remind you of the Inkling lynch yesterday

I was first to vote on inkling because he was acting like scum and I have been trying to get people to see you were scum for days.

 

[Kirbystarship]

Constantly riding my ass? Constantly throwing pasta at the wall, hoping something sticks to convince SOMEONE that I am somehow worth a lynch. "I think we should lynch Tom". I mean I can fetch the posts if you'd like, but it's pretty explainatory.

OKAY I'LL STOP TUNNELING YOU FOR NOW