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Although this is plausible, it also screams Dino, Toad or I told you to post this in the mafia chat, and it kinda makes me more suss of Dino ahhhh, but not enough to vote Dino or here. After thinking it, actions speak louder than words, so I think I will vote for Catharina, that snipe vote does not sit right with me, maybe Toad told Catharina to vote last second to vote there and do some bussing? this super lite game is super hard.
I know what I did was looking very supicious so I understand why you want to vote me but I do want to ask: If I where mafia why would my mafia teammate want me to do a last minute snipe? That doesnt look great at all. Or is that some good strategie?
As a newbie who sees a town split in half and susing each other left and right, I would want to go for the person who didn't side with anyone at all, therefore creating no clears. Now, I could be wrong (clearly), but I don't think we should discount that possibility.
No, I'd argue that Volt would not have been killed for being absent and not taking sides. Killing off a quiet player usually isn't the way to go - the first kill is usually someone who is a strong player to stop them from being a problem later. This is even more true in a game where the players know each other well - if I was mafia here, I would absolutely have chosen Volt as my first kill because I'm fairly certain Volt would catch me out easily. (Ace, need I remind you of the time it literally was Volt having to pick between you and me, and picked me correctly?) I'm fairly certain that if Volt had become active later, mafia!me or mafia!Ace would have been caught out quick enough.
I doubt absence has anything to do with this kill.
I know what I did was looking very supicious so I understand why you want to vote me but I do want to ask: If I where mafia why would my mafia teammate want me to do a last minute snipe? That doesnt look great at all. Or is that some good strategie?
I see but would that be good in this cirumstance? As probably a lot of people are already up for voting me because what I did was really remarkable so example toad pushing me too wouldn't really make him convincingly a townie. But hey I'm not a pro so I don't know.
I see but would that be good in this cirumstance? As probably a lot of people are already up for voting me because what I did was really remarkable so example toad pushing me too wouldn't really make him convincingly a townie. But hey I'm not a pro so I don't know.
I can't really comment. If I was mafia, it's certainly not a tactic I would use because this is a 2 wolf game. If I got my partner eliminated, it might provide me with townie cred but at the same time I now need to win on my own, and that doesn't sound like a fair trade-off to me, but I don't know how Toad would want to play it if he was mafia here. I personally trust him anyway right now. If I did have to pick one 'experienced' player to be mafia here, I think it would have to be Ace. Less because Ace is acting sus, more because Toad is not acting sus. If that makes sense.
Also Toad pushing you would make him look more townie. There's a definite difference between simply voting for someone and being the one to lead a wagon. People who lead wagons tend to get the highest praise when it goes right - in my first game I lead two correct wagons in a row and by that point no-one seemed to think I could possibly have been mafia (which I wasn't) - and the highest suspicion when it goes wrong. It's easier for mafia to hide by jumping onto wagons that are already forming instead of forming them themselves because people are going to look to them if the wagon they led killed a townie.
I'd like to see more lists from everyone like this - to show your thoughts on each remaining person
1. thetessagrace - bleeding town imo, I don't feel comfortable voting
2. Ace Marvel - reading more townie to me, genuine rather than trying to thide anything
3. voltairenism - Vanilla Town (killed N1)
4. Miss Misty - sus
5. Catharina266 - that vote was sus
6. DinoTown - growing more skeptical
7. toadsworthy - absolutely town
8. AnnaSt - it'd be super meta if you and Dino were outright talking about your kill strategy
9. PandaDarling - Vanilla Town (eliminated D1)
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ya know a Miss Misty and Dinotown team seems plausible actually
I can't really comment. If I was mafia, it's certainly not a tactic I would use because this is a 2 wolf game. If I got my partner eliminated, it might provide me with townie cred but at the same time I now need to win on my own, and that doesn't sound like a fair trade-off to me, but I don't know how Toad would want to play it if he was mafia here. I personally trust him anyway right now. If I did have to pick one 'experienced' player to be mafia here, I think it would have to be Ace. Less because Ace is acting sus, more because Toad is not acting sus. If that makes sense.
Also Toad pushing you would make him look more townie. There's a definite difference between simply voting for someone and being the one to lead a wagon. People who lead wagons tend to get the highest praise when it goes right - in my first game I lead two correct wagons in a row and by that point no-one seemed to think I could possibly have been mafia (which I wasn't) - and the highest suspicion when it goes wrong. It's easier for mafia to hide by jumping onto wagons that are already forming instead of forming them themselves because people are going to look to them if the wagon they led killed a townie.
idk why you wrote so much here just to reason my last minute switch to Catharina both ways? Did it help you figure me out more? Did it help Catharina come to a conclusion about voting me? Nope - there's a lot of weird wording across your posts... idk who town sided ever says "[Night killed person] was the right choice", and I feel like you are scattering sus amongst everyone to try to keep avenues open. Maybe a little bit of pocketing me? I could absolutely see you with Miss Misty as well because you tried to put a little sus on her then overshadowed it with something about Catharina, then very quickly said something about miss misty being townie. No one else really gives me as strong of a complete team vibe... there is no way Anna/Dino team works at all, I don't think you and Catharina work at all. Maybe Ace with someone -even miss misty, but I don't get wolf vibes from Ace - I'm still voting Miss Misty because they have given me nothing extra to make me think they aren't wolfie
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im kinda surprised I lived tbh, makes me think im going somewhere with my Misty sus - and if Dino was their teammate, I could see them knowing not to kill me because it would draw major attention to their partner. Thats some tinfoil mafia thought process longshot and maybe me reading into staying alive too much when ive been absent for so long, but hey im putting it out into the world. I could also see Ace pulling off something like that too, but again I don't get as strong scum vibes from Ace as Dino (or the others for that matter)
Also Misty doesn't mention once the third possibility of why Tessa looks wolfy, which is simply newbie plays.
That said, after thinking it over, I'm still highly suspicious of Tessa for voting me, when they never spoke to me about calling them ominous. There was absolutely no indication that Tessa had even seen me say it, and I do not understand why Tessa would chose to reply to Anna but vote me, when Anna and I did the exact same thing. That's not something I can just file under "possible newbie mistake", it just seems like a very weird choice to me.
Do you mean the night after I did the snipe? I don't really know what you mean with the question but If you want to know how I felt : Well I was embarrassed and I felt like the worst player tbh so I wanted to apologize and give the reason for why I did that right. So I wrote that little explanation thingy right away. I was pretty scared for what people were gonna say the next day (tbh it is still pretty silent here). I did know for like 99% that I wouldn't be eliminated by the mafia at night tho because that would be stupid. Is this what you wanted to ask? If not please ask more questions! I'm gonna write my thought of everyone in a sec.
Let me start by saving sorry for not saying much yesterday and randomly voting Panda without giving any context. I panicked a bit at the end tbh and it would’ve been better if I didn’t vote at all.
The reason that I voted Panda was because I thought she was more suspicious than Tessa
was. I thought that the chaotic voting was a town thing to do especially because Tessa is a
new player and I don’t know if a new mafia wants to draw a lot of attention to themselves.
(funny of me to say that because I'm literally the most silent person here.) I didn’t think
Panda starting the questionnaire was suspicious. I did think the confident suspicion on
Tessa was a bit sus (as if she wanted to push Tessa). But we know now that wasn’t the
case. She had a bit of a harder tone to her, but that was just how she played then (I think
Toad said something about that too so I may had to think longer about that.) I wasn’t 100%
sure on both of them but at that moment I rather had Panda voted out than Tessa.
A few of you said that you were pretty confident that Tessa and Panda are w/w ( That means
not in the same team right?) Do you guys still think this and why so? I’m going to sleep now,
but I wanted to say this before going to bed.
so I'm gonna say it - I think this post is forged or severely scripted
1. It does not read like something a newbie would write and also stylistically doesn't follow Catharina's other posts.
2. Why is the second paragraph indented so weirdly? especially when Catharina has written posts before where the indentation just naturally carries over - seems like a copy paste
3. Things like w/w are also not things I expect a newbie to say
4. Timing - Catharina posted "awww " at 5:02 pm then this 3 minutes later. I don't really see how someone who quotes saying "English isn't my first language" in their RQS can type this honker of a post in 3 minutes with little to no errors...
No doubt Catharina knew her actions at the end of day 1 would be viewed as weird, so maybe she just scripted this in the meantime? but like... why not say that at first
Do you mean the night after I did the snipe? I don't really know what you mean with the question but If you want to know how I felt : Well I was embarrassed and I felt like the worst player tbh so I wanted to apologize and give the reason for why I did that right. So I wrote that little explanation thingy right away. I was pretty scared for what people were gonna say the next day (tbh it is still pretty silent here). I did know for like 99% that I wouldn't be eliminated by the mafia at night tho because that would be stupid. Is this what you wanted to ask? If not please ask more questions! I'm gonna write my thought of everyone in a sec.
hahahaha thank you for your answer - this kinda validates what I was thinking but wanted to see how you answered it. Thank you for being vulnerable and honest! I see this as very newbie town and helps me read you better
or you literally have someone telling you what to do lol and im getting duped
thetessagrace
Honestly I still don’t think she is mafia and I don't think she was acting very sus at day 1, but I can see why people find some things suspicious so I'm gonna lookout
If Tessa is mafia I bet she is very happy with me . Btw do you have any particular thoughts on the snipe/ on me ?
Ace Marvel ~I understand why he is voting me, but I obviously know my role and I know I am an easy target for the mafia, so I am gonna look out for who will be pushing me (Ace just understandably voted for me so I am not saying he is pushing).
Miss Misty~She hasn’t really said a lot, mostly just said that she was sussing Tessa at day 1 ( we didn’t really have that much info so I can understand just having a gut feeling to vote someone because I did the same). But I still think the “We will have to see” by Tessa wasn't sus at all? I did the same thing with “That is a good question” but no one was sus of that? I know that was day one though. Miss Misty what are your thoughts on Tessa right now?
Catharina266 ~only one I know for sure - town
DinoTown~ even tho she has long posts and some people say they are lengthy but maybe that's just how she plays? I am going to pay attention tho as I can understand how some people are getting more sus of her.
toadsworthy~I think toads posts have good points and don’t think he is sus at atm. It also helps that he isn’t really pushing me even though that could be done easily, but you never know ofc so I will still keep my eyes out
AnnaSt~I am pretty neutral. I am gonna wait for more posts.
I know this post is probably not so good because I’m rambling without giving really great new stuff and I don’t know anyone for sure yet, but I wanted to try to contribute a bit. I may do a more in depth one later. I'm gonna wait until i'm gonna vote just because I want a little bit more action going on but I will say my thoughts before doing so!
Miss Misty~She hasn’t really said a lot, mostly just said that she was sussing Tessa at day 1 ( we didn’t really have that much info so I can understand just having a gut feeling to vote someone because I did the same). But I still think the “We will have to see” by Tessa wasn't sus at all? I did the same thing with “That is a good question” but no one was sus of that? I know that was day one though. Miss Misty what are your thoughts on Tessa right now?
I'm still sus on Tessa. Her only reason for early voting Dino was a revenge vote (and she said as much) because Dino said she sounded ominous in the questionnaire, despite other people saying the same thing. Pretty much everything about her day one play didn't seem very town-oriented to me.
I think it's okay to give Catharina a pass for this bit simply because others have been using this term and explicitly explained its meaning in this thread. I agree with the rest of your comments about the post, but I don't think using w/w is a mark against her here.
Sorry I got caught up with the inauguration.
Something that is off with me is the Tessa doesn't get a newbie pass and everyone else does.
I'm not saying Dino is wrong, but I can see a slight tunnel.
Catharina I might reconsider, maybe, me being the king of town derp, I feel the last post was a little lamist. And Toad's theory that someone is coaching is not that far fetch'ed.
Misty's suss because of the OMGUS vote could be newbie, or could be again coaching.
I think Dino, Toads and I have entered the suss trifecta, but I don't feel comfortable voting for either of them, and if we don't hit mafia today, I think this needs to be solved tomorrow.
Out of Tessa, Misty, and Catharina, I have the strongest suss in Catharina.
Anna does not fit in my wolf worlds, so I think town.
I know what I did was looking very supicious so I understand why you want to vote me but I do want to ask: If I where mafia why would my mafia teammate want me to do a last minute snipe? That doesnt look great at all. Or is that some good strategie?
To answer this in a general way, mafia can do one of the following:
Use a member that is not being suspected to hammer (put the last vote) that player will have suss the next day, but it will be easier to hide the other members, because players will be looking at the hammer.
Bussing aka throw under the bus, player A is mafia, player B is mafia too, player A will vote for B, and if B is killed they will get town merit, because they voted to kill a mafia player. This works best in larger teams, but this game is a balance between new and veteran players, so I can see this in multiple scenarios, as a newbie mistake or a as a way of a protecting a more experienced player.
Hey everyone! Just so you know I am at school, and I'm quite busy atm. So I might have to vote last minute (today's been really busy), but I'll try to explain my vote and so forth, just know I won't be able to discuss much today.
To answer this in a general way, mafia can do one of the following:
Use a member that is not being suspected to hammer (put the last vote) that player will have suss the next day, but it will be easier to hide the other members, because players will be looking at the hammer.
Bussing aka throw under the bus, player A is mafia, player B is mafia too, player A will vote for B, and if B is killed they will get town merit, because they voted to kill a mafia player. This works best in larger teams, but this game is a balance between new and veteran players, so I can see this in multiple scenarios, as a newbie mistake or a as a way of a protecting a more experienced player.
Well thank you for the explanation I understand now! I do want to ask would this generally be used on day one aswell? would this even be useful this early in game? As mafia member A still has to survive the whole game then and you guys also know these tricks?
Well thank you for the explanation I understand now! I do want to ask would this generally be used on day one aswell? would this even be useful this early in game? As mafia member A still has to survive the whole game then and you guys also know these tricks?
Depends on multiple factors: number of players, number of mafia, who your mafia mates are, who the other players are and how well they know you, personal confidence in your own ability...
We do know all these tricks a mafia player might employ, the trick is knowing if they would or not. For example, I personally think it would be an insane move in this particular game and would probably bet no, no-one did this, but that just pulls the rug over my eyes if it was.
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As a general question to anyone who's looking, how likely are you to vote for Tessa? If there's no support for this wagon today I will likely switch my vote to Miss Misty or Catharina. As of yet undecided.
As a general question to anyone who's looking, how likely are you to vote for Tessa? If there's no support for this wagon today I will likely switch my vote to Miss Misty or Catharina. As of yet undecided.
I know Toads, despite currently voting Misty, is also sus of Catharina. It seems it might be a case of us just having to pick with of those three to go for first since most people seem down for any of them.
Well, I see people being sus of me & talk of a vote brigade on me and I don't have a ton of time atm because I have to leave like right after posting this, so I put my vote in. All I'm going to say is (& I mean everyone says it) that voting me is a mistake because I'm town. I may not be communicating the way everyone wants, but I'm trying to solve this thing with the way my brain works. Apparently it doesn't translate well to forum mafia, oh well, lesson learned. If I do get voted off, I hope people at least can read my comments as an inexperienced town with poor written communication skills instead of... however people are reading it, because I may be stupid but I am being genuine.
" at 5:02 pm then this 3 minutes later. I don't really see how someone who quotes saying "English isn't my first language" in their RQS can type this honker of a post in 3 minutes with little to no errors...
. Btw do you have any particular thoughts on the snipe/ on me ?
