I am heading off too. Ribbit did you want me to ask my question now (but won't be waiting for the reply so I won't find/post the quotes I need until whenever o'clock). I have reasons for not really wanting to bring it up atm though so I'd really rather not.
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TBH Betsy has me wanting to look at Unravel a little harder.
I am heading off too. Ribbit did you want me to ask my question now (but won't be waiting for the reply so I won't find/post the quotes I need until whenever o'clock). I have reasons for not really wanting to bring it up atm though so I'd really rather not.
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TBH Betsy has me wanting to look at Unravel a little harder.
What are some key slots that are on most sus lists AND would give info to help solve the rest?
I think tn4u would be one, with the d2 read wall we could look at and compare to dolby/others if red. Maybe thinking this way will help narrow down focus. I find myself with too many possibles.
Ribbit do you think trundle is one? Yoshi showing up to request a chop, lol. The inactivity could be rough late game, but also - what info would be gathered? Not much.
Definitely town:
- TN4U. The main reason is because of this post. I feel like if he was maf, he might have gone omgus, like Frosty says in the next post
- Ribbit. His reasoning for suspecting mafia members generally makes sense to me
- Frosty, for the same reasons as Ribbit
Least town:
- Radical. I still think it’s just a little weird that she never voted. If she doesn’t vote this eod, and especially if we manage to vote out someone who’s maf, then that will make me suspicious
- Trundle. I don’t think he’s really suspicious or anything, but he’s also accused me of being mafia for not posting despite also just saying that I haven’t posted enough for him to make a good read on me?? Sounds kinda contradictory, but I can’t say that’s enough to make him maf since he’s also played more of these than I ever will so what do I know
- Unravel. Also kind of suspicious how she was one of the only people that thought that everyone voting for Dolby was out of nowhere and yet he ended up being maf. But it’s also just as likely that she was just a townie who thought that it was weird for everyone to start wagoning Dolby
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Also, I know why radical didn’t vote, btw. I just think it’s a little weird.
Lily
The read is the first line. I do think Lily is towny. I was explaining that part because Lily is a weird state compared to other people I townread. I still think they're town.
i have mental issues that i deal with daily. im shy by nature. sometimes i have a hard time putting what im thinking into words that others will understand. if this comes off a wierd, im sorry.
i have mental issues that i deal with daily. im shy by nature. sometimes i have a hard time putting what im thinking into words that others will understand. if this comes off a wierd, im sorry.
Weird state = My understanding of your position is weird, not that your posts are weird ^^
Sorry if it came off that way.
It's like I have read some of your posts as wolfy but then the overall conclusion I come to is towny. So it's a weird mix of reads on you, hence my statements earlier about wolfreading your posts but townreading you.
Weird state = My understanding of your position is weird, not that your posts are weird ^^
Sorry if it came off that way.
It's like I have read some of your posts as wolfy but then the overall conclusion I come to is towny. So it's a weird mix of reads on you, hence my statements earlier about wolfreading your posts but townreading you.
Definitely town:
- TN4U. The main reason is because of this post. I feel like if he was maf, he might have gone omgus, like Frosty says in the next post
- Ribbit. His reasoning for suspecting mafia members generally makes sense to me
- Frosty, for the same reasons as Ribbit
Least town:
- Radical. I still think it’s just a little weird that she never voted. If she doesn’t vote this eod, and especially if we manage to vote out someone who’s maf, then that will make me suspicious
- Trundle. I don’t think he’s really suspicious or anything, but he’s also accused me of being mafia for not posting despite also just saying that I haven’t posted enough for him to make a good read on me?? Sounds kinda contradictory, but I can’t say that’s enough to make him maf since he’s also played more of these than I ever will so what do I know
- Unravel. Also kind of suspicious how she was one of the only people that thought that everyone voting for Dolby was out of nowhere and yet he ended up being maf. But it’s also just as likely that she was just a townie who thought that it was weird for everyone to start wagoning Dolby
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Also, I know why radical didn’t vote, btw. I just think it’s a little weird.
Weird state = My understanding of your position is weird, not that your posts are weird ^^
Sorry if it came off that way.
It's like I have read some of your posts as wolfy but then the overall conclusion I come to is towny. So it's a weird mix of reads on you, hence my statements earlier about wolfreading your posts but townreading you.
i mean how a new player reads versus an old one is something to keep in mind, not to the point of trundle but how you approach a game will be different
btw are you still reading in day 1? or did you jump around and make it further?
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also idk how it’s done on here, but if cop is alive would we let them lead a vote around eod tomorrow or no
Saying "Cop softed to me" is not a good way. It's better (Esp as cop) to CLAIM cop with a check and try to convince people subtly that you're fake-claiming.
The awkward thing is I did actually tmi that I was cop (specifically said I was most worried about RB the most out of PR rolls and wanted them out that night and it was a 1/3 chance). :v TBH I thought everyone had saw it by the time I said vote Dolby, so never alluded to PR and only did because Betsy said she thought Dolby was cop and I was like huh???
Definitely town:
- TN4U. The main reason is because of this post. I feel like if he was maf, he might have gone omgus, like Frosty says in the next post
- Ribbit. His reasoning for suspecting mafia members generally makes sense to me
- Frosty, for the same reasons as Ribbit
Least town:
- Radical. I still think it’s just a little weird that she never voted. If she doesn’t vote this eod, and especially if we manage to vote out someone who’s maf, then that will make me suspicious
- Trundle. I don’t think he’s really suspicious or anything, but he’s also accused me of being mafia for not posting despite also just saying that I haven’t posted enough for him to make a good read on me?? Sounds kinda contradictory, but I can’t say that’s enough to make him maf since he’s also played more of these than I ever will so what do I know
- Unravel. Also kind of suspicious how she was one of the only people that thought that everyone voting for Dolby was out of nowhere and yet he ended up being maf. But it’s also just as likely that she was just a townie who thought that it was weird for everyone to start wagoning Dolby
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Also, I know why radical didn’t vote, btw. I just think it’s a little weird.
It is a very nice read list! I totally agree with Radical. Also, you can feel completely safe about me (if you're town ), I am already out as the game's cop so I'm 100% confirmed town.
Anyway. So I've been thinking I intend to lay low for the rest of the day, half because it's Saturday tomorrow and I have plans to go out and genuinely need to take a break from thinking about this game (nights are no break time jhfbsfbks), and half because I'd rather not give framer clues about my headspace. I'll pop in if I wanna ask people for thoughts on their logic and to vote ofc--maybe sheep vote or something IDK. Will also bring up the thoughts on Trundle.
You can iso member:dolby and put a different name in the search box. So like, member:dolby, search term: trundle (or whoever). It helps narrow down what he posted irt that specific person as far as reads t/w, wagons, etc. Doesn't catch everything, but does catch a lot and it's quicker.
You can iso member:dolby and put a different name in the search box. So like, member:dolby, search term: trundle (or whoever). It helps narrow down what he posted irt that specific person as far as reads t/w, wagons, etc. Doesn't catch everything, but does catch a lot and it's quicker.
ofc i see this after i snagged all of the quotes manually
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betsy i found what u mean since unravel’s iso is so short methinks and i would like to ask you first if you think trundle saying bussing was a slip or not
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if the answer is yes i’m just gonna have to agree to disagree with where you’re going with this and leave it at that :’)
betsy i found what u mean since unravel’s iso is so short methinks and i would like to ask you first if you think trundle saying bussing was a slip or not
Simplest way to put it-
Trundles eod actions are all wolfy (bus thing/check me/tmi/also the stuff d2 re dolby).
But! There is a something i saw d3 that makes me believe trundle is town.
However - if at any point in this game trundle flips wolf, then I'll post the screenshot i snagged of the post because that would make me wrong and switch some of my reads. I'll leave legacy before eod in case i croak. I'll try to figure out how to word things. Ugh.
If my theory on trundle is wrong, will feel so, so dumb.
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The unravel foil is unrelated and a really remote chance. I feel better about trundle. But that's if I'm reading things right.
Town
Jacob4
Frosty
Volt
Trundle but he might be mafia with TN4U
Tbh most of my mafia reads at this point in the thread come to "this person is kind of lacking content within their posts". I could see myself voting for quite a few people
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Is there a single person who townreads Mogyay or Zinnia? I've seen multiple reads lists where they are the two listed mafia
I feel that Zinnia and Mog are kinda just serving as easy places to dump suspicion on when like, they’re just guilty of having posts that are lacking in reads in my opinion. I wouldn't be surprised if either flip mafia, heck I could vote Mog tbh, but like, seeing a lot of people just dumping sus on the two of them
yes I know that Zinnia shouldn't be townreading so many people at this point in the game, but I just don't view that as very mafia indicative frm a first time player, and yes, I know that Zinnia is activiely posting at the moment, this is more about the people wolfreading them than their content itself
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What do you think that people's reactions mean for Mog herself right now
I backread a bit and I think Zinnia is mildly town, in that I feel that their process and reasoning for their Mogyay sus is believable and natural.
Anyway as for Ribbit, I look at this point and I kind of just think that this reasoning is just following the thread consensus? Heck, TN4U had the exact same wolf reads a few posts before Ribbit made their own reads
And I look at the above post and it's just like, you are sussing people with three posts at the start of the game because yes they have empty posts but that isn't the end all be all.
Like, I made a point to call out the referenced Zinnia post since I felt (at the time not currently, I now think it's a NAI post that imposters could push on) it was a towny post that wolves would use to push on if Zinnia was completely new. I'd be a bit more critical if Zinnia was like "idk I don't have any reads" but I think it's perfectly natural for a new player to feel that everyone is fundamentally fine so far, and it has definetely shown in their worldview throughout the whole thread since. ribbit kinda just hasn't pivoted on their reads at all, which I think is kind of an indictment of them when Zinnia is looking better the deeper I go into the thread, and Volt is looking towny to me at the point of time where they say this.
It would be fine if Ribbon had more read progression on Zinnia (Mogyay hasn't provided enough) but they just don't?
Then I look at the post below and I have thoughts on it. I felt that TN4U going after Annika for saying weh was overlyaggressive and definetely made me feel weird about the slot. Ribbon just brushes me of. It feels like Ribbon already decided that they were going to townread TN4U and that they were going to keep townreading TN4U and nothing is gonna change that. This goes with my earlier thoughts about Ribbon potentially pocketing TN4U
Also going to say, I found unravel's posting here. It did not impress, more consensus townreads from another shot, I am fine with Trundles vote there.
I would really like more from @mogyay I do feel like your suspicions are the two people who kinda got on the "mogyay and zinnia sus" bandwagon last and I need more from your slot to fully read you for you, rather than read you from the space around you.
Another thing, I'm seeing a lot of people townreading yoshi. I don't think that Yoshi is sus but i'm not seeing any reasons to townread Yoshi yet tbh.
I like radical6's big post outside that townlean
Idk maybe I tunneled and washed, but like, this is just giving Frosty what she wants to hear.
I feel pretty meh towards Betsy's ISO on Jacob4. I like that you are doing it but Jacob townreading me for my skepticism towards me is pretty towny imo. Granted guy hasn't been in thread for a while
Yeah really not understanding all of the Yoshi townreads. Up to a proper read of 275
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Re-upping this
I backread a bit and I think Zinnia is mildly town, in that I feel that their process and reasoning for their Mogyay sus is believable and natural.
Anyway as for Ribbit, I look at this point and I kind of just think that this reasoning is just following the thread consensus? Heck, TN4U had the exact same wolf reads a few posts before Ribbit made their own reads
And I look at the above post and it's just like, you are sussing people with three posts at the start of the game because yes they have empty posts but that isn't the end all be all.
Like, I made a point to call out the referenced Zinnia post since I felt (at the time not currently, I now think it's a NAI post that imposters could push on) it was a towny post that wolves would use to push on if Zinnia was completely new.
It would be fine if Ribbon had more read progression on Zinnia (Mogyay hasn't provided enough) but they just don't?
Also going to say, I found unravel's posting here. It did not impress, more consensus townreads from another shot, I am fine with Trundles vote there.
I would really like more from @mogyay I do feel like your suspicions are the two people who kinda got on the "mogyay and zinnia sus" bandwagon last and I need more from your slot to fully read you for you, rather than read you from the space around you.
This whole post is super suspicious to me and I feel the need to break it down on a post of it's own separate from anything else I am doing. If you read one part of this post it should be the last paragraph within this post merge
The first part with Zinnia is fine.
The second part I'm going to be more generous than I would like to be towards. This statement when you think about the whole thread holistically with regard to what a wagon, is basically saying to no elim when there is, in Ribbon's view, a wolf between Mog and Zinnia. But eh, I don't have a perfect view of the inside of their head. No elim bad.There's plenty that comes later in this post.
Third part in response to me with regard to Mogyay, this is where the hairs on my neck raised when I read this. In my eyes, the statement is trying to have it's cake and eat it to. It's handwavey, and flipflopping. It's saying that, yes people are bandwagoning on Mogyay and that may be towny for her, but at the same time, those people might be town more comfortable pushing someone not around. Let me stay in the same spot with regard to my progression on my reads thanks. It's a really weird noncomittal thing to post that I think is mainly serving as an attempt to get into my good graces with agreeing with me about the push towards Mog without committing to any action that lets up the pressure on her.
fourth part fine
fifth part: yeah I'm just not meshing with this. I think that the logic that you used is really just a rehash of logic used by other people and is just sheeping teh thread, and I do think that the specific highlighted Zinnia post is one that mafia would be tempted to use against a new town very frequently
After the merge I just don't really like the appeal for town to not vote people out, but it also is kinda saying to me that the slot doesn't want to commit to reading people. That this slot doesn't want accountability for how it reads people and what it says in the thread.
The last bit kinda just blew my mind and I'm surprised that no one else even mentioned it but it's "cop is kinda useless". Cop's checks have like a 85-90% chance of being right. I think that Ribbon has a guilty conscience and is worried about being inspected, so he wants to cast doubt at a cop beforehand. And before anyone says anything, there's a difference betwee saying cop isn't the end all be all and that the cop is "kinda useless"
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ignore that my post is copied twice in my analysis of Ribbon's post #278. I am still trying to figure out new TBT If you read any part of this post please read the last paragraph. I'm comfortable with my vote staying there
based on how dolby treated me i’m not sure i would fos tn4u at all in light of being on a dolby team. not understanding yoshi trs is something he says directly about my townreads later, which makes me feel better about yoshi, radical feels out of nowhere and later he mostly dodges talking about her slot in length, no elim talk makes me think thread consensus was not talking about mafs at all. again i just don’t know how to feel about the unravel interaction here
I've read all the stuff since I left thread last night and I kinda find all your posts since then nullish, though I do think that there is a good chance that Zinnia's sus on Trundle isn't an OMGUS since I don't think Trundle ever sussed Zinnia? That is definetely one of my points of interest towards Zinnia.
no and she still hasn't. though idk i haven't played with her in years. Towniest thing about her in my eyes is how the push on her in thread gained steam.
Like I’m fine with lot of the rest of your worldview but I feel like that’s news to me or maybe I’ve just been skimming your posts to much. I think the thread state around Trundlea Mog read makes trundle likely town but since you’re one of the effected players with your Mog push maybe you feel different
idk i just don’t like how he’s latching onto trundle
and also is this implying mog is wolf? i’m staring to get a vibe that dolby is willing to lightly wolf read partners if they fall into view but not care enough to go into bussing them
Trundle... doesn't isn't towncore imo but he is pretty town. Skimming right now mainly, but he feels unagendad in the thread, and I feel like he's town from his posting on it's own, I feel like he's town from the behavior of the thread surrounding him. He isn't beyond reproach but I think the man is a crewmate.
Ribbit's posting since last night has been generally fine if not townish and I think he is still the most sus player in the game to me. I think that there's a few slots that he probably isn't on the same team as (zinnia, TN4U). With that said, posting since last night just also does not feel like a town posting to me if you get what I mean with these two statements.
There were three wagons and 0 major driving agenda in anyone’s EoD yesterday INCLUDING TRUNDLES. I take this back if anyone wants to say that Zinnia softed VT at some point.
I did exactly nothing overnight and I get home in 6 hours
Betsy’s notes aren’t good besides I guess the teams that are on the side. With that said, I got a good vibe reading her posts, and I feel like she was solving me. In particular her post ISOing me was good (also she wants me to be evil so bad lol)
Literally no one did and it was painful. Every single convo about ribbit, which wasn’t mog and zinnia calling him sus before I did without much elaboration , had to be prompted by me. That said I think that EoD wagon formation makes him look townier than he used to. I would still be willing to vote him out though.
Yeah I kinda wanted to see what you would say if you thought the person you voted was green checked. I guess I like your quick reaction but didn’t give me much
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Yes that’s the point, no one cared about you or my case on you until I forced an opinion out of them.
I think that the way Eod indicates wolves weren’t here or didnt or went. Which implies v/v wagons or evils weren’t here. I kinda think that’s a point in Ribbits favor bc while she was not a major wagon, she was kinda close to that status, even if not in danger until Mogs vote like 5 minutes before eod . With that said, the start of Ribbits wagon contains town, and idk about Mog and Dinosaur. I don’t think imposters were looking to vote here, especially with how much effort it took to direct attention to Ribbit.
I think I’m townier on Ribbit than yesterday but no way am I townreading them
Ness you really need to read start of game I feel that your worldview on how the wagons formed is pretty off
Ribbits now abandoned Trundle was bussing unravel take is super weird and I kinda think that that comes from a wolf that wants to capitalize on the opportunity to push town!Trundle while keeping the option to wolfread unravel open. The take also doesn’t really make sense since I think it’s pretty clear that Unravel was like, the second most likely person to be voted out since no one but me was happy with Ribbit as a push.
Volt and Frosty feel like town posting today
Betsy’s EoD vote is weird from her: of all the people who didn’t play TBT mafia back when I used to play it, I view her as the least likely to go off the major wagons onto a vanity wagon at the end of day, and yet she did. I think it’s a really bad look if Unravel/Ribbit are v/v though I guess it could actually be teamed with Ribbit since she did say (thank you for providing these quotes Betsy) that she was mildly sus of him and I think that makes a vote on unravel to protect him look weird but at the same time I’m not informed enough on her zinnia and unravel eod1 takes. And yes I know she has said she felt off about all three wagons but at the same time I think town her knows that a wagon on Trundle is unviable and her best option at the time is to chose a wagon (almost certainly Zinnia for town!her) that does the least harm. The thing that I am actually more certain of and don’t need to investigate: this is going to come off as super egotistical but I think that Betsy doesn’t want to TR me, hasn’t wanted to TR me from the beginning, and had been wanting to doubt my slot. I think she wants to keep me in PoE and keep me out of any town core
Ness TN4U was not a major wagon lol
Tbh I kind of want to call Shiny a bit town for the sheer level of contrarian most of his takesarw
Annika is not a wolf with unravel but could be with Trundle based on my reaction test
Volt and Betsy I’m sorry I ignore your talk but getting anyone to even consider or talk about Ribbit felt like I was pulling teeth about of peoples heads. I think that the circumstances of how the wagon went down makes him less of a sure thing than I thought yesterday, but I still think a lot of what he has posted is wolf shaped and that if we exclude content that I created or forced into existence on him, he was kind of just… not exactly ignored but his slot didn’t get the attention that it should have
I unfortunately think digging to deep into the low posters EoD votes is useless unless one of Ribbit/unravel flips w, and Ribbit flipping w would only help Dinosaur look green
Ok maybe I’m wrong on Betsy wanting to not townread me, 809 is a very good process post and feels pretty pure.
Annika’s eod1 take on Trundle is uninspired. I don’t like it, it ignores crucial context about Trundles participation in the unravel wagon. Also not a good reason to call Betsy towny. Like she is calling the right post on that page individually towny but for the wrong reasons
Tbh Shiny post 845 is a banger and that slot is towny
I do not like the now multiple slots that did nothing to save Zinnia calling the Zinnia wagon bad. both on a game and personal level.
Unravels d2 posting has been towny
Betsy 862 the hedge of all hedges on unravel, Trundle/unravel isn’t a plausible world
Ness townreads ribbit I am in pain
Trundles d2 posting is even townier than his d1 posting
TN4Us wall is to painful to read I’m skipping it and coming back to it tomorrow
Kinda remembered that Ribbit was TRing me until I wolfread him. Bad look for the slot >thought i’d add that this is a lie wth
Ok the wall has “the town” in it, that might be all I need to know tbh. Ness you know I know why
Betsy’s worldview in 919 feeels SOOOO OFF from the worldview she had as mayor when she caught me and Dan a year ago
Trundle had a bit in 930 that isn’t a mindmeld but I kinda of like. Specifically calling Annika’s reads sheeping his own reads. I like this an to extent and think it’s kind of true since it feels that Annika was following eod1 consensus reads.
RIBBITS TOP THREE SCUMREADS ARE THE PEOLLE WHO VOTED HIM LMAO
I think this is a joke but if it isn’t it’s actually outting, particularly the inclusion of unravel
my energy is gone see ya
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@FrostyAlmonds AMA I cannot read more than three posts at a time and this is the only way I can help solve before I crash
k i’m starting a notice a trend in that he comments more on people i tr in a negative light so i think the focus on his interactions should be the shorter ones he has less of an opinion of
Man you’re jumping a lot between saying the wagons were v/v/v and holding perspectives that require unravel to be mafia.
if you think Mog’s vote was sus, might I remind you that she had you as sus before I started posting about you.
But also like, you can’t seriously think that the entire mafia team was voting for you?
I guess the idea that I was pushing you to protect Mog who was getting pressure is intriguing, but come on. It was rapidly becoming thread consensus that the Mog push was bad bc of the way you and TN4U joined in on it.
Dude is in his town era. I guess there’s room for error but he’s like, one of my most confident slots. I like his d2 posting so much coming from him with how I remember him.
I cannot believe Daniel would lie to me like this smh. I thought the votes in the eod list were chronologically ordered. Alright I gotta go for work for fr but the take of maf votes piled on ribbit to save unravel does not sit right with me
Lily has instantly become the fascinating slot in the game for me. I can’t really say much beyond that besides that I don’t think she’s teammed with Ribbit or trundle(or if she is with Trundle she is being fed lines directly by him but I don’t really believe that)
Betsy I need to talk to you about your reads list. Who in the your reads list is wolfy to you? Am I wolfier than Trundle Ness and TN4U? Is Frosty wolfier than Ness and me? I don’t understand your deepwolf placements
I think the prospect of a cop checking Frosty is low but to the meat of it, I don’t think it’s wolfy for Radical to call out someone putting themself as a potential wolf on principle. Frostys reaction is super over the top
Anyway I intent to, when I get home, make a post with commentary on every ribbit ISO, featuring only the ISOs he has made
Today
trying to figure out where i should be looking into next
trying to sort people
Dolby
Trundle
ShinyDungeoneer - yes really this high
Volt
Ness
Frosty
Unravel - like her posting a lot today
Mogyay
Kinda just feel like I don't have enough in this group
Dinosaur
lily
yoshi
Betsy - Kinda feels like she hasn't really been solving teh game on day two. Looking at her day two posts it feels like there's no town spark and she's looking to get townread more than find imposters
radical6
TN4U
RibbonRibbit - really need to dive deep back on him. On one hand there are a lot of players she is not aligned with and I need to think of what teams can take place. On the other I just think that this slot is wolfy and I do not see why there are so many townreads directed from so many places.
Annika
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Frosty hi, Day Two seems like it's gonna be a low energy day for me but I am here
i’m most interested in how he placed dino in wolfy radical yoshi and tn4u down there without a written explanation
doesn’t tell me much though considering annika is down there and i doubt her being a wolf
Frosty I don't think I like how you engaged with Radical on it. I don't believe that it was a slip but I felt that you were overdefensive and that town!Radical could plausibly point something like that out
The only reason I have radical low is there have been a few posts where it felt like she was afraid to give an opinion. Dig them up. With that said, I do think that your "trap" is something that catches mafia. I think it catches people who are inclined to think that someone including themselves on a readslist that isn't top town is sus. A few years ago it would have caught both town Dolby and mafia Dolby
Frosty I skimmed 1/2 of Radical's ISO and I do not think that that one post about Ribbit and the preferred vote out order was TMIing Ribbit. idk if there's anything else you saw as TMIy
Real talk I actively do not think that it is Volt. A couple years ago I played a few MU games with Volt, I occassionally interact with them on my wolfia server and talk about mafia to. This feels like how he approaches the mafia from those games and I didn't get the sense that the overall approach changed that much from talking to them
no but i did spec a game with volt wolf and they felt way less directed and far more "look at this fun idea!" than they do in this game if that makes sense
wait what is that bolded portion of the quote? why is he townreading me if he thinks I'm doing that lmao. that's like. he thinks I'm deciding teh night kill
me quietly signaling to the mafia to kill me tonight because i have all four of them dead to rights and the imposters must be ejected, but im teh right kill for them and I must help them to.
if i am getting the right sense of it dolby disregards this as a joke/mistype and brushes it off like my read list of him with mog trundle and unravel so since tn4u didn’t elaborate i would guess tn4u is town again. like idk ik i had this thought since the beginning of the game, i only really changed it bc i thought ness was cop and had tn4u maf but it was an inside joke.
Tbh I’m kinda just whacked at the wagon on me. Frosty joining seems super random and a lot of the behavior of Frosty over the past 24 hours really makes me want to reevaluate her. Annika seems to just be floating around and doesn’t have a full view of the game if town. Lily just doesn’t to be a fan of how I’m engaging with her so I guess fair but still not a fan of that vote
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Wanted to see if how Annika would continue reacting and if all the people in the game Trundle seemed most likely to cop check Unravel in that moment
I don’t have strong reasons to townread the other two peollr with multiple votes but I’m working so unfortunately I’m not making another case today Betsy
I am dedicating the next 25 minutes to a Dolby AMA idk if Frosty is mafia who went insane or I got framed but I’ve known since start of day that Trundle is town since I saved him
small interaction between dolb and mog
my wolf!read list is not shaping well today so i’ll just null this and move on for now but it’s in the back of my head
Well she kept me from getting an item in my last game here so as far as I’m concerned she’s the entire wolf team
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Betsy probably is a wolf though. I very much feel like her priority is to be townread when I read her posts. Ribbit I still think it’s you and I’m questioning if you picked up on Frostys softs because you framed me for pushing you yesterday and were hoping cop would check me as checking me gives a more reliable difference check than checking you would
Simplest way to put it-
Trundles eod actions are all wolfy (bus thing/check me/tmi/also the stuff d2 re dolby).
But! There is a something i saw d3 that makes me believe trundle is town.
However - if at any point in this game trundle flips wolf, then I'll post the screenshot i snagged of the post because that would make me wrong and switch some of my reads. I'll leave legacy before eod in case i croak. I'll try to figure out how to word things. Ugh.
If my theory on trundle is wrong, will feel so, so dumb.
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The unravel foil is unrelated and a really remote chance. I feel better about trundle. But that's if I'm reading things right.
ok i think me and frosty (i’m assuming we had the same idea but maybe we had 3 different ones) came to a completely different conclusion about what you were talking about
that said i have no idea what you’re talking about here and will be interested in hearing it later when u wanna bring it up
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this iso just brings me back to my main thought wondering if there is a maf in volt and trundle bc a lot of these interactions more prove people are town to me than wolf
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wait betsy i just saw you said the unravel tinfoil is unrelated
i just disagree there it’s why i asked about the trundle bus slip
Unravel. Also kind of suspicious how she was one of the only people that thought that everyone voting for Dolby was out of nowhere and yet he ended up being maf. But it’s also just as likely that she was just a townie who thought that it was weird for everyone to start wagoning Dolby
I kept saying Im from SG its basically the opposite timezone and during eod thats like 2AM to 6AM and I can go online around 6:50 AM cuz Im on the way to work
Also at really this point I dont even think Trundle!mafia and there is no way Trundle/Dolby team. Unless its fhe only way for Dolby to bait us thinking Trundle is town
Only reason why i see trundle/tn4u (before dolby flipped) in early days because TN4U keeps agreeing with trundle then suddenly backs out of nowhere and plus I might be wrong cuz i didnt make much effor iso-ing cuz of conflicts. Im much comfortable voting Tn4u than trundle and if tn4u is green I apologies for that
Omg.
I did a whole post w/quotes from your iso ribbit, then lost it. I don't understand why switching certain pages clears out my reply. It's aggravating.
We had similar thoughts - quote below links to my dolby/trundle/tn4u post d3. I put it in spoiler.
idk i just don’t like how he’s latching onto trundle
and also is this implying mog is wolf? i’m staring to get a vibe that dolby is willing to lightly wolf read partners if they fall into view but not care enough to go into bussing them
Light reading can distance. Be interesting if his bw on you was to get rid of mog wagon, lol. But i think the mog was fizzled by then? I cant remember.
This is always a concern. If tomorrow afternoon doesnt have people coming in to influence eod at all, it'll feel like we're wrong.
Other things - i missed where dolby was bringing ness back into the tunnel!
Explains so much. Poor ness.
Part of my dolby trundle theory (aside from pocketing) is that dolby started bw on town, pushed em, then a different bw next day. Could have influenced det check by making 1 person look bad in order to frame them.
All the trundle linking could have been a way to frame trundle when dolby croaked.
Im out for the night. Back tomorrow afternoon. Busy morning irl.