Ok bestie im texting and driving at stoplights but something on mind: after you made your Ribbit sus did literally anyone talk about it other than me, bc I think there’s something there if that’s true
Literally no one did and it was painful. Every single convo about ribbit, which wasn’t mog and zinnia calling him sus before I did without much elaboration , had to be prompted by me. That said I think that EoD wagon formation makes him look townier than he used to. I would still be willing to vote him out though.
You make a good case for ribbit, but I'll have to go through it all. I see how ribbot has some wolfy takes - however! Even tho I disagree with those takes, I've seen town with those samecrappyno elim opinions(trent). It's the great debate that happens d1 and everyone gets sick of it.
I can kind of see where ribbit is coming from re the pr. I disagreed that 'cop is useless'. Just a bit more of a challenge with godfather/ framer. It's hard for me to tell if ribbit just has a defeated kind of outlook and depends on pr reports, or if it's more of a wolfy thing going on to push town to no elim and take the pressure off maf. It takes me forever to read thru and type, so I'll do it tomorrow. I always re-eval everything well before eod anyway.
So a big push for a player (dolby on ribbit) could be actual sus and ribbit is maf. But could (supertinfoil) also be an effort to redirect attn away from a maf partner who is headed toward elim.
When i come back later i want to read thru and see if i can find inconsistencies, quick read switches without reason, mirepresentations, overly quick agreements, etc. Fresh look from the top.
The only additional thing i saw that was a ribbit sus is the repeat of not reading things. First off - I spend a lot of time on myvogon poetrywalls. It's like, required reading!
Fr tho- the repeat of not reading seems a good way to excuse mistakes later.
I was comfortable with my susses. Was going to vote one. Now I'm here at eod, reading, questioning everything. Ugh. I have to vote someone.
@Dolby Do you still have trundle strong town? Has your view on ribbit changed?
dies n1 wait why?My PC was dead, so I wasn't able to read the thread until very late yesterday. By the time I did, D1 was basically over and there was nothing I could contribute. So I decided to skipvote, catch up, and share my reads D2. I was hoping Zinnia would somehow survive the voting, but then I remembered she would probably die N1.
TN4U's defense post on me wasn't due to inexperience. It was due to everyone calling me out (and Ribbit's watchlist), plus the fact that I was busy catching up, so it wouldn't make sense for me to vote someone. By the time I finished, voting was over and Zinnia was dead.
As for examples of Ness's and your read, I'll compile those into a separate post (once I remember which ones they were, this thread is moving too fast)
damn put some words in my mouth would youNo, i was saying you were asking about it, not saying it. In other words, you were asking for someone to confirm whether you should change your vote. As in "tell me what to do, swear you are confident it's this person, i can't decide and i need someone to help me decide".
Very sorry if it came across any other way. You were asking about whether or not you should change your vote.
Ness called it out as odd (not direct quote). But Ness did the same thing asking trundle to confirm it was unravel.
Take this as a sign I still haven't read everything lol, good point though. I had it in the back of my mind that of those three yesterday (Zinnia, TN4U, Ribbit) that TN4U is probably the most outlandish in hindsight.Strongest maf read, I don't want to talk about it quite yet because I'm still wrapping my head around if this is a stupid bad tinfoil or not. But I still am not satisfied with TN4U, and despite what Ness was saying, I don't think I caught this easy bandagon on him considering he didn't even get a single vote outside mine. And if we're talking newbie AFKs, obviously Dino.
Poking above, I just think the Dino vote was insanely random after having two whole posts the entire game and my tinfoil is currently revolving around them being told to place the vote there.
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Like legit if they didn't know what to do, I would expect them to no elim like Lily and Shiny
i didnt even find unravel suspicious, i just voted them bc trundle asked me to lol@annika get back here!
I know basically nothing about how you are looking at the game besides that you find unravel sus and ribbit slightly towny before eod1. Can you change that for me?
damn put some words in my mouth would you
but fine since you are just using me as argument to go for your ness tunnel ig. why did you sus jacob again?
i think i asked this to someone already but didn't get an answer but: if there is a need to blitz there is a need to save someone, so one of the wagons should be mafia. zinnia is vt and you wouldnt say yourself is mafia so do you think unravel is mafia? i might want to flip her today just because of this but idk it seems too easythis isn’t for you specifically. i don’t think you’re mafia if that’s a looming thought.
my eyebrow was raised at the fact several people came back and voted without prompting. especially the people who voted actual people. this includes yoshi, dinosaur, and zinnia.
i wouldn’t put it past the mafia to ping their partners to blitz a vote last second. i was staying aware of that possibility and writing names down.
Annika I am begging you what are your readsi didnt even find unravel suspicious, i just voted them bc trundle asked me to lol
?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????i didnt even find unravel suspicious, i just voted them bc trundle asked me to lol
lmao sorryAnnika I am begging you what are your reads
Dude this is anti town ngli didnt even find unravel suspicious, i just voted them bc trundle asked me to lol
yeah it is if youre townDude this is anti town ngl
Lol fair. I was seriously tripping when I looked at the voting results yesterday and ws just like, 'Was Ness trying to bait something from me or what'? I'll be honest that I didn't really pay attention to what TN said yesterday when he was back around EoD time. But from what I understand he still hyperfixated on Zinnia for literally the one line so. I am looking forward to his views with that green flip.Take this as a sign I still haven't read everything lol, good point though. I had it in the back of my mind that of those three yesterday (Zinnia, TN4U, Ribbit) that TN4U is probably the most outlandish in hindsight.
girl whatyeah it is if youre town
@Yoshi155 why zinnia?
I did realize that it would look kinda suspiciously if I switched to vote Zinnia at the last second. But the reason I did it was because I felt like it would be better than voting no elim since she probably would have been voted out anyway. Also I wasn’t sure how many other people would vote no elim and I didn’t want to end up accidentally causing us to vote for no one if a lot of people did choose it.Step one. I wanna analyze the Zinnia voters. I have every reason to feel someone from maf jumped on this wagon because it was too easy a frame.
Ok progresslmao sorry
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i think trundle is town ...?
betsy also seems townie on this page
I think I had ribbit town for some reason but I rescind that read
also frosty is very townie !!
Sadly part of me really thinks mafia wont vote for Zinnia because its an obvious downfall for them. Theyre trying to lowkey atmI did realize that it would look kinda suspiciously if I switched to vote Zinnia at the last second. But the reason I did it was because I felt like it would be better than voting no elim since she probably would have been voted out anyway. Also I wasn’t sure how many other people would vote no elim and I didn’t want to end up accidentally causing us to vote for no one if a lot of people did choose it.
Uh????yeah it is if youre town