Mafia Call the Ships to Port: Game Thread - END GAME - TOWN VICTORY!

If we mislynch twice scum wins so I think scum would be pushing for a mislynch not no lynch.
Now they win if we mislynch one more time
 
i can't read any of their reactions to nightpost solely because the bitterness clouds any sort of perception

i think its notable that hayden was apologetic and self-blamey while evan/amanda displayed some variation of ~annoyance~
 
i can't read any of their reactions to nightpost solely because the bitterness clouds any sort of perception

i think its notable that hayden was apologetic and self-blamey while evan/amanda displayed some variation of ~annoyance~

I agree that Heyden seems the most genuine and has played the best out of the three of them but he's been universally townread the whole game and he's not confirmed or anything so he's really gotten a free pass if he is scum
 
Vanessa but still scummy but I really don't know if the things she's done up until this point would be something she'd do as scum
 
I think Ghost/Antonio are still town. I’m mixed on Ryumia so I’ll have to look later. Panda as well, I only townread her bc she was the first to actively sus Tom but idek
 
Dad=99.9% town since he was actively pushing the no lynch over Trundle and tried to convince Kammm to vote someone to avoid the MK.

iLoveYou=I don't know with her man, but I feel as if she would try and lynch Trundle as scum and that is basically all I have. She also suggested NLing so that is kinda town.

N e s s=confirmed town and someone is probably going to say "wow ness putting urself as conf town so scumm u~u"

Vampnessa=The first person to suggest we do No Lynch. I like that. She has things about her that are still suspicious but I don't think she would be doing the things she's done this game as scum.

glow=Only person I can remotely see as scum on the wagon because she put off her 2 votes that could have saved Trundle until the very last second when Trundle had 6 votes. scum glow would know that Trundle was already down and out so she could have just put her votes on Trundle for the easy towncred.

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and just saying i don't think Kermit is as scummy as you think she is glow. I agree with you on what you're saying but I genuinely just cannot see what she is doing as scum. I'll wait and see what she tries to say on D5 about her role and then I'll make my judgement on her.

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and just saying i don't think Kermit is as scummy as you think she is glow. I agree with you on what you're saying but I genuinely just cannot see what she is doing as scum. I'll wait and see what she tries to say on D5 about her role and then I'll make my judgement on her.
 
I TRY THAT WHEN BLUESNIPING IT DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK

But yeah, it's just not as blatant for me. When you look at that ****in' bandwagon. You need to understand why the bandwagon needs to be focused on for Day 5. Or I could just repeat myself: mafia doesn't care about boldly bandwagoning a mislynch when all they need to do to win is get one more mislynch but we have to lynch correctly four times in a row, and the odds of that happening with 15 players still around is difficult.

i'm really interested to know what it'd take for you to scumread karen.

like i can't make her post anymore. i can't make her react to anything that's happened in the game

i can't talk about her interactions because she hasn't made any

i can't talk about her reads because she hasn't outed any

i can't talk about anything except the circumstances that exist and her behaviors during them.

the fact that she even felt the need to AtE me for townreading her as mafia in a separate game is so triggering. she's done nothing towny, and i fos'd her slot due to mog before she even came into the game. the ONLY reason to say something like that is to make me cast doubt in my own reads without actually providing a real reason to do so.

i misread people all the time and i'm not sure why it surprises anyone
 
This. I don't think mafia cares about losing one of their own at this point so that rush to get Trundle mislynched for friggin sure has mafia in it. 2-3 of them at least. When it brings town to lylo in a game where 4 mafia are still alive, I doubt they care about doing some risky bandwagoning.

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Oh and Evan and amanda acting like they need a break as a means to probably coast through posting anything during the night? Don't like it. I stand by this being AtE.

With the first part, agreed. Bringing the game to LYLO asap has got to have been the goal for them, that's beyond clear now.

For the second part, fair enough assumption on your part, no question. I needed to take some time away from the game to try and clear my head to stop me from getting caught up in the negative wave I was feeling - I was so sure Trundle was Mafia and seeing that flip sent me reeling. I was too stunned by the outcome to even begin to move on to being able to contribute anything.

So ya, the AtE charge is valid. There's some irl things I would have had to do anyway (family calls for Easter, sleep, evening plans with partner), but my main reason for leaving when I did + being gone so long was definitely needing to regroup mentally.

I had zero intention of trying to coast through the entire night phase, but since I didn't specify that when leaving, the assumption I meant to do so is again, entirely fair.

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To conclude : I've played poorly and helped land us at LYLO when there was no need for us to be here.

I made the wrong call in keeping my vote on Trundle instead of switching to No Lynch. Duh. That's such an understatement it would be laughable in other circumstances. An apology seems almost insulting at this point, but I am very sorry for my actions and the consequences.
 
I don't see how seeing Trundle flip seemed more upsetting to people than the game-changing Punchy flip and I didn't see the sheer AtE over that I'm seeing here, ijs.

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i'm really interested to know what it'd take for you to scumread karen.

like i can't make her post anymore. i can't make her react to anything that's happened in the game

i can't talk about her interactions because she hasn't made any

i can't talk about her reads because she hasn't outed any

i can't talk about anything except the circumstances that exist and her behaviors during them.

the fact that she even felt the need to AtE me for townreading her as mafia in a separate game is so triggering. she's done nothing towny, and i fos'd her slot due to mog before she even came into the game. the ONLY reason to say something like that is to make me cast doubt in my own reads without actually providing a real reason to do so.

i misread people all the time and i'm not sure why it surprises anyone

Again, it's purely on the fact that Karen has become kinda Cory-like and is one of those people I can see screwing a game over by playing dumb, whereas the people with actual content that are also sus have already said what they had to say and have something to read into, and it's not good. I feel like there are people both above and at her level in terms of sus and she's a more risky one because of that. Again, lets see what happens at the beginning of D5.
 
Scum all leaving to have a party and celebrate their victory?

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OOPS I POSTED THE WRONG QUOTE FOR AMANDA

Lol I wish. Though tbh as high as the stakes are, I'm not sure Mafia would even be celebrating at this point. I mean, a scum win is the most likely outcome at this point by a long shot, but there are still a lot of variables in play. And with so many experienced players still alive + active, along with the (many, apparently) Blue roles, I think they've got to be more focused on getting that 2nd ML than on partying.

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I don't see how seeing Trundle flip seemed more upsetting to people than the game-changing Punchy flip and I didn't see the sheer AtE over that I'm seeing here, ijs.

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Again, it's purely on the fact that Karen has become kinda Cory-like and is one of those people I can see screwing a game over by playing dumb, whereas the people with actual content that are also sus have already said what they had to say and have something to read into, and it's not good. I feel like there are people both above and at her level in terms of sus and she's a more risky one because of that. Again, lets see what happens at the beginning of D5.


I see your perspective, but I think you're not considering that

- this ML happened after the Punchy one and is thus more de-moralising, and
- this ML literally put us at LYLO, a state of play that came about as a direct result of Punchy's ML.

We wouldn't have had the escalation in tension and stress and AtE imo without those factors. But the game happened how it happened and we can't fix anything done, just try and make the right plays now.

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I know but, the Trundle lynch was inevitable, whether it was today tomorrow or the day after imo

I have to say I agree. That's part of why I was so determined to keep my vote where it was, coz I just could not see a way he'd *not* be lynched and giving him another cycle to do who-knows-what just seemed like exactly what he wanted from those final posts of his before EoD.

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I'm still working out where to put my focus now. Obviously I need to do new reads, but they're going to be posted EoN4 /start of Day 5.

Given how flipping wrong I've been so far (well right about Kammm but reading obvious NewTown as obvious NewTown is really not an accomplishment under the circumstances).. I need to start from scratch.

We definitely need to be more strategic in how we handle D5, no matter what we do. Idk what the best approach would be, that's not the kind of thing I'm good at working out with this many variables to consider.
 
That's a lot of rationalized defense for an emotional reaction.
 
tomorrow is massclaim imo. or just lynch karen or evan idk

I don't think roleclaiming will do anything. At this point we definitely need to look more at the person and their actions rather than what they may or may not be. Karen's "claim" to be blue saved her, while Trundle's claim of VT didn't. It's not working for us.

Also why are you focusing on Evan specifically ? That bandwagon on Trundle was big and we have more chances of lynching mafia if we don't target one person the way you guys went hard after Trundle. But ya, Evan, amongst the others, won't slip by this time.
 
I wont be on tomorrow because of my phone getti getting turned off because data is the only way I can get on here so ill be back monday afternoon
 
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