Mafia Call the Ships to Port: Game Thread - END GAME - TOWN VICTORY!

[Heyden]

Can you all calm your Tatas on who we lynch

Heyden just ruined my plan so the panda and Heyden info wagons are no longer an option

Stop mindlessly saying "we're lynching x!!!" without atleast providing some kind of reason. I'm guilty of this and if we keep spouting baseless accusations then paranoia is just going to run rampant. I'll analyze every player in the game who is remotely suspicious tomorrow

oh oops sorry
I was just gonna play along but I thought you legitimately thought I was scum and that would’ve ended horribly later on so I didn’t continue with it rip

whatever
a shopkeeper tho, come on

 

[amazonevan19]

heyden acting like he got something notable out of panda when he just got some worthless flavor is lmao worthy

 

[Heyden]

also ghostkid I love how ur the only one who knows my avatar wowie

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heyden acting like he got something notable out of panda when he just got some worthless flavor is lmao worthy

um do you srsly think she’s survivor. she was pressured to claim non-VT bc of what I said imo

 

[Geoni]

I don't mind the reaction testing (although it could be a cma moment if Panda did flip plain old survivor), but why harp on the shopkeeper thing?

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If Heyden flipped mafia it would make me reconsider Amanda given Amanda and Panda were the ones he was looking at before the reaction testing moment.

 

[Ghostkid]

also ghostkid I love how ur the only one who knows my avatar wowie

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um do you srsly think she’s survivor. she was pressured to claim non-VT bc of what I said imo

Ur telling me it actually was a tomichaogachi?

 

[Geoni]

also ghostkid I love how ur the only one who knows my avatar wowie

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um do you srsly think she’s survivor. she was pressured to claim non-VT bc of what I said imo

But she denied that she had an action so what's the difference between a non-action survivor and a VT in light of your accusation that she visited someone? In other words l don't see how you can argue that your reaction testing pressured her to not claim VT given she didn't claim a power role.

 

[Heyden]

But she denied that she had an action so what's the difference between a non-action survivor and a VT in light of your accusation that she visited someone? In other words l don't see how you can argue that your reaction testing pressured her to not claim VT given she didn't claim a power role.

Are you opposing her lynch?

 

[Geoni]

Are you opposing her lynch?

Explain how what you did pressured her to specifically not claim VT if you're gonna argue that.

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tbh I kinda townread you because of your stance against Karen but if this was a traitor situation you wouldn't have known that she was on your side so it couldn't be considered bussing in a situation like that. Also I think Tina would deny such a request to be modkilled.

But this really feels like a scumslip. People are going to say I am hardbussing here but I also find it interesting that instead of addressing what I brought up you walk right around that potential discussion to ask if I am opposing her lynch as if you read my post as indicative of me voting for you and scumreading you. But I seriously just want an attempt at rationalizing what you just said because it wasn't something I could rationalize myself.

 

[Heyden]

Um my ‘role’ implied her claiming VT would = scum. Ofc there’s too many blues so she’d either claim stupid blue if scum from the pressure or VT if she was actually town cos Panda’s that type of person. I don’t think her claiming survivor is a coincidence.
Plus if there was a possibility of third parties I feel maf wincons would at least show thaT.

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I kinda explained it if you read my posts and you turning on me kinda pissed me off so I’m a little PA rn

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in retrospect that sounded pretty fake lol

 

[Geoni]

in retrospect that sounded pretty fake lol

That I actually angered you?

 

[Heyden]

That I actually angered you?

yes
maybe I’ve become used to being townread bc I haven’t been mentioned all game tbh

 

[glow]

Can you all calm your Tatas on who we lynch

Heyden just ruined my plan so the panda and Heyden info wagons are no longer an option

Stop mindlessly saying "we're lynching x!!!" without atleast providing some kind of reason. I'm guilty of this and if we keep spouting baseless accusations then paranoia is just going to run rampant. I'll analyze every player in the game who is remotely suspicious tomorrow

dad is actually mafia and i said why idk what else to tell u man

 

[Geoni]

All you really said was that I defended Karen and that you think you were right that my big posts early in the game = scumtell. If I could get my head out of my ass so can you glow.

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Um my ?role? implied her claiming VT would = scum. Ofc there?s too many blues so she?d either claim stupid blue if scum from the pressure or VT if she was actually town cos Panda?s that type of person. I don?t think her claiming survivor is a coincidence.
Plus if there was a possibility of third parties I feel maf wincons would at least show thaT.

But there's a difference between blue and yellow if said yellow doesn't claim to have a night action, and that was my point, and that's the point I still haven't seen you rationalize in a coherent manner.

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Also if your role implies that her claiming VT would = scum but you also say town Panda claiming VT is something you'd expect of her then idk what you are trying to argue here.

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If I could get my head out of my ass so can you glow.

Then again you know how to shove it really far in there don't you?

 

[glow]

All you really said was that I defended Karen and that you think you were right that my big posts early in the game = scumtell. If I could get my head out of my ass so can you glow.

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But there's a difference between blue and yellow if said yellow doesn't claim to have a night action, and that was my point, and that's the point I still haven't seen you rationalize in a coherent manner.

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Also if your role implies that her claiming VT would = scum but you also say town Panda claiming VT is something you'd expect of her then idk what you are trying to argue here.

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Then again you know how to shove it really far in there don't you?

why are you AtE'ing ME

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honestly my reads this game have been decent

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rule 1:

defending mafia isn't a scumtell

rule 2:

defending mafia in a roundabout way is a scumtell. you left yourself an exit strategy and now you're trying to take it.

yeah sure you can argue that you didn't explicitly say "i townread karen", but i think it's worse that you didn't say it though it was clearly implied in several posts you've made.

it's pretty clear when you're appealing to the masses that "A and B are gonna be mislynches, speedlynch on X/Y/Z" that you townread A & B.

 

[Heyden]

But there's a difference between blue and yellow if said yellow doesn't claim to have a night action, and that was my point, and that's the point I still haven't seen you rationalize in a coherent manner.

I didn't mention her having any actions in my initial soft until she claimed though?? All I implied was that if she was VT she's scum for a 'reason I won't state'. It wasn't until she claimed Survivor that I asked about her 'action'. I really don't think there's third parties in this game, and if there is it would probably be hostile explaining Kermit's death.

Also, Nevine the friendly shopkeeper. I know role flavour analysing doesn't work anymore cos hosts realised it was kinda rigged, but seriously, a friendly shopkeeper. It sounds like it's from a Hello Kitty mafia or something.

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why are you AtE'ing ME

honestly my reads this game have been decent

xD

 

[glow]

also big posts =/= mafia. i've never said or implied that. i just said your wallpost was the scummiest thing on d1.

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I didn't mention her having any actions in my initial soft until she claimed though?? All I implied was that if she was VT she's scum for a 'reason I won't state'. It wasn't until she claimed Survivor that I asked about her 'action'. I really don't think there's third parties in this game, and if there is it would probably be hostile explaining Kermit's death.

Also, Nevine the friendly shopkeeper. I know role flavour analysing doesn't work anymore cos hosts realised it was kinda rigged, but seriously, a friendly shopkeeper. It sounds like it's from a Hello Kitty mafia or something.

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xD

throw back to when i was literally begging you to vote karen teehee die a horrible death plz ;3

 

[Geoni]

why are you AtE'ing ME

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honestly my reads this game have been decent

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rule 1:

defending mafia isn't a scumtell

rule 2:

defending mafia in a roundabout way is a scumtell. you left yourself an exit strategy and now you're trying to take it.

yeah sure you can argue that you didn't explicitly say "i townread karen", but i think it's worse that you didn't say it though it was clearly implied in several posts you've made.

it's pretty clear when you're appealing to the masses that "A and B are gonna be mislynches, speedlynch on X/Y/Z" that you townread A & B.

And I clearly stated that I found the people I suggested CFD for to be clearer than those two, and I townread Trundle a lot more than Karen, I just had a gut feeling she could be pulling something stupid and I wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt that she was blue and had something she was actually doing, thus I didn't scumlean her enough to be convinced to pull away from No Lynch during that last hour rush.

And as for the big posting, the only concern with it was the effort for a d1 situation but I always put effort in d1, and how some of them were observations that can be seen as filler, but said filler turned out to be useful for some moments later on so w/e.

And I'm appealing to you but the emotion doesn't have much to do with it. Just a little bit because I'm pissed at how I was probably wrong for a good 4 days.

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I didn't mention her having any actions in my initial soft until she claimed though?? All I implied was that if she was VT she's scum for a 'reason I won't state'. It wasn't until she claimed Survivor that I asked about her 'action'. I really don't think there's third parties in this game, and if there is it would probably be hostile explaining Kermit's death.

Also, Nevine the friendly shopkeeper. I know role flavour analysing doesn't work anymore cos hosts realised it was kinda rigged, but seriously, a friendly shopkeeper. It sounds like it's from a Hello Kitty mafia or something.

Most of the roles are job positions from what I can tell. We can argue why friendly shopkeeper isn't straight up town but at the end of the discussion surrounding your rxn testing of Panda that is what you clung to and one of the things I find slippery.

But to answer an earlier question, despite airing some recent thoughts on you, I'm still not opposed to a Panda lynch if it has the potential to clear you in the situation that she does flip maf and you were on the right side of this situation, because I do agree that going for Survivor in general is panicky and something I've seen maf do a few times. And again it's what coasty mafia tends to do.

Also Survivor won't count as a mislynch at all and if it does Tina is ridiculous. They're inherently fenceriders and their potential to be able to side with mafia via voting when the numbers are right is why they can't be counted as town.

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Amanda you've legit been lurking for like 4-5 hours.

 

[Heyden]

Mog didn't really post much but I think her posts should be somewhat telling. Didn't write much bc no one will read walls lol plus I'm lazy.

is voting locket any different from voting antonio though? like to me they're both lumped in the same kinda category. i dunno i'm aware of wagons but at the same time i'm not really sure who to vote for

This was someone suggesting to lynch Locket instead of Antonio, obv she didn't care enough whether either of them were lynched, and considering Locker (Vanessa) is 99% town, I think Antonio is too based on the fact was happy to lynch either of them.

ok so blah blah sorry for being away, busy schedule, did mention before the game started but can't blame anyone for criticising me, ANYWAY

the last game i played w fireninja was mystic messenger AND OH BOY, he basically just created so much confusion for town so ye, sure, i know it's def in his town meta to stir crap but i'm worried he's acting so cryptic bc we can chalk it up to 'oh that's just fn for you', voting punchy was confusing as hell, and i know someone said i sounded forced but i still stand by the fact that scum is going to hide behind voting first bc it usually is a move used by town, he still doesn't even bother explaining himself, his post responding to all his accusations done nothing to explain his behaviour. i don't really mind his post on ryu, but it does feel a little weak just focusing solely on one player who aside from being a little vague isn't all that scummy to me. where are your opinions on other players? you tell ryu to formulate their own opinions but then end your post telling people to give you names who you should focus on.. i dunno, i'm getting weird as hell vibes from fireninja, kinda like he's trying to recreate a meta but backs away from this when he's getting sus.

antonio, kinda similar to what people have said but generating useless content, promises thoughts that never came. i don't mind people being inactive bc that would be called being a hypocrite but promising content that doesn't come is slightly worrying.

locket, isn't she usually a little more active than this? content feels a little forced 'let's move on', advising punchy not to derail the game, i agree with both comments but obviously interjecting your own opinion on these situations would be helpful.

^^^^ same can be said for oath, i don't think i've ever played with him before but doesn't he have some stronger content out by now (ALSO GOD I KNOW I'M SUCH A HYPOCRITE BUT to be fair at least i'm always inactive)

null on kate but i am a little disappointed, i thought she might be one of the more active players, started off being jokey which did feel a little forced but can't really blame her since mafia is a weird environment but now that we haven't heard from her again it feels even worse

ok that's my initial thoughts from skimming, now time to actually read the thread with a little bit more depth, don't think i'm gonna promise full reads tbh bc the player list is really big and i'm not used to these kind of numbers but i really wanna look into ness, honestly feel bad even saying that but still find his general reaction to things just really weird. also tom bc strange as hell defence

dolby, hayden and jacob are town to me rn

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i'd be fine with antionio lynch unless he actually comes through with his promised thoughts (as long as they don't seem forced) but ye until then i'd prob be fine with voting him

EVERYONE with the exception of Antonio (ok and kind of me) has been confirmed town so far, which makes me believe mog was obviously trying to distance herself from her team mates. I'm pretty sure she's somewhat good friends with Tom, and her not mentioning him AT ALL is kinda telling she was avoiding mentioning them. And again, more anti-Antonio posts, making me townlean him even more.

yep i'm also not ok with a ryu lynch, seems typical for them judged on past games (albeit i've only played with like once or something), i think i might go for dedenne i guess. in regard to their team mate defending them.. they may as well just join in tbh, defending any of them at this point would be kinda weird. it's not nice lynching inactives but what more can we really do

AVOIDED RYUMIA and placed her vote onto Dedenne. This kinda makes me more wary of Ryumia but her blue soft before was kinda making me townread her the whole game, so I actually sort of want Ryumia to claim tbh.

As of now, I'm pretty sure Panda is scum, with Dad and Amanda? iLoveYou or Ryumia maybe? idk it's POE at this point but if Panda's not scum then nani tf

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But honestly props to scum, I seriously can't believe that the remaining scum are in Dad, iLoveYou, Ryumia, Amanda and Panda, literally all my townreads except Amanda.

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Also just thinking about Kermit's death, I can confirm it wasn't me, so it's either Dad or Ryumia.

Vanessa - Doctor
Ghostkid - Nurse
Ness - Vote Gifter
Evan - Bodyguard
Fireninja - Innocent Child
Glow - Will Writer

Heyden - ???
Panda - "Survivor"
Amanda - Townie
Dad - ???
Antonio - Townie
Ryumia - ???

If it's you Dad I kind of wish you would just confirm or deny it so we can stop wasting time sussing you.

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I lowkey feel Ryumia or Amanda has to at least be scum bc Locket/Punchy/Kammm/Ghostkid/Dedenne/Kate/Antonio/Gigablesh all being town would hurt no offence nubs lmao

 

[Geoni]

Denying responsibility for that death. Also I might as well claim since there's only like three of us who haven't. Lucero the Octopus Catcher (Townie)

Also looked back at Ness' roleclaim to check on why people feel Evan is 100% clear and I suppose he really is, since I don't see how mafia could somehow also be a bodyguard for a townie. But damn have he and Vanessa rubbed me the wrong way this entire game. Glow too. And while I can agree on the Antonio point you just made, that could also be distancing but if so it was really early in the game, but I still kinda townread him the most out of the people that can't be confirmed or aren't mostly clear.

 

[Heyden]

Okay so it was Ryumia???? Or did Kermit die from mafia time bomb? Honestly I have no idea why Kermit would die.
Can mafia use KP on themselves?
Or Panda is Serial killer.