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Mafia Death by Design: An Animal Crossing Mafia [day2]

@Mog I mean yeah it's possible mafia could do that but given how hardly anyone pays my "first to vote" tell any mind I highly doubt that mafia really even cares. Given site meta every game I've played the first to vote has been town, and I'm rolling with it. It might change later but who knows life is a mystery

Also it's not just that I see his vote as town like, but also because his thoughts align with most of mine rn? Idk but I like what he's saying and he reminds me a lot of how he played in franchise wars as well
 
@Mog I mean yeah it's possible mafia could do that but given how hardly anyone pays my "first to vote" tell any mind I highly doubt that mafia really even cares. Given site meta every game I've played the first to vote has been town, and I'm rolling with it. It might change later but who knows life is a mystery

Also it's not just that I see his vote as town like, but also because his thoughts align with most of mine rn? Idk but I like what he's saying and he reminds me a lot of how he played in franchise wars as well

Was tryna catch some sleep but decided to check the thread. Anyways, I'm a bit confused at the last part. He was scum in that game and his playstyle is here reminiscent to that game, but you think he's town here? Can u clarify pls?

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Was tryna catch some sleep but decided to check the thread. Anyways, I'm a bit confused at the last part. He was scum in that game and his playstyle is here reminiscent to that game, but you think he's town here? Can u clarify pls?

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Ebwop: *here is

Oh well like he reminds me of a recent game he played? Wasn't sure if it was franchise wars or not, Mystic Messenger maybe? By idk when he's Town he usually acts all aggressive and straightforward (also blows things people say out of proportion with CAPITAL LETTERS PIKE THIS!!!) and I'm seeing that a lot this game
 
I haven't been able to catch up yet, I just got home and I've been busy this entire week so that's why I haven't been here. Awful lot to read here so I'll catch up now.
 
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kallie
Chick
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Seroja
Sej
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Zendel
Tom
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ITookYourWaffles


Ex. Null, weak town read, strong town read, weak scum read, strong scum read.

I hate having so many people as null, D1 is just very difficult to get proper reads on people. Trundle is null due to lack of posting, I'll need to see how he contributes from now on to form an opinion (his posts since he started posting are having me town lean him though, nothing is off). Sej is null due to lack of posts also, I know this is his first game though. I'm not going to scum read people D1 just for being inactive.

I have kallie as strong town read, probably my strongest at the moment, it's pretty obvious, she's probably contributed the most out of everyone and seems like she's really on towns side, she's done nothing to make me think otherwise or even doubt myself at all. Good posts, thought provoking, really helping, just exuding strong town player imo. Toad is also town for me, I've played a few games with him at this point and everything just strikes me as regular town toad, nothing to make me think otherwise yet. I agree with pretty much everything he's said and brought up so far.

I've put Chick as scum lean, although when I think about it I'm doubting myself here, reading over what she's said and the things people are scum reading her for honestly just seem like newbie moves, I look at how I played as town when I was new and I made a lot of the same mistakes (such as pushing for a NL), I'm sure if she really was maf and had experienced players on her scum team they would have explained to her not to say that? Experienced scum know not to push for a NL, then again she isn't experienced, so I don't know. The aggressiveness, attempting to strike people's emotions, "threats", they all make me have that doubt - that doubt that she could be scum after all. I'm just not sure, people jumped on her so early, of course she's going to get defensive?

This is a difficult one, because I'm finding it hard to read amazonevan19, but I feel the way he's been getting defensive, as well as what I mentioned before on his case on Chick, as well as slight flip-flopping, nothing really sits well with me here. I agree with toads post below regarding Evan;
I still feel he has some sort of agenda to each of his posts (besides the ones where he exploded on me which I also found scumminess in) and feel more confident voting for him over chick rn.
Everything seems to be calculated and over-thought, and not in a helpful town kind of way.. in more of a devious way honestly. At the same time he comes across a good player, and I always find it hard to read good players when they're scum.

Everything seems good and townish with Seroja too, there's not one thing that's made me thing "she's town!" but just everything in general gives off a town vibe, based on previous games with her too (although I have badly misread her before..)

Tom is also a slight scum lean, although I was hovering over this for a while, he's really hard to read. I mentioned it before, when someone is costing, better still, self-proclaimed coasting, it's going to be very hard to get a word out of them or form an opinion. However, this one post here;
I mean if you guys really want to Lynch me, by all means go for it. It would just be a wasted Lynch, especially since the few times I've been a survivor I'll always leaned more heavily to helping town (Xeno maf for example). I get that claiming right out the gate is kinda sus and probably something Scum!Tom would do but like there's no real point in keeping quiet about it. Worst case town or scum shoots me, best case I get to coast to the winners circle.

Is confusing to me, you're going to coast, but you still make a "defense" of sorts stating how lynching you would be a wasted lynch? I know it's nothing, I just find it very slightly odd. It seems like something mafia would say to make sure they get an extra day, y'know? If you've always leaned more to helping town, why don't you do that instead of coast by, if you're really town? The mention of "Scum!Tom" in ways to convince people you're not scum this time doesn't sit well with me either.

I'm really torn on ness, half null / slight town right now, but I find a lot of the way he's been acting for such an experienced player to be off, he was really quick to "write off" Evan so to speak just after he made one post that he agreed with? Then back-tracking to say he didn't write him off? I need to look into him a bit more because this is weak reasoning, he's just not completely exuding town to me, some things are off, I see ness as someone with strong reasoning (based on previous games) but that seems to be a little missing here, not sure it's scummy though.

mog is town lean for me too, she's been contributing and adding her points, everything seems on point but nothing too clear so I don't want to be quick to fully town read her. I agree with a lot of the points she has made so far.

ITookYourWaffles. Half null because I'm unsure. Half weak scum read because of the dismissive tone when answering the RQS, very non serious overall? yet still seems to be helping town by popping in with questions every-so-often. Have you played any other mafia games here, if so which ones? I'd like to read up on your play style a little bit because I'm not sure if I'm reading into things that don't matter just because I'm not aware if this is how you usually play or not. Zendel also half slight scum read, he was very quick to get the RQS out and answered, but he's been very quiet since then? It was a good start but the sudden decrease in activity from him strikes me as off, what mog said here pretty much sums up why I'm scum leaning him slightly for this. In what I've seen from him, he's usually out spoken, accusing people, getting defensive, ect., this nothingness is unusual.
also im kinda used to seeing zendal call ppl out, i know he posted earlier but only to say the thread is dead, didnt really contribute much

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Right now, I too would also feel more confident lynching Evan over Chick, from everything I've said. However, if Chick is lynched and flips town then my eyes go straight to Evan, if she flips scum then my read on him changes.
 
Then don't sign up at all, ffs, I just had to hold back so I don't get banned again

It aint for u tbh its for the op and some ppl who wanna start the game asap luh

If u dont wanna get ban again then stop being salty about it this is like second time some ppl even ****post memes and talkibg nonsence then why cant I? Just a Friggin game not like ull gain anything for it
 
Posting a reads list, plenty to write about right now which is weird it was a ghost town the last time I posted.

I'll get started now, expect it to be out in the next couple of hours. :)

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Crap, the links for each player isn't in the OP. Get to it! Make our lives easy, please and thank you.
 
Crap, the links for each player isn't in the OP. Get to it! Make our lives easy, please and thank you.
this, I probably would have a decent(ish) reads post up by now if I (a) wasn't so lazy busy and (b) I could actually evaluate people's posts without having to scroll through 15+ pages for each person.

with that being said, yeah I have been pretty defensive this game but I don't get why people are saying I'm unhelpful. effs whatever maybe I am

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this, I probably would have a decent(ish) reads post up by now if I (a) wasn't so lazy busy and (b) I could actually evaluate people's posts without having to scroll through 15+ pages for each person.

with that being said, yeah I have been pretty defensive this game but I don't get why people are saying I'm unhelpful. effs whatever maybe I am
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When I say "not in a helpful town way" I don't mean that you're not helpful, you're clearly active and not just ****posting and imo, anyone active and contributing is helpful. I just mean I don't read you as town is all
 
Oh ok. Gotcha.

I have a crackpot theory that Toads/Ness could be scumteam. Typing this while on my way to school so I'll elaborate later, but I'm only decently confident chick is scum now and she can't be scum if my theory had truth to it

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Oh ok. Gotcha.

I have a crackpot theory that Toads/Ness could be scumteam. Typing this while on my way to school so I'll elaborate later, but I'm only decently confident chick is scum now and she can't be scum if my theory had truth to it

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Are you sure that crackpot theory is because Toad put pressure on you earlier? Nice, OMGUS.

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is = isn't?
 
Are you sure that crackpot theory is because Toad put pressure on you earlier? Nice, OMGUS.

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is = isn't?
How is it OMGUS when he hasn't even elaborated on it yet...?

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Zendel who are you suspicious of again?

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Zendel who are you suspicious of again?

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Zendel who are you suspicious of again?
 
Are you sure that crackpot theory is because Toad put pressure on you earlier? Nice, OMGUS.

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is = isn't?

I mean let's hear him out on what he has to say first, but I mean I would like to know what made him go from voting for chick to this. Besides my actual case on him and voting for him, which he seemed to avoid talking about earlier today when it happened
 
How is it OMGUS when he hasn't even elaborated on it yet...?

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Zendel who are you suspicious of again?

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Zendel who are you suspicious of again?

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Zendel who are you suspicious of again?

I'm still working on my reads list.

I find it odd that he thinks Toad could be scum especially when Toad has been grilling him the most. Looks like "OMGUS" right now, I feel as though he will pull things out of his butt to put any kind of suspicion on Toad and putting you into the mix because you town read him is a way to make it look more plausible because I don't see why he would throw someone under the bus if they town read him, I must missing something here.

I don't see it right now,just pointing this out here until he does elaborate because I predict it won't be anymore than OMGUS right now because of what I currently think about the Toad vs Evan interaction.

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Which I will dive into in my reads.
 
I'm still working on my reads list.

I find it odd that he thinks Toad could be scum especially when Toad has been grilling him the most. Looks like "OMGUS" right now, I feel as though he will pull things out of his butt to put any kind of suspicion on Toad and putting you into the mix because you town read him is a way to make it look more plausible because I don't see why he would throw someone under the bus if they town read him, I must missing something here.

I don't see it right now,just pointing this out here until he does elaborate because I predict it won't be anymore than OMGUS right now because of what I currently think about the Toad vs Evan interaction.

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Which I will dive into in my reads.

Just realized how gross that typing is, whatever.
 
I'm still working on my reads list.

I find it odd that he thinks Toad could be scum especially when Toad has been grilling him the most. Looks like "OMGUS" right now, I feel as though he will pull things out of his butt to put any kind of suspicion on Toad and putting you into the mix because you town read him is a way to make it look more plausible because I don't see why he would throw someone under the bus if they town read him, I must missing something here.

I don't see it right now,just pointing this out here until he does elaborate because I predict it won't be anymore than OMGUS right now because of what I currently think about the Toad vs Evan interaction.

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Which I will dive into in my reads.

Do you think that Toadsworthy is town? And do you think Evan is scum?
 
Based Kirby for the win. Thank you.

All right here it is.

Toad was the first person to lightly press chick in thread. I followed up with a post about how I didn't like the phraseology. Ness then posted about how the motivations behind the post are suspect, and townread me for thinking along his lines.

Toad has been busy picking fights and sussing me for a lot of the thread. Ness has spent his time sussing chick and giving me passing kudos here and there. I see a sort of "good cop/bad cop" sort of thing going on, with scum!toad trying to bait me and scum!ness being rather agreeable with me, so if I get lynched and flip town, one or the other would have less sus on them.

In other words, I think the interaction (or lack thereof) between Toad and Ness is deliberate, because they're actively taking opposing stances and avoiding interacting much to NOT get pegged as a team.

But wait, Evan! Isn't this OMGUS?

Not really. For one, I am terming this a crackpot theory for a reason - I think it has a low probability of being true. But I'm throwing it out there because it could be true, and it could help explain some recent behaviors.

Secondly, I'm FOS'ing both Toad and Ness. Ness has been one of the thread's only "defenders" of me, and most people rn are (justifiably) scumreading me. If this was just a pure OMGUS without substance, why would I want to sus my biggest proponent, at risk of people saying "Ness/Evan is a team"?


So what does this mean for chick?
If my theory is correct, chick is innocent and toads/ness are taking the opportunity to beat up on newbie mistakes. I also jumped on those mistakes too, and so why not try and take me town while they're at it? If chick flips town then I could easily be made a scapegoat by toad/ness. The fact the thread seems widely ok with killing her means maf may be ok with it too. Hence my waffling on chick, despite her scumminess.


Ohhh I bet you waited to post this because you were checking it with your maf buddies first!
Think what you will, but I came up with my idea while driving to school, and as I speak I am typing this out in class. :p Hence the delay.
 
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