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do you consider yourself a feminist?

would you say you're a feminist?

  • yes!

    Votes: 101 47.2%
  • no

    Votes: 71 33.2%
  • not really sure tbh

    Votes: 42 19.6%

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"no i'm not a feminist but i support equality for both genders" so... you're a feminist.
stop acting like it's a dirty word, it's not. yeah there are people out there that take it to an extreme level that sometimes hurts my head and is way way out there (especially on tumblr... i try not to go too deep on that website anymore) but in the fine print definition of the word that's what you are.
 
"no i'm not a feminist but i support equality for both genders" so... you're a feminist.
/snip

No, I'm completely for equality in every way and I'm not a feminist, nor do I appreciate being told what I am.

When it comes to a social movement such as feminism, it is represented by the vocal majority (that being third-wave feminism and suchlike, based on what i see daily). I honestly don't see how you can identify as/consider yourself a feminist yet separate yourself from the main part of modern-day feminism. To me that's like saying "I'm a christian, but I don't believe that Jesus died on the cross or anything, I don't believe in all that in the bible, nor do i follow Christianity at all or go to church, but I'm still a Christian !!!"

I know feminism isn't comparable to a religion, I'm just tired of this analogy of feminism = equality, just based on the definition, even though almost everything about recent feminism shows differently.
 
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I don't consider myself a feminist.

I'm 100% for equality of the sexes, in every aspect, however, I disagree with such a massive proportion of modern-day/third wave feminism that I don't see it fitting to associate myself with that movement when, in general, my thoughts don't align with said movement. "If you're for equality, you're a feminist" I don't agree with this, feminism, especially the vocal majority of modern feminism, is not to do with equality at all, it's a rather corrupt social movement that you can choose to align with, or not, and I choose not to.

I applaud all that feminism has done for women, in the past, and present. There was an absolute need for feminism "the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes." in the west in the past, and still currently in a lot of countries. However, I don't believe the type of feminism that gains the most traction nowadays is helping anyone at all, it's not helping women, it's not helping men, it's not achieving "equality", it's creating issues where there are none.
what abt it is it that makes u not want to b part of th movement?? :0
 
I consider myself a feminist and detach myself from the vocal extremists. Everybody I know understands what the words feminist means, the only people I've come across who misuse it are those on the internet or ocassionally, on the news.
Feminism does mean equality. Just because some people misuse it doesn't take away from that. Just as extremists in religion don't take away from those who follow that religion. They don't stop calling themselves Christian/Muslim just because of the extremists we hear about.

As for feminism being a dirty word - well it is for many people. Again, because of the extremists. It's a shame really, many people don't want to associate theirselves with that word.
 
what abt it is it that makes u not want to b part of th movement?? :0

I think modern day feminism as a whole is very flawed. I don't want to be a part of a movement that I see as flawed, I don't think it's helping anyone, it's pretty toxic and is becoming nothing more than complaining and creating issues where there are none.

The constant complaining about trivial things, the vocalisation of these trivial issues over actual issues; like, I see people complaining about nipples on instagram, sexy video game characters, gender roles, "man-spreading", the wage gap, camera angles, the "patriarchy", and so on, on the daily but I never seem to see people bring attention to issues such as FGM for example, and have often seen self-proclaimed feminists laugh in the face of mens issues, I think that's common part of third-wave/internet feminism, which is feminism. There's not really any point in listing the issues I have with feminism, I think a lot it is pretty clear, whether people who call themselves feminists distance themselves from the "extremist" parts of the movement they don't like or not, it's hard to deny that that is what people think of when they hear the word "feminism", that is feminism today in most places, sadly.

When it was needed here, feminists would be out protesting actual issues of their time, take the suffragettes for example, now people just seem to say "I believe in equality, I'm a feminist" without ever actually doing anything, and I don't see the point, I don't see the need. You can be for equality without associating yourself with a corrupt movement. The whole MRA vs feminist vs anti feminist drama is so trivial, all of it really is just so trivial and I'm tired with it, I don't want to be a part of it.

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Ye sure.

It has a bad rep - but I think if you let something like that stop you from being a decent human being, then that says quite a bit about yourself. /snip

Are you saying that if someone doesn't label themselves as a feminist then they aren't a decent human being.....?
 
Are you saying that if someone doesn't label themselves as a feminist then they aren't a decent human being.....?

I agree here (and with how you feel about everything else), theres no price or cookie being given to decent people, it should be common courtesy. And to be honest it feels like being a decent human has a whole other point than a movement has. A decent human is nice, shows respect and knows when a no is a no, etc. a movement strive for a change, they go out of their way to make sure it is being changed and may as well not be decent humans as they may be violent both verbally and physically.
 
im a feminist 100%
egalitarians are rly manky tbh thats all i gotta say

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I don't consider myself a feminist.

I'm 100% for equality of the sexes, in every aspect, however, I disagree with such a massive proportion of modern-day/third wave feminism that I don't see it fitting to associate myself with that movement when, in general, my thoughts don't align with said movement. "If you're for equality, you're a feminist" I don't agree with this, feminism, especially the vocal majority of modern feminism, is not to do with equality at all, it's a rather corrupt social movement that you can choose to align with, or not, and I choose not to.

I applaud all that feminism has done for women, in the past, and present. There was an absolute need for feminism "the advocacy of women's rights on the ground of the equality of the sexes." in the west in the past, and still currently in a lot of countries. However, I don't believe the type of feminism that gains the most traction nowadays is helping anyone at all, it's not helping women, it's not helping men, it's not achieving "equality", it's creating issues where there are none.

what abt the major issue which is laws against abortion?? thats a rly huge issue many feminists are fighting against
also equal pay
 
tbh i feel like the early feminists would be absolutely appalled at what the modern "movement" has become.
the suffragettes didn't fight for this.
doubt it

dont forget that in order to get the right to vote, feminists fought tooth and nail to first remove the fact they would be signed up for the draft once registered to vote, because they didnt want to be in the military (but men could be because theyre disposable LOL).
and once the black man got the vote, feminists decided to be sexist and racist entitled babies about it, whining about how they were more intelligent than the black man (because their skin was white, see) and thus more entitled to the right to vote.

modern-day feminism isnt that much different from feminism as it was when it first started out. its the same entitlement that drives them to actually fight for more inequality, but shoved in the direction of men. there are many issues men suffer from that are ignored because they are men, like domestic abuse, assault, suicide, etc. in the us, about half of rape victims are men, yet modern-day feminists (as well as anti-rape ads) will only focus on womens issues and how it affects women.
modern-day feminists are the kind of morons who will complain about a wage gap even when there provably is none. and those arent even the feminazis - those are just the "troo feminists!!1".
its a complete dismissal of logic and actual facts.

feminism, if it was ever a movement for equality (and it never was), has failed. it is and always has been a joke, a movement that doesnt work on facts but overexaggerated myths, and it only lulled idiots into supporting it with the sweet promises of it being a movement of equality.

i dont consider myself a feminist because im for equal rights for both genders, regardless of race and creed. feminism is and always has been a fight for superiority, and thus its not one i support.
 
im a feminist 100%
egalitarians are rly manky tbh thats all i gotta say

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what abt the major issue which is laws against abortion?? thats a rly huge issue many feminists are fighting against
also equal pay

What about anti abortion laws? I know that's a very big issue, I'm completely pro choice, as are millions of people who are not feminists. Just because a corrupt (imo) movement may be "fighting" for certain things, in the name of equality or whatever, that doesn't make the movement good as a whole, and feminism definitely isn't.

In my opinion, laws such as this really shouldn't exist and need to be repelled, however, feminism isn't required for that to happen.

Equal pay exists, the wage gap isn't real.

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You're not a decent human being if you're not a feminist, egalitarians are "manky", honestly this whole name-calling and ****ting on others just because you don't agree with their opinions culture present in feminism (and egalitarianism, MRActivism(?), etc.) is saddening, this has what it's become, sure this is tame, but it goes so far sometimes and is part of the reason why I don't like to associate myself with any of these "movements".
 
Definitely no. I want equality for all. That's it. I don't want women to be on top like every feminist wants.
 
What about anti abortion laws? I know that's a very big issue, I'm completely pro choice, as are millions of people who are not feminists. Just because a corrupt (imo) movement may be "fighting" for certain things, in the name of equality or whatever, that doesn't make the movement good as a whole, and feminism definitely isn't.

In my opinion, laws such as this really shouldn't exist and need to be repelled, however, feminism isn't required for that to happen.

Equal pay exists, the wage gap isn't real.

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You're not a decent human being if you're not a feminist, egalitarians are "manky", honestly this whole name-calling and ****ting on others just because you don't agree with their opinions culture present in feminism (and egalitarianism, MRActivism(?), etc.) is saddening, this has what it's become, sure this is tame, but it goes so far sometimes and is part of the reason why I don't like to associate myself with any of these "movements".

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Definitely no. I want equality for all. That's it. I don't want women to be on top like every feminist wants.

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Well yeah but... Feminism is about equality though? So I don't understand what your point is, not to be condescending. I think just about everyone on here is complaining about some radical feminists and I get it, there are some terrible people out there and there are women out there who do believe they should be superior over men (but that's actually very few and far between). Vast majority of people who consider themselves to be feminist do want equality for all and that is the main point of the movement. Of course feminism has turned into a "dirty" word because of the unfortunate minority who ruin things for the vast majority who do genuinely care about gender inequality between males and females across the world.

I know some people on here are evidently very against "feminism" but their whole perception on the issue is skewed. Yes, there is radical feminism and there are ****ty sides of feminism but that's arguably the case with any sort of belief, including religion and such. Just because you see a few ****ty extremists doesn't mean that EVERYONE genuinely thinks like that and believes that. People are putting forward arguments here based on a vocal minority, which seems flawed in itself because they are basing it off of misconceptions. Whilst the vocal minority may identify as feminist I personally believe the "feminism" they are promoting is not a kind of feminism we should aspire to and doesn't fit with the true definition of the word.
 
Of course I am. Women deserve equal treatment period.

People love to think they're being super different and counter culture by saying they're not because of the how certain people in the group act. I personally think it's incredibly pretentious, selfish, and hurts the progression of females severely. So many people will actively say "I support equality but not feminism!" but opinions like that are exactly the type of censorship that steers women away from fighting for their equality because of the fear that they themselves will come off too radical. Whether you mean it that way or not, it shows young girls that fighting for equality makes you look crazy.

I think that a unified solidarity is what's really needed in order to make any real change, not some stupid **** like "nah you guys are cringey so I'm not going to support you even though I agree with what youre trying to do"

Im sorry if any of this sounds directed at any person specifically. I'm really not trying to pick a fight with anyone on here. The things I mentioned are things a LOT of people say and I get pretty heated about this topic so ye.
 
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Oh God, no. Never. I live in the U.S where feminism is radical and unnecessary. Hate it.
 
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There is one thing I don't understand; this is not aimed towards anyone at all. But can't someone be a feminist and not tell anyone? Like, unless someone tells every single they come across they're feminist or put it online in every single forum, being a feminist shouldn't harm anyone. Although the word "feminist" is heavily tinted, I think it's easy to make a difference from being that radical feminist and someone who really wants equality. I don't know, I just feel kinda iffy about the whole "feminism is tinted and I never want to be a feminist" because if you don't share that you're feminist, or you would advocate it correctly, there shouldn't be reason not the be a feminist other than the fact you don't want to be.

I'm trying not to shove the idea of being a feminist down anyone's throat. I understand if one would rather be a egalitarian or none at all. But I think the fact that some/most (I don't see it as most, I don't see a ton of radical feminists) people are heavily radical shouldn't affect what you want to be. Those are just my thoughts.

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Adding on, if someone ever shames you for being a feminist, just peacefully settle the argument. There's nothing that shows maturity more than ending an argument before it becomes serious. And that's what feminism needs right now; people that are mature enough to advocate what they believe in without shoving it down people's throats, or adding onto the radical feminist image. Just my two cents.
 
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