@Ace Marvel I like your pros and cons for each player, and thank you for being concise and focused like that, I also like how you put predictions of how people will react... its interesting and I don't know why a scum would put that much effort into thinking about what to look out for... if you are scum and made this I would be very impressed
I tried to set the game as black and white as I could to give a more in-depth analysis, the nulls are legit, I need more information. but no one is locked yet.
@Ace Marvel I like your pros and cons for each player, and thank you for being concise and focused like that, I also like how you put predictions of how people will react... its interesting and I don't know why a scum would put that much effort into thinking about what to look out for... if you are scum and made this I would be very impressed
I would do it regardless of alignment, like my boards, I like to commit to the games, so it should not be AI, keeping it real. I think is more of my meta, but being also honest, if I was mafia, probably my team would have let me post this.
I tried to set the game as black and white as I could to give a more in-depth analysis, the nulls are legit, I need more information. but no one is locked yet.
i have a few questions pertaining to your leanings:
1. toads jumped on shawo, why is toads inno leaning and shawo maf leaning?
2. being sus of glow doesn't seem to be enough to mark her maf leaning. why?
3. i was the first to name sensei and believe he may be maf leaning. how are my reads taken from others? i will admit that i've been hesitant to name, but it's simply because i feel like it's too early to definitively to do based on how mafia used to be. it'd be more shots in the dark vs. 100%. i'm asking because toads mentioned this, and i want to help us win/be a better asset. if me sharing all of my thoughts atm is going to be for the best, i don't mind sifting through everything
4. why is pinkshade the only new person who's scum leaning?
If I'm going to be honest Ace, the interactions between me toads and ness are the only thing I've done, I will admit your read on me was all but lack-luster but I think it's a bit disingenuous to admit that you don't want to deal with it and then try to read me otherwise.
Otherwise, I find your reads to be a bit... cryptic. You've all but said you have a gutread on a few users.
I think what I'm trying to say is.
It seems like you really struggled to describe the reasons why you townread and scumread people.
If I were to remove the names from some of these users, would anyone even be able to guess who I was talking about?
" it’s clear they went and read the thread with a mafia probably wouldn’t do. Jumps on my scum read, kinda, which is team play."
" As with all seasoned players, they know how to play and know others weaknesses, unless sure don’t jump into their logic so easily."
Townread
" Lots of questioning, pointing and solving, an active player and working with the team to get a wagon."
" I feel their reads are not theirs, but taken from everyone else, so this might look town but I feel something is just not right."
-Scumread
There were a few that stood out to me, but I did randomly choose them.
Also I think Toad's complimenting those reads for the formatting was also pretty sloppy.
Someone isn't town just cuz they have a nice post.
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Sorry, I misunderstood Toads post. I somehow didn't get the part where "I don't know why Mafia would put in the effort to do it."
I mean it's still a sloppy conclusion, someone can still be mafia even if they're trying hard.
Toads and Aerious's convo has just become really dragged out and boring to read. I feel compelled to just call it Town V Town but I won't do that yet. I think its getting more personal than analytical though
In general I have to say I like Ace's recent post as its more analytical and has mostly been consistent with what he's been going with so far. I do like the fully explanations for things, but I really don't like how he's townreading so many people. But for me town reads are more special so I guess its a playstyle difference. There are a few reads I think should just end in null instead of town though
I didn’t liked them voting for me at all, at that point I wasn’t even sus, so it was really uncalled for, and jumping to Toads seems like an easy OMGUS, and let’s pretend that didn’t happened.
I don't agree with some that instantly town read glow, I will follow with my wagon, but will change vote if it turns unsuccessful. For two main reasons, consistency in what I do, and to follow through with my actions.
You voted for glow when she wasn't even sus yet, so I think your logic with Shawo's vote contradicts what you did with glow
You don't need to stay on glow for the sake of being consistent. You can realize you're wrong and move on from that if you explain it. Your posts seems that you have stronger susses other than glow and it just seems you're staying on her just to stay on her. Your case on glow still isn't compelling enough even when she was here for you to interact with
I would do it regardless of alignment, like my boards, I like to commit to the games, so it should not be AI, keeping it real. I think is more of my meta, but being also honest, if I was mafia, probably my team would have let me post this.
If you're town this game, that means you haven't been scum ever, right? If you only have one real game on your belt I don't know how much meta you truly have
I did not compare you to my ex... I said it seemed like you couldn't have an honest conversation just like my ex in relation to how you were seeming to avoid my posts which was your gameplay... I apologize for if that hurt you
However, you also need to take responsibility for the antagonizing posts that led to it, and not leave that out of this conversation too
I think a mafia member would also put that amount of effort in if they want to cloak but I think that wouldn’t be a totally fair take from me on Ace’s post. It did seem like he took a good amount of time to get the reads people asked him to get.
As for the other conversation... I do think it might be derailing away from the original point even though I agree that the ex comment wasn’t in the best taste and was a bit too personal. I also think Shawo was antagonizing Toads. In a way, I held back from commenting because of it and my own lack of knowledge about forum mafia. (I am not blaming for my lack of content. I was fairly busy and fairly insecure with what I should do.) I think right now discussing that won’t benefit town though?
I think we should either vote for an outlier or have a vote to not cull somebody today. (Even though I think that might not be a good strategy for town.) I think things have gotten too muddled about some players.
You voted for glow when she wasn't even sus yet, so I think your logic with Shawo's vote contradicts what you did with glow
You don't need to stay on glow for the sake of being consistent. You can realize you're wrong and move on from that if you explain it. Your posts seems that you have stronger susses other than glow and it just seems you're staying on her just to stay on her. Your case on glow still isn't compelling enough even when she was here for you to interact with
I tried to start a wagon to get reaction, I failed, I know that, but I didn't vote in the first OMGUS opportunity I had, for me there is the difference.
If you're town this game, that means you haven't been scum ever, right? If you only have one real game on your belt I don't know how much meta you truly have
I'm not going to take responsibility for something I didn't do.
Should I have said something that offended you I'll apologize because I never intended on hurting you, but I'm going to stand by the things I have said.
If you find that I have said something out of taste and I really didn't realize it quote it and I'll deal with it on a case basis.
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To clarify, I never made a post directly antagonizing toad. The oh noo post was directed towards the 4-5 different people who were talking about my vote.
If I were directly antagonizing someone I would make it very clear.
I think a mafia member would also put that amount of effort in if they want to cloak but I think that wouldn’t be a totally fair take from me on Ace’s post. It did seem like he took a good amount of time to get the reads people asked him to get.
As for the other conversation... I do think it might be derailing away from the original point even though I agree that the ex comment wasn’t in the best taste and was a bit too personal. I also think Shawo was antagonizing Toads. In a way, I held back from commenting because of it and my own lack of knowledge about forum mafia. (I am not blaming for my lack of content. I was fairly busy and fairly insecure with what I should do.) I think right now discussing that won’t benefit town though?
I think we should either vote for an outlier or have a vote to not cull somebody today. (Even though I think that might not be a good strategy for town.) I think things have gotten too muddled about some players.
I appreciate the sentiment but I feel like you've made an unfounded claim at the end.
Who do you want to lynch? I mean if anything, it would be easier for you to decide who you think is mafia amongst the people who have posted the most and come to a conclusion about who you would be comfortable lynching, and if you REALLY want to no lynch you need a very good reason why.
There's a few reasons why no lynching is really bad, but I'd rather you talked about why you want to do this so I can see what you were thinking, rather than you just throwing an idea out there.
Personally, I don't see the wheel of fortune working really well, with the devil, but I'm hopping for the best, out of those 3 cards, if mafia I would look deeper into the Hierophant. But it was a quickie and didn't anilyzed the results correctly.
I think a lot of people have complimented Ace's reads for being high-effort, but I really feel like the content is lackluster at times. It really feels Ace picked an overambitious format and just kinda penciled things in for some people.
Because of that the content of that post really isn't that good, so it might be best not to just compliment it because it's high effort, and instead direct it towards more useful discussion about the inside of the post (I say this because 4 people have talked about how good it looks! But only Daniel iirc made a comment about the contents.)
If anything, Ace just makes me uncomfortable, I've been refraining from making a specific read because it's not like they've done anything wrong, but their tone rubs me the wrong way.
Not that their post means they're mafia, just that I'd rather discuss the reads in it since Ace is a pretty heavy point of contention for a lot of people, and it might be the best way to decide on whether Ace is mafia or not?
Who do you want to lynch? I mean if anything, it would be easier for you to decide who you think is mafia amongst the people who have posted the most and come to a conclusion about who you would be comfortable lynching, and if you REALLY want to no lynch you need a very good reason why.
There's a few reasons why no lynching is really bad, but I'd rather you talked about why you want to do this so I can see what you were thinking, rather than you just throwing an idea out there.
I completely disagree here, Remy is asking for a friend with that conclusion, and as a suggestions is appreciated, yes I believe a no kill is taking town opportunities, so no Remy, I won't be supporting that, but I don't see ulterior motives with this.
I'm not going to take responsibility for something I didn't do.
Should I have said something that offended you I'll apologize because I never intended on hurting you, but I'm going to stand by the things I have said.
If you find that I have said something out of taste and I really didn't realize it quote it and I'll deal with it on a case basis.
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To clarify, I never made a post directly antagonizing toad. The oh noo post was directed towards the 4-5 different people who were talking about my vote.
If I were directly antagonizing someone I would make it very clear.
I'm not going to take responsibility for something I didn't do.
Should I have said something that offended you I'll apologize because I never intended on hurting you, but I'm going to stand by the things I have said.
If you find that I have said something out of taste and I really didn't realize it quote it and I'll deal with it on a case basis.
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To clarify, I never made a post directly antagonizing toad. The oh noo post was directed towards the 4-5 different people who were talking about my vote.
If I were directly antagonizing someone I would make it very clear.
I'm gonna drop it for the sake of the game and not starting another flame war, but just know its not about what your intentions are when someone feels hurt and or antagonized outside of the scope of this game
coming up with fab reads and the activity maps and the board
