Mafia June 2020 Mafia Game Thread [DAY 2 ENDS AT 6/20 5PM PST]

[N e s s]

this doesn't add up to me. i'm leaning on ace for elimination due to causing chaos for us (and i'm not sure if that's AI or not) -- it's not because of being an easy scapegoat. in the same breath, you say he's memeing/purposefully not contributing. then you want to vote sensei for being noncommittal. can you explain this to me?

It's like... I've seen this before. I don't think he is guaranteed to be town off of what he's doing, but I don't think what he's done is particularly alignment indicative either way. It reads more to me like he's just purposefully being dumb for the sake of it without any rhyme or reason, and I don't believe this makes him necessarily scummy. I just don't see the motivation behind it as either alignment, but if I had to flip a coin I'd probably say town.

I don't understand what he thinks he's gaining from this, but it appears opportunistic to me that he is one of the top elimination candidates for this reason. Granted, it wouldn't hurt him if he would cut the crap and actually help me get a decent read on him, but I don't believe he should be the candidate for today.

 

[toadsworthy]

thats my iso, I'm going to bed

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to be fair having a lot of null reads makes sense right now. But do you think her pushes on her top scum reads are weak? And what's the difference between her being scum but sensai being town for not wanting to scum hunt again?

yes but her 5 scum reads are on arguably easy people to scum read, then the read on you that is ranges from PR to town leader to scummy... and while she spent a lot of time saying she wants more out of me and shawo, were still null on her list. It all just feels like a front, rather than active scum hunting which i can't stop saying enough. on top of this literally all her posts end up just continuing to be null

 

[Feferily]

Alright! I’ve read through the posts and I’ve also brushed up on some mafia terms and acronyms! And I think for myself I just want to assure that my reads are purely based on this game of mafia and aren’t meant as a personal attack. And since I’m completely new to both forum mafia and this specific forums mafia, I apologize if I don’t address the meta or get a better personal read on others.

I’ve changed my read on Shawo. I was reading them as scum purely for the fact that they so quickly tied to gain town leadership while seemingly undermining some points from others by doing so. It wasn’t a very bright take on my part because now I’ve thought a bit harder and I don’t think attempting to gain leadership in that way is the smart move for mafia member. It doesn’t seem safe.

I was unsure on my read with Ace because what they’ve been doing would be way too dangerous for a mafia member who genuinely wants to make it through the night but at the same time I don’t see it as being helpful for the town. I think it might have been a way for him to get the discussion moving again and then it got out of hand.

Toads, I read as being properly defensive given the way Shawo was going at them in the beginning. I currently can’t say for sure whether I put them as town or scum so I’m going to put them as null with just the tiniest town reading that might just be because of emotion.

Ness I read as town during the discussion with Shawo because it did feel like it was town versus town going in circles.

Daniel I’ve been reading as town because he seems to be an archivist of sorta trying to keep leads together for the towns sake.

As for scum leaning... I think Punchy was the odd one out for me because they don’t seem too invested in the posts currently and have only dropped in to show their disinterest in larger texts.

And Sensai as a wagon seems to be mostly for the same reason. I believe voting in that way would be most helpful for town because they aren’t actively helping or harming the towns wellbeing.

I’ll type up my other reads later but apologies for any mistakes. I’m on mobile, haven’t slept, and am still a bit shy.

 

[Ace Marvel]

I've been working on my reads, all will be previous to 9:00 pm eastern 1 and a half hours ago. Missing 8 players but I'm working as fast as I can, I'm super concentrated on that, so I haven't been paying much attention, but I'll catch up.

 

[Damniel]

oooh I like Feferily's post. The effort is a good thing and I can mostly agree with it except with punchy and shawo. look forward to the rest of their thoughts but I'm good with taking them out of my PoE for today since this seems promising

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whoever posts next is concerned the devil

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confirmed*

 

[Ace Marvel]

the devil within.

 

[PunchyTheCat]

imo i think ace would try to be more of a people pleaser as mafia just off of the kind of person he is

also yes i am disinterested

this game is boring, people are tunneling shawo for reasons that are easy and nai

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oooh I like Feferily's post. The effort is a good thing and I can mostly agree with it except with punchy and shawo. look forward to the rest of their thoughts but I'm good with taking them out of my PoE for today since this seems promising

wait you townread me?

why

you can't pocket me until i've done something towny

 

[Aerious]

All these quotes are from Aeth before I started going into her more... and especially the last 4, it just seems they are TRYING to stay in the middle of the road, they are trying to incite something whether its between me and Shawo or on Ace. But I get no inclination about what you would do with this information

if you question someone, you hopefully get an answer and adjust your reads, you use that information. I feel like you are set on a bunch of null reads and trying to just incite things to spark an elimination on someone else, none of this really shows legit scum hunting though

can you make any amount of effort to spell my username right if you can put that effort to go through messages? incite something? you completely got out of the conversation with shawo earlier thanks to ace's derailing. that's a fair criticism. give me one reason it isn't

right now, if i had one vote, i'm heavily leaning on you due to your interaction with others throughout this game. i know it's made me uncomfortable to the point where i dodged getting involved, i don't know how others feel about this

3 to 14 seems really town-sided... and if were gonna go that long, then kill me now tbh

having a tracker and a watcher seems redundant so I would guess its only one of those

jail keeper is a fun role, so I'm eager to see how that plays out if its in the game, and having a doctor is kinda broken if KP is set at one. If we have a good doctor, then rip KP and this game goes longer and even more kill me

tmi? not to mention that you joked for 5 pages straight instead of contributing anything before being rude to shawo

comes in to game
strictly talks about game setup
leaves while saying lets stop talking about set up

am i the only one that really doesn't like that?

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by strictly, I mean he only talked about game setup while here

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so shawl if you would like to contribute to any other conversation, I would appreciate it

when you turned to shawo

Mmmhm well ok, then it’s sus

where did you apologize for your vote? That makes It sound like you’re gonna ride that vote to the elimination too?

you don't get to argue this when your substantive claim was attaching shawo

OMGUS maybe, but I think its clear I have my doubts about shawo... and if he can throw out votes so can I

hopefully you wake up and see your faults, un vote, and apologize. so i'll wait

but i probably won't take my vote off

threatening to hold your vote over someone because of emotional issues instead of voting for who you believe to be scum

^
my agenda was me seeing two people trying to say I was defensive and antagonistic, when I was not defensive at all and only became antagonistic because of someone else's actions
so I thought showing the posts in order would let everyone see the truth.... so they can't cherry pick my posts like I said

i really am trying..... even though shawo’s actions are exactly one of my big triggers. See my blow up ala ness the last game I played.

so I am explaining my point, probably over explaining, because I do think there is some scum suspect in what shawo’s ultimately doing

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???

I think shawo is playing that out more than you, I don’t Know what else to say to it, as idk how else I could’ve phrased that? I was sick of hearing him go on about mechanics after he was telling people to stop.... so that’s how it came out?

@Ness while I think I did have some more snarky posts last night, I believe my aggression is warranted in dealing with someone as bold as shawo. That being said, I don’t think I’ve been like out of line like I sometimes can be since it’s all related to gameplay.... Lord knows though if I see a case being led on me that I don’t think is substantiated, I’m gonna drive it into the ground. And that’s something I’ve done as town and scum

your post puts into better words what I was trying to get at about cherry picking my posts. But I get stuck in going further because people would just backlash at me saying it was OMGUS.

I do think shawo should be in contention for elimination. I have seen people meme and joke early in game before, but this doesn’t seem to fit that pattern and is more avoidant. Then waking up to the case on me I was like, wtf.... the best way I can describe what I think it is is like pre-OMGUS like he knows I’m gonna pursue this case so he is trying to beat me to the punch, everything abouthis posts seem calculted

like how he throws in “am I the only one who cares about mechanics” and justifying all his mechanics posts when no one was really questioning them that hard, but more so questioning why he was so adamant about us believing him

this is only 10 pages in. i cba to keep digging through. the point is that you've been hypocritical thus far (blaming others for being non-committal while not really contributing much yourself beyond one personal attack on shawo), attacked players, attempted to justify it, and trying the same thing for a second time in a row.

either you're an extremely emotional player or scum. i was reading it as emotional player, but i'm not certain of your meta. regardless, there hasn't been much contribution from your end beyond accusing and harassing someone without merit

sorry for wall post

 

[Damniel]

imo i think ace would try to be more of a people pleaser as mafia just off of the kind of person he is

also yes i am disinterested

this game is boring, people are tunneling shawo for reasons that are easy and nai

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wait you townread me?

why

you can't pocket me until i've done something towny

why not bring up who we should vote then if not shawo. but i do agree that shawo and ace seme pretty easy to beat on

no its null on you. meta just makes me expect your behavior from you so I don't think the disinterest is AI

 

[Aerious]

keep in mind that ace is still a factor i'm leaning on. i don't fully understand the reasons why he decided to attempt a wagon on glow or derailed, but at least he hasn't attacked other players/wanted to vote for emotional issues

 

[g u a v a]

i would like to retract my willingness to vote for shawo. i sat with all the info a bit longer and it is an easy pick for d1, i think the results would give us some information regardless but i don't want to close myself off other possibilities. i'm still sus though.

i'm still interested in bianca though, i'd consider her as an alternate vote option.

 

[toadsworthy]

Aerious' post is far-reaching and honestly still avoidant
1. I didn't get out of a conversation with shawo, I walked away last night because I thought he was becoming increasingly antagonistic and I didn't want to personally attack anyone. I ended my with vote on him to put pressure back on him, I raised my concerns with his posts and play style and nothing was a personal attack.
2. I have not made any personal attacks against anyone really... I got close with shawo, but again I drew back and came back to focus more on my concerns with his posts.
3. YOU still can't commit to any of your reads lol, so of course you picked me to vote for since I'm putting you on the spot right now. I went back and explained the posts you highlighted and what I was thinking, I think you just cherry picked these as an OMGUS.
4. Even after all of that, you STILL list me as an emotional player or scum? but everything else you say leads me to believe you scum read me now after all this, which differs from your initial null read...
5. I have not been hypocritical in noncommittal, I've been very vocal about how one person's reads or actions would lead me to think of them as town leaning or scum leaning.

If you had to pick one of your original 5 scum reads on your last reads list, who would it be?

it strikes me as funny too that you have claimed to be rusty and not as experienced, yet this bold response is hypocritical of that

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Shawo's attempts at blowing up mine and ness' spot seem very similar too in that he really goes in, hyper focuses just on each person, then kinda comes back off of it by the end of the discussion... another separate thought I had in the rain

 

[Ace Marvel]

3 more players and I'll post my reads, sorry is taking so long.

 

[Aerious]

i'm still interested in bianca though, i'd consider her as an alternate vote option.

i'm willing to learn more about bianca as well, but it's hard for me to align with votes just bc meta. what's making me curious is about the potential slip from earlier that i noticed while sifting for toads' posts, that epona/her can't both be mafia -> epona town. was this addressed?

Aerious' post is far-reaching and honestly still avoidant
1. I didn't get out of a conversation with shawo, I walked away last night because I thought he was becoming increasingly antagonistic and I didn't want to personally attack anyone. I ended my with vote on him to put pressure back on him, I raised my concerns with his posts and play style and nothing was a personal attack.
2. I have not made any personal attacks against anyone really... I got close with shawo, but again I drew back and came back to focus more on my concerns with his posts.
3. YOU still can't commit to any of your reads lol, so of course you picked me to vote for since I'm putting you on the spot right now. I went back and explained the posts you highlighted and what I was thinking, I think you just cherry picked these as an OMGUS.
4. Even after all of that, you STILL list me as an emotional player or scum? but everything else you say leads me to believe you scum read me now after all this, which differs from your initial null read...
5. I have not been hypocritical in noncommittal, I've been very vocal about how one person's reads or actions would lead me to think of them as town leaning or scum leaning.

If you had to pick one of your original 5 scum reads on your last reads list, who would it be?

it strikes me as funny too that you have claimed to be rusty and not as experienced, yet this bold response is hypocritical of that

1. you did when ace decided to derail. people were still curious about you. you got defensive and went for me as soon as i said that i wanted to learn more
2. you absolutely did. i quoted them. it's borderline inappropriate, and i know for fact it made me uncomfortable. what boggled my mind was the fact that you try and justify your behavior instead of apologizing. can anyone else speak on this?
3. when i played forum mafia, people were hesitant before shooting in the dark for names. if people would name random innos, chances are that they'd be mafia. why is it normalized that people MUST name scum 100% on d1 or that's indicative of guilt? explain it to me prior to me shooting out names/what's going on in my mind to appease you
4. i absolutely do name you as an emotional player. i'd be surprised if i was off the mark. you were null because i wasn't sure if i was scumreading or reading you as hot-headed/quick to act, but reading two people as scum for the same reason (while providing nothing substantial yourself) isn't adding up to me
5. your leads have been shawo and me for the same reason. it's two people with the same cause. i've explained my reasons as well, and by your standards, it shouldn't make me non-committal. i'm more than willing to sift through 40 pages to say who i think is scum, but i want a valid reason from you

i am inexperienced with forum mafia, but i'm not an idiot. is that what you expect from noobs?

 

[Ace Marvel]

READS HERE OPEN SPOILER

Spoiler: READS HERE

As of posting this, post count my vary I went in order. sorry for any typos or if I used bad pronouns.

1. Lothitine
   1. Total Post: 15
   2. Town Points
      1. First time playing on a forum, and wants to blend in with people, and is following logic by others, not adding much that has not been already said, but never the less supportive of town decisions, for a first time player it would be really hard to pull a blend gamestyle. Has given read list, yet no explanation for any of those, just reads.
   3. Mafia points
      1. Free pass, it’s easy to not suspect a new player of being mafia, although no indication of it, we can’t rule out the possibility.
   4. What should we be careful with
      1. Playing irl vs a forum give you ways to deceive people and it can always be an easy way out of any confrontation, adding that is new to forum games, can make an illusion of town.
   5. My read: TOWN
   6. My reasoning
      1. Has not given any indication of not being town, even with a few post you can sense that.
2. Ness
   1. Total Post: 49
   2. Town Points
      1. Ness is a season player and know what they are doing, a slip at this time in the game would be a big no no, so I believe that their intentions are real.
   3. Mafia points
      1. Too much back and forth with Shawo, and we really didn’t get anywhere, their reads where change really quickly and didn't go through at the end, which can be read as passive treats.
   4. What should we be careful with
      1. A season player could easily flip some vote of the newbies, making it easier to get it their way, should prevent this from happening. Meta wise, they know some of the players and could use that to their advantage, if the only reasoning is meta we should be careful.
   5. My read TOWN leaning
   6. My reasoning
      1. Helpful yes, but the back and forth was tiring and it’s preventing me from giving a full town read, if a wagon started from this maybe, but right now I can’t say accurately TOWN.
3. Ace Marvel
   1. Total Post: 84
   2. Town Points
      1. I’m really trying believe it or not, there is not point is saying more, all I ask is for a chance at redemption.
   3. Mafia points
      1. I’m in a bad place atm, I know that, and I was digging deeper and deeper, all I ask is for a chance at redemption.
   4. What should we be careful with
      1. I’m all over the place, and can create chaos easily, I’m impulsive and can change a wagon in an instant, work with me, but set me limits and a path to follow or I will destroy everything, like I always do. So never think that I’m trolling, my intentions might be at the wrong place, but in my mind is to help town, but I need to work on getting my message around and more clearly.
   5. My read TOWN
   6. My reasoning
      1. I was given this role, and I know it for a fact. An even though you might be right that atm im more quantity over quality, I’m really committed to this games.
4. Feferily
   1. Total Post: 7
   2. Town Points
      1. I see them trying, Remy is also a new player in tbt, but their post seem sincere, although not complex and lacking in the quantity department, might need more posts to expand on this.
   3. Mafia points
      1. Low post number could mean mafia, but I see more coaching there if anything. Other than that to few post to make a deeper analysis
   4. What should we be careful with
      1. Same as with all new player, no free pass, but that doesn’t mean not helping, if we want to win we need a strong town
   5. My read TOWN leaning
   6. My reasoning
      1. I will keep my NULLS limited to prevent it being a no read, will update as they post, this might change. But from the few interactions i have had with Remy in the forums, they seem like a person, that won't fake their post. might be bias by this.
5. Toads
   1. Total Post: 83
   2. Town Points
      1. Proactive and giving insight, trying to push me to do better, and I don’t see mafia doing that, not specially by the way I play. So brownie points for that, again a seasoned player know what he is doing, so a scum slip at this stage is unlikely.
   3. Mafia points
      1. Again the Shawo affair, keep going and going, and it was just a provoke war, at the end I see Toads winning, so he might got what he wanted.
   4. What should we be careful with
      1. Toads can switch a heated argument in a matter of seconds, he knows what he is doing and can push people buttons to reach their goal. If the small talk tops that could be a sign of something bigger coming.
   5. My read TOWN leaning
   6. My reasoning
      1. Mainly the way he is encourage me to try harder and do better, he was the host of my last game and victim of my nervous breakdown, so I will believe he actually wants my insight about other players, so I respect that.
6. Shawo
   1. Total Post: 56
   2. Town Points
      1. Trying to help, later on in game, their post started to be more deep, this was explained because of the work situation, so is understandable. Active player and interaction with the post flow
   3. Mafia points
      1. That Ness/Toads/Triangle, out of the 3 they looked the worst, if I had to pick anyone to vote from that situation it will be Shawo, I just can’t with that affair anymore, so I’m putting it to rest.
   4. What should we be careful with
      1. There seems to always be an easy way out for everything, including outside factors like work. But this can be a way to prevent any action against them, so we should keep an eye on that.
   5. My read SCUM leaning
   6. My reasoning
      1. I didn’t liked them voting for me at all, at that point I wasn’t even sus, so it was really uncalled for, and jumping to Toads seems like an easy OMGUS, and let’s pretend that didn’t happened.
7. glow
   1. Total Post: 10
   2. Town Points
      1. Asking asking asking, few post but going with the flow of the game, has the support of some players, so it seems atm the are town leaning for most.
   3. Mafia points
      1. I honestly started the wagon randomly, but something is telling me that there is more than what meets the eye, so I will be looking closely.
   4. What should we be careful with
      1. Being town read by many yet, the post are low, never forget anyone could be mafia, so don’t let previous meta clouded your judgment.
   5. My read SCUM leaning
   6. My reasoning
      1. I don't agree with some that instantly town read glow, I will follow with my wagon, but will change vote if it turns unsuccessful. For two main reasons, consistency in what I do, and to follow through with my actions.
8. Sensai
   1. Total Post: 7
   2. Town Points
      1. Few post but was sincere that they were unmotivated atm.
   3. Mafia points
      1. Jumping at the first read list and sticking with it, easy way to blend in, not giving anything sustancial, yet already throwing scum lists
   4. What should we be careful with
      1. Being unmotivated can change drastically someone playstyle, so as the game progresses we should be careful with this. Not attacking personally in anyway, this can happen to all of us.
   5. My read REAL NULL
   6. My reasoning
      1. Not enough information atm, so I will look into their playstyle.
9. Heyden
   1. Total Post: 4
   2. Town Points
      1. Even with just 2 substantial post, it’s clear they went and read the thread with a mafia probably wouldn’t do. Jumps on my scum read, kinda, which is team play.
   3. Mafia points
      1. Not at the moment, will look again once I see more posts
   4. What should we be careful with
      1. As with all seasoned players, they know how to play and know others weaknesses, unless sure don’t jump into their logic so easily.
   5. My read TOWN leaning
   6. My reasoning
      1. Even with this few post I can see the are making an effort, so kudos to that, not much that I can say.
10. Aerious
    1. Total Post: 53
    2. Town Points
       1. Lots of questioning, pointing and solving, an active player and working with the team to get a wagon.
    3. Mafia points
       1. I feel their reads are not theirs, but taken from everyone else, so this might look town but I feel something is just not right.
    4. What should we be careful with
       1. Wagon jumping, if this starts to happen, it a sign that should be taken seriously.
    5. My read SCUM leaning
    6. My reasoning
       1. something is not right I feel they are sticking to the closest ally and take for there, a little too far reaching, at point, like really trying to prove town, in the opposite way of me.
11. Daniel
    1. Total Post: 90
    2. Town Points
       1. Daniel has been the most curious player in the game, asking, asking asking, helping set the base for the wagons today. A town move.
    3. Mafia points
       1. He is a wolf, look at his avatar, he can be playing us without even realizing it.
    4. What should we be careful with
       1. He is an expert at mafia, and can turn the tides really easily, to get his way, sharing is caring so let’s not give him all the questions.
    5. My read TOWN
    6. My reasoning
       1. He has been the most helpful player as of now, so I will trust my gut and take everything into consideration.
12. Pinkshade
    1. Total Post: 8
    2. Town Points
       1. Being upbeat when joining the game, gave and opinion about the state of the game, and haven’t done anything that screams scummish.
    3. Mafia points
       1. Said hi a few post and left, so it might be a I’m here, cover for being in mafia.
    4. What should we be careful with
       1. Just saying hi and leaving could mean something, if this continue, I would like to look deeper.
    5. My read Null scum leaning
    6. My reasoning
       1. Not trying to sound mean, but not a relevant player atm, going through the motions, and not in I feel it in a mafia hiding way.
13. Mayor Leaf
    1. Total Post: 45
    2. Town Points
       1. She made an impression on me, so I’m giving point for that, sus is the reasonable thing to do.
    3. Mafia points
       1. Doing the tally might be an innocent way for mafia to get intel, so idk, there might be something going on there.
    4. What should we be careful with
       1. Mayor is explosive, so if we detect something during an argument, it can really help us see which team they are playing for.
    5. My read TOWN
    6. My reasoning
       1. After being the reason the reason she was killed on the previous game, this time I’m reading more town vibes.
14. Frogslime
    1. Total Post: 3
    2. Town Points
       1. NULL, went back to read and never came back
    3. Mafia points
       1. NULL, went back to read and never came back
    4. What should we be careful with
       1. Posting just three time, not giving any reading, might mean something, but we will have to wait and see.
    5. My read NULL real
    6. My reasoning
       1. went back to read and never came back
15. Bianca
    1. Total Post: 33
    2. Town Points
       1. My dear friend Bianca, I can’t see it as anything, but town. Bianca is being Bianca and is hard to read, but she is a master of disguise, so who knows what alignment she has, need more time to make an accurate read.
    3. Mafia points
       1. Same reason as above, Bianca being Bianca can be deceiving at best, alarming at worst. She has a unique playstyle that works really well, if mafia she is a mighty opponent.
    4. What should we be careful with
       1. She is a master of getting out off sticky situations, so always look deeper at everything that happens around her. She is a Pro at charming people. She is also a dear friend so unless there is a lot of evidence, I will always defend her.
    5. My read TOWN
    6. My reasoning
    7. A real read on Bianca only happens later on in the game, so for now I’m sticking with town.
16. Punchy
    1. Total Post: 25
    2. Town Points
       1. Straight to the point in your face attitude, which is something great for town, he is an experienced player and knows what he is doing. If town is a great player to have.
    3. Mafia points
       1. Kinda agro for my taste with some of his post, complaining a little even, might not be relevant, but it didn’t sit 100% right with me.
    4. What should we be careful with
       1. Could start a fire with a single match. Do not provoke without reason.
    5. My read Town leaning
    6. My reasoning
       1. Punchy know how to play and and as of know I trust their judgment even if it means voting for me. I gave reasons.
17. Epona
    1. Total Post: 72
    2. Town Points
       1. Really friendly and critical, a nice ally, she goes beyond normal reasoning to solve things.
    3. Mafia points
       1. She is a master of disguise, so there will always be the option that she is with the wolves.
    4. What should we be careful with
       1. Like a said a master of disguise, read very carefully, any interaction, could mean something. Be very careful with her.
    5. My read TOWN
    6. My reasoning
       1. Compared to last game I’m feeling that Epona is being more of a real town than a wolf blending in, so I will go with this.

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Sorry for the wait and the Bible I posted.

 

[Aerious]

Sorry for the wait and the Bible I posted.

dw! it's much more productive and v helpful to us ❤. this makes a lot more sense than the wagon earlier.

was the last game your first maf game?

 

[toadsworthy]

2. you absolutely did. i quoted them. it's borderline inappropriate, and i know for fact it made me uncomfortable. what boggled my mind was the fact that you try and justify your behavior instead of apologizing. can anyone else speak on this?

please someone speak on this, because I'm not gonna be labeled like this for ISO-ing posts and playing this game, i'm sorry if you think its a personal attack that I keep misspelling your name, but it's not... my computer keeps changing your name to serious so I improvised and I've done it with other people.

I have personally attacked people in the past and there is a stark contrast to then and now. Do not use accusations like this so willy nilly just because I am voicing my case about you, and it is rude to try to pin that on me

 

[Ace Marvel]

dw! it's much more productive and v helpful to us ❤. this makes a lot more sense than the wagon earlier.

was the last game your first maf game?

Here yes.

Short list

1. Lothitine
2. Ness
3. Teddy345
4. Feferily
5. Toads
6. Shawo
7. glow
8. Sensai
9. Heyden
10. Aerious
11. Daniel
12. Pinkshade
13. Mayor Leaf
14. Frogslime
15. Bianca
16. Punchy
17. Epona

 

[shawo]

Toads I took your comment as a personal attack too, not a harsh one albeit.

The reason I say that is because you said that I wasn't being honest and compared me to someone you (presumably) dislike.

that really didn't feel like it had anything to do with my posts and it did come out super aggressive.

Like obviously I didn't mind it but... I think saying that it wasn't a personal attack isn't really true.

Just because you've been more harsh in the past doesn't inherently mean that it still isn't true...

 

[Aerious]

please someone speak on this, because I'm not gonna be labeled like this for ISO-ing posts and playing this game, i'm sorry if you think its a personal attack that I keep misspelling your name, but it's not... my computer keeps changing your name to serious so I improvised and I've done it with other people.

I have personally attacked people in the past and there is a stark contrast to then and now. Do not use accusations like this so willy nilly just because I am voicing my case about you, and it is rude to try to pin that on me

i'm not saying that you attacked me, and i sincerely apologize if you thought i meant that. misspelling doesn't offend me, it was just a little odd. i don't know your past and i'm coming into this game blind of metas. i'm saying towards shawo made me uncomfortable, which is 100% the truth, regardless of if you attacked me or not. i will be more cautious of what i say

Here yes.

that makes substantially more sense why you attempted a wagon. why are there so many innos and only 2 null?