Mafia June 2020 Mafia Game Thread [DAY 2 ENDS AT 6/20 5PM PST]

[Lothitine]

who would you definitely not want to vote and why? and what’re your thoughts on the mostly heavily sussed players? agree or disagree with the cases?

Uh I think that my least sus is probably Epona,, they seem pretty competent and logical yknow?
That said I agree that Shawo and Punchy might be scum, and agree with most people who’ve been agreeing with that.

 

[epona]

oh wait u posted your reads

 

[toadsworthy]

explosive =/= being unwavering to your bull****. you don't get to sit on a soapbox and make these points about shawo and i when you haven't done anything productive. rn, if anything based on your replies/reaction to everything and constant avoidance, shawo is town-leaning and you're scum-leaning. at least shawo is willing to explain and defend himself, which is substantially more helpful to us as town. being defensive and emotional isn't enough for me to think someone is sus, especially when you were inappropriate. all of this is hypocrisy in my eyes, because you are equally guilty of the same thing you're accusing shawo of

no, you are explosive in jumping to using expletives at me. what constant avoidance? I have been one of the most active people here and I clearly don't shy away from anything. If you mean I'm not giving enough attention to you saying I have been derailing the thread, I responded saying that wasn't what I was doing in my reaction to when you first brought it up and I explained everything in my initial posts on shawo, I explained that when i woke up the next morning in the face of a huge wall post from shawo and quite frankly I don't want to revisit it because you wanted to bring up that I was personally attacking shawo, when I wasn't. I'm also not going to give attention to your tinfoil case about my actions... if I derailed the thread and you had a problem with it, why didn't you say it right then and there? why is it only now a big deal that I am publicly scum reading you. I'm also not gonna tolerate a case where you are just trying to pin what you think my motivations are for something when I've explained them over again, so if that makes me avoidant, then reword whatever question you have and calm down with expletives, because thats not gonna get your point across.

All of this has really only come up because I pushed a case on you, I looked at your posts and I stated how I felt on it and that it looked coasty and noncommittal to actually working towards a lynch candidate or scum hunting. That is my opinion, and I have not said anything else that deserves a lambasting by you like this. I do scum read shawo for the same reason, on top of he is hyper focusing on just like 1 or 2 points at a time, then easing down from it and not following through on anything later (like his case on me that just evaporated, also the ness case followed suit). There is no train of thought that even looks remotely town helpful or working towards deciding a lynch candidate... instead he has devoted two segments of posts to trying to start fights about mafia numbers, which I agree with Damniel that its really not something that should be a priority in talking about at that time and especially now so close to elimination

the posts you are questioning is my synopsis of why i have you as an elimination candidate for today, I'm not doing anything out of what any player should be

 

[Damniel]

Ace Marvel - Null/Town Lean

• I don't like how they were after a glow bandwagon for no apparent reason. Ness did ask why they were after this and he was ignored. Later asked again he was insistent that glow was the appropriate option so I'd like to see some explanation as to why. Tunnelling for no reason. Clarified as doing so to get reactions out of people.

Shawo - Scum Lean/Scum

• As toads pointed out yesterday, they entered the chat, talked about the mechanics of the game endlessly and arguing with toad about it. Randomly left a vote on Ace with no explanation. It seems awfully antagonistic. I've never played with them before so I'm not aware of their playstyle, but regardless I don't like it. When addressing their behaviour, they justify it with 'I think they were sus'.

Toads - Town Lean/Town

• Mainly due to their interaction with Shawo. It seemed evident to me that Toad was trying to scumhunt but was getting antagonised by Shawo

Also a quick scum list I guess:

• Shawo
• Ace
• Gelatin Brotha from anotha mutha /s

Ace Marvel - Null/Town Lean

• I don't like how they were after a glow bandwagon for no apparent reason. Ness did ask why they were after this and he was ignored. Later asked again he was insistent that glow was the appropriate option so I'd like to see some explanation as to why. Tunnelling for no reason. Clarified as doing so to get reactions out of people.

Shawo - Scum Lean/Scum

• As toads pointed out yesterday, they entered the chat, talked about the mechanics of the game endlessly and arguing with toad about it. Randomly left a vote on Ace with no explanation. It seems awfully antagonistic. I've never played with them before so I'm not aware of their playstyle, but regardless I don't like it. When addressing their behaviour, they justify it with 'I think they were sus'.

Toads - Town Lean/Town

• Mainly due to their interaction with Shawo. It seemed evident to me that Toad was trying to scumhunt but was getting antagonised by Shawo

2 of your 3 scum reads have turned town. teddy i’m not sure how you conclude with town from your explanation and the toads town read is on something that happened at the beginning of the game, before you posted your initial scum list

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that quoted too many times but the 4 posts are still there

 

[epona]

i like sensai's read on me

comes from a town pov imo

hard disagree, it's basically a copy paste of any suspicion anybody else has voiced on you to this point

 

[SensaiGallade]

Hey @SensaiGallade, how do you know what my scum playstyle looks like when the last time I was Mafia was in 2017 (a game you weren’t in either)?

I also thought that we were past Shawo=Antagonistic being a reason to scumlean him. Is that really all you’ve got?

You mean this game?

 

[Biancasbotique]

Foray I am townlocking Daniel because he placed 2nd on his MU championship and is now to semifinals. No scum will do that!

 

[epona]

Just posting my most prominent reads here. It probably won't amount to much.

Loth - Null/Town Lean

• Inclined to believe that naivety in the game is an indication of a townie, especially as a newer player. From my experience a new player as Mad would probably struggle to blend in and stay unseen to the town.

Ness - Null

• Hard to read as town and scum playstyles are very similar.

Toads - Town Lean/Town

• Mainly due to their interaction with Shawo. It seemed evident to me that Toad was trying to scumhunt but was getting antagonised by Shawo

Bianca - Null

• Can't get a good read on Bianca. Nothing is standing out in a bad way. Partial Town Lean

Feferily - Null/Town Lean
Lothitine - Null
Shawo - Scum Lean/Scum

• As toads pointed out yesterday, they entered the chat, talked about the mechanics of the game endlessly and arguing with toad about it. Randomly left a vote on Ace with no explanation. It seems awfully antagonistic. I've never played with them before so I'm not aware of their playstyle, but regardless I don't like it. When addressing their behaviour, they justify it with 'I think they were sus'.

Frogslime - Null
Punchy - Null/Scum Lean

• Very unmotivated. "Too much fluffy BS that will be discredited later" in relation to early game. I get the perspective but I'd expect something to contribute.

Mayor Leaf - Town
Pinkshade - Null/Town Lean

• Nothing said has convinced me that they're not town or scum. Newest posts incline town, possible AtE however as a new player that's not too likely.

Ace Marvel - Null/Town Lean

• I don't like how they were after a glow bandwagon for no apparent reason. Ness did ask why they were after this and he was ignored. Later asked again he was insistent that glow was the appropriate option so I'd like to see some explanation as to why. Tunnelling for no reason. Clarified as doing so to get reactions out of people.

If you're not here then I probably don't know what to think of you yet

ya this doesn't convince me not to vote for you

 

[SensaiGallade]

@SensaiGallade just went to vote you and you had self-voted. is that a placeholder or what

Doesn't have to be a placeholder

 

[Damniel]

Foray I am townlocking Daniel because he placed 2nd on his MU championship and is now to semifinals. No scum will do that!

what

 

[N e s s]

You mean this game?

I’ve wiped that game from my memory because it was ended due to Moonflrd being a knob with balancing.

 

[epona]

Foray I am townlocking Daniel because he placed 2nd on his MU championship and is now to semifinals. No scum will do that!

new york i love you but you're bringing me down. what kind of townread is this i-

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Doesn't have to be a placeholder

what does that even mean. please explain why you self-voted

 

[Ace Marvel]

I didn’t want to replace just yet because I had a feeling it was possible for the game to get better and I’m glad it seems I was correct in that although it happened much more quickly than I had originally thought but that’s a good thing

I hereby demand that we ignore @Pinkshade post about vote for me it's okay!

Now let's party!

 

[Aerious]

no, you are explosive in jumping to using expletives at me. what constant avoidance? I have been one of the most active people here and I clearly don't shy away from anything. If you mean I'm not giving enough attention to you saying I have been derailing the thread, I responded saying that wasn't what I was doing in my reaction to when you first brought it up and I explained everything in my initial posts on shawo, I explained that when i woke up the next morning in the face of a huge wall post from shawo and quite frankly I don't want to revisit it because you wanted to bring up that I was personally attacking shawo, when I wasn't. I'm also not going to give attention to your tinfoil case about my actions... if I derailed the thread and you had a problem with it, why didn't you say it right then and there? why is it only now a big deal that I am publicly scum reading you. I'm also not gonna tolerate a case where you are just trying to pin what you think my motivations are for something when I've explained them over again, so if that makes me avoidant, then reword whatever question you have and calm down with expletives, because thats not gonna get your point across.

All of this has really only come up because I pushed a case on you, I looked at your posts and I stated how I felt on it and that it looked coasty and noncommittal to actually working towards a lynch candidate or scum hunting. That is my opinion, and I have not said anything else that deserves a lambasting by you like this. I do scum read shawo for the same reason, on top of he is hyper focusing on just like 1 or 2 points at a time, then easing down from it and not following through on anything later (like his case on me that just evaporated, also the ness case followed suit). There is no train of thought that even looks remotely town helpful or working towards deciding a lynch candidate... instead he has devoted two segments of posts to trying to start fights about mafia numbers, which I agree with Damniel that its really not something that should be a priority in talking about at that time and especially now so close to elimination

the posts you are questioning is my synopsis of why i have you as an elimination candidate for today, I'm not doing anything out of what any player should be

expletives = cussing in general? when i've called you no names? the only point on your character i've made is that you're an emotional player, meaning you're more subjective than objective. you haven't been active at all, you've scumhunt TWO PEOPLE for the same reasons vs. contributed in conversation. you've made me uncomfortable the entire time we've been playing, and i'm not allowed to voice that? shawo flat out said it felt like a personal attack as well, you don't get to be the voice of reason for what's appropriate. i didn't want to get involved earlier bc it was intimidating/uncomfortable, and now i am involved, so i'm going to address my points

i feel like this is ultimately a waste of time and a common trend. no point to discuss this further

 

[toadsworthy]

@SensaiGallade stop, don't vote yourself, thats really dumb

 

[Biancasbotique]

what

It’s a joke . Just want to congratulate you again

 

[Ace Marvel]

@SensaiGallade not today! That is my power move! You can't vote for yourself. I forbid it! I will talk to your manager if necessary

 

[Biancasbotique]

Btw, Sensai history is always him being mislynched

 

[Ace Marvel]

And then you wonder why I am chaotic, everyone is stealing my gameplay.

 

[Damniel]

Btw, Sensai history is always him being mislynched

do you think that’s the case here?