Biancasbotique
Sweet Feather
Yes
Mafia June 2020 Mafia Game Thread [DAY 2 ENDS AT 6/20 5PM PST]
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not really interested in this, both you and toads have brought it up but that has no bearing on the rand this game
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
then vote whatre you waiting for
why then? what about sensai is pinging you as town?
waiting for him to explain his self-vote
Biancasbotique
Sweet Feather
I am not sure of his towniness, but What started the Sensai wagon? He seems to be easy target for mislynch
toadsworthy
Tangsworthy
typically when someone uses expletives, its a sign of aggression... you have been aggressive to me... thats not up for debate, thats how I am telling you that I am taking it. You can't talk your way out of how i feel and how I'm perceiving your very aggressive posts. All of which shifted after I spoke about my thoughts on your posts.
Shawo said he felt personally attacked by me because "I compared him to someone I don't like" and questioned his hoensty... I apologized first of all, I then also explained that I did not question his honesty, rather I made a joke that he seemed to not want to "have an honest conversation" because he avoided the questions I purposefully direct at him (which he didn't through multiple posts, or at least didn't quote me or give me an inclination that he read them or cared to). To me thats a different thing, I made a joke about his actions and not his character. When I told him I felt antagonized he refused to take any responsibility and justified his own actions (what you are saying I'm actually doing ironically) and two other users also agreed he was antagonizing, since he was voting me you can imagine I would feel targeted by all of this. But no, you don't want to acknowledge any of this. If you feel uncomfortable about a player or think a play style is breaking rules then go to the host and if I am truly out of line they will mod kill me... the truth is though I am not doing anything out of the scope of the game. If you just personally don't like my play style and my sense of humor then I'm sorry it makes you "uncomfortable", but that isn't my problem at that point when I'm within the rules and I have apologized and explained myself. Do not keep loading this on to me though, don't try to character assassinate me without at least acknowledging what I have done
and again all this from you only came about when I posted my thoughts and opinions about your posts. If you can't take the pressure of that, then mafia is not a game for you.
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
i don’t think he’s interested in solving the game, his scum list yesterday was unexplained, and now his old scum list contradicts his new reads
unless serious and toads i think you two need to just give it up since your arguments are now boring to read and will probably lead to a bigger heated argument
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honestly*
toadsworthy
Tangsworthy
also saying I've specifically only focused on 2 people... is not true
I had convos (albeit smaller) about my thoughts on Loth as she showed up, I had a convo about sensai, I usually talk to whoever is around when I have something to say
I want to know your thoughts on my play this whole time (you can just generalize the shawo points I made) I'm genuinely curious, and how that leads to your case about me being town... I have suspicions of you that are growing and obviously you are a good enough player that you can keep calm and composed
Its not that sensai is particularly town to me, its just the points I think people are scum reading him are pretty common and given his personality and past games I don't think its particularly strong of a reason... I think its just an easy case to make on him, but he acts like this all the time and so I don't think its as valid as everyone wants it to be
I had convos (albeit smaller) about my thoughts on Loth as she showed up, I had a convo about sensai, I usually talk to whoever is around when I have something to say
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I want to know your thoughts on my play this whole time (you can just generalize the shawo points I made) I'm genuinely curious, and how that leads to your case about me being town... I have suspicions of you that are growing and obviously you are a good enough player that you can keep calm and composed
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Its not that sensai is particularly town to me, its just the points I think people are scum reading him are pretty common and given his personality and past games I don't think its particularly strong of a reason... I think its just an easy case to make on him, but he acts like this all the time and so I don't think its as valid as everyone wants it to be
waiting to see their responses and if anything changes. we have 7 hours
nice way to directly go against what epona just said. i've been aggressive and standing up for myself in turn with the aggression i've experienced by you. maybe you're not used to people standing up for themselves. don't think you realize it, which is what makes it worse. i've apologized for anything i said that's been offensive, you absolutely refuse. not to mention with shawo, you compared his behavior to your triggers. it wasn't just the ex comment that was out of line. now you're attempting to belittle a returning player. i'm not continuing this discussion further after this
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
i said before i townread you because i believe it’s unlikely for scum to get into two dragged out debates with shawo and aerious which im tempted to both label as town v town due to the nature of the argument. i don’t like the vibe with you and aerious as it seems it’s just gonna get into a distracting, heated, and unproductive argument which i’m not interested in
toadsworthy
Tangsworthy
I will admit to not being able to speak much on glow (for really being stuck on trying to read her), epona (i actually view her as similarities to glow's play style which I have a hard time reading), anyone who is new, heyden (hard time reading him and been wrong lots int he past)
nice passive aggressiveness
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
i mean you can always change your vote
but what do you think of the fact that sensais two reads posts contradict each other and don’t show signs of actual progression
toadsworthy
Tangsworthy
bro stop trying to say that everything I do is a slight at someone
SensaiGallade
✨ Étoile 2020 ✨
If you want my honest opinion, I don't know what I'm doing, and its been a hot minute since I've played Mafia. Its not something I can jump back into with no issues. As I've said already I am feeling unmotivated and I'm really trying to get back into it, but I'm struggling to pick apart things for the towns benefit and gather actually useful reads and engage more. Buts its just going right over my head. I'm not fussed about being eliminated but I'd rather not actively work against town because that doesn't help anyone but scum.
And no this isnt an attempt t swindle anyone with AtE, so don't throw that my way.
And no this isnt an attempt t swindle anyone with AtE, so don't throw that my way.
toadsworthy
Tangsworthy
I feel like this is a bad reason tbh given my history. I have a tinfoil headcase that you are just trying to pocket me because you're scum and you know I can be a loose cannon
Damniel
Openly Wolfing
i think you two should just step away from each other and talk again D2 if you really wanted
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if you think i’m trying to pocket you then idk what to say. you could say any player townreading someone is pocketing but what’s the benefit
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can you explain your initial scum list yesterday and how that changed today
that's true. wanted my vote to be permanent and not prone to change. i'm going to be busy today, so i wanted to collect as much info as i can in case i can't come back to edit
sensei still reads scum-leaning to me. responses haven't entirely been productive, it feels like parroting, doesn't care if he dies. whereas pinkshade's response was eager and town-leaning, willing to help, and willing to sacrifice themselves to help us. the stark difference is why pinkshade is leaning more town and sensei is scum-leaning. it's the same with punchy being scum-leaning to me. none of the recent posts have helped plead his case
if you're maintaining that you're town, i would say that casting a self-vote is working actively against town
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@Aerious I got to be honest with you, reading your interaction with toad I feel like you're being unfair to him here, and to be frank I really don't think I see why you're so suspicious of him. He has a point in that you have way too many nulls. I can't speak for your experience with this game, but I agree with him in that you are being too wishy washy.
Anyway, I lean on eliminating SensaiGallade the most, but my gut is telling me that isn't right for some reason. I kinda... agree with Toads that he has a point about Aerious being too centrist. The thing that holds me back is that I can kind of give her the benefit of the doubt about their point on things not being the way they are not than they were in 2014 and she at least seems to have a genuine tone. I'd like to see some genuine content from her without arguing with Toads since I feel they're both being a little unfair to each other here. As I said Aerious, I think you're clogging the thread vs. Toads and I don't think you're really going anywhere with this and it would make things easier if you could make it easier for me to get a read on you.
Gut says Toads/Aerious is TownVTown but it would help if Aerious made her thoughts a little clearer. @toadsworthy If not aerious, who would you vote for elimination today? Are you still suspicious of Shawo or has that ship sailed
I've thought it over and I'm not sure if I can put shawo in townleans but rather nulls. I feel like... something ain't right there. I dunno if it's as townish as I think for him to have had that blast of emotion on me, but I don't think I can scumlean him for that since I still don't think it's easily faked as scum. Brain says town, gut says there's something wrong about that conclusion.
I don't see why people are voting Toads, either, which is something that is bothering me about Punchy since he won't say WHY he finds Toads (or really anyone else) suspicious other than "he wolfy." The Punchster keeps popping in to say a few comments that don't really lead to anything, and I don't know why he's saying he plans to "carry town" when like... why don't you start doing that now lol. He also keeps defending semi-popular wagons for no justification and it bothers me that he keeps saying "this is town [PLAYER]" rather than use any other logical conclusions. Just make your thoughts concise dude. He did this the last game where he kept making promises to be "carrying", and he still isn't doing that. I feel like if it is Punchy then he's definitely bussing someone here.
It bothers me that you seem confident that Sensai is a misLim. Bianca do you have any thoughts because I cannot tell where you stand
I'm leaning between Sensai/Punchy, and maybe Bianca/Aerious if either of them do not make their stances clearer (???) I feel like I need to reevaluate the people I'm townreading because I feel like someone isn't as town as I think
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