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Everyone deserves equal treatment c:
Or, treat people how you wanna be treated
that's my fav quote
Haha, I really like it! It sounds really cool...almost kind of mysterious "I'm ~on the spectrum~". And it seems pretty perfect, since a spectrum can include whatever without the initialism being like 60 letters long.
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It's great when people do their best to understand, even though asking can sometimes feel odd. Better than being ignorant, imo.
Why are pansexuals never included in the label?
I like to say LGBTQIAPIP+ though most people don't remember the term. I think pan and poly people are under the Q, but yeah it sucks were not on the main label
Okay so I knew I'd seen it before, but I just found it again now:
Some people use MOGAI, which is Marginalised Orientations, Gender Alignments, and Intersex. It's all inclusive, and is much easier to say and remember.
I dunno. I like it, but I don't think too many people use it, so then I'd have to explain.
Some people use MOGAI, which is Marginalised Orientations, Gender Alignments, and Intersex. It's all inclusive, and is much easier to say and remember.
I dunno. I like it, but I don't think too many people use it, so then I'd have to explain.
remiaphasia
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Pansexuality falls under the umbrella of bisexuality, so it is in the label. And if we included every single label in existence it'd be longer than the alphabet.
Some people are also working towards using queer as an empowering all-encapsulating term for people who are LGBTQ+.
Stevey Queen
The Queen of Mimosas
I don't think that would work. Queer has two definitions
1. Weird, which could be taken offensively
2. Gay, which only covers the homosexuals
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We should just call the lgbt community the GLOW people. Gay, Lesbian or Whatever. That way everything is covered without having to add letters and it's easy to pronounce and it's cute.
I guess the Whatever sounds harsh-ish though
remiaphasia
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Wait wait, so you take issue with the word "queer" because of it's former negative connotation, but support calling intersex, trans, bi/pan, genderqueer, and asexual persons "or whatever"? lol come now.
Also, queer doesn't only mean gay. It's a wide all encompassing political identity that's adopted by many people no matter where they fall on the spectrum.
Edit: I'm not attacking you or anything, was just saying xD
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Yeah, definitely. I think that queer has definitely been used as a slur in the past against gay people, but the whole movement of pushing queer as a positive word includes people who are not hetero-normative. Therefore, I think it's all encapsulating.
The whole reason of reclaiming queer is that essentially when an individual identifies as queer they are effectively saying "hey, yes, I am weird but that's okay"
remiaphasia
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Yes! This many times over.
Hana-Nezumi
Androgynous Male Rodent
Some people don't want to be seen as weird for their sexual orientation or gender. They want to be seen as normal and be accepted. In that sense I think using a word like queer may actually do more harm that good for LGBT+ acceptance because it further reinforces the notion that we're inherently different and strange. Also the problem with "reclaiming" words that used to be negative is that for some people it will always still hold that negative weight no matter how many people want to change it, as long as there are those still around who were greatly hurt by the word in the past.
That said, I don't have a problem with people identifying as "queer" if they want to... but it makes me a little uncomfortable when people try to use it as a broad term for people of various orientations, leading to terms like "queer youths" "queer politics" expanding it to include people who might not have wanted to choose that word for themselves.
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Stevey Queen
The Queen of Mimosas
It's fine. I know the whatever sounds rude.
But queer isn't Better . People have called the lgbt community weird and unnatural all the time. And that's the true definition of the word queer. So adopting it as a label for all of us is not the way to go. We are suppose to be proving to people that we are normal just like them.
You can be weird personality wise but our sexualities and gender identities shouldn't be treated as "queer". They are normal and the world needs to understand that.
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In my opinion it doesn't.
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This is my problem with using "queer" as the all encompassing term- some people just aren't comfortable with it. I personally don't mind it, but I tend not to use it unless I know the person I'm talking to is okay with it.
This.
Lady Timpani
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I've noticed a big disconnect among members of the community over this issue. While a lot of the people I know accept queer as a self-identifier, some of them hesitate to use queer as a catch all because of its history as a slur. I'm not really on one side or the other, but I do tend to use queer as opposed to LGBT+. I know others are pushing for MOGAI, but I think it's probably better to use a term that most people are familiar with, and MOGAI isn't catching on as much as its supporters would hope. LGBT is already used, and queer is gaining momentum, from what I've seen.
Yuki Nagato
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I've never heard the word 'queer' as a posititve word in the UK. Whether or not there is a charity trying to promote it doesn't matter: it's offensive. No gay person calls themself a queer.
I just feel that by continuing to view queer as a word that is hurtful and ostracizing, it's only further oppressing queer/LGBT+ people.
The way I see it is that by allowing myself to be hurt by the word queer I'm giving more power to the people who want to keep me oppressed. And also, when I decide to celebrate being called queer, I'm just celebrating that I am different, because according to the people who utilize queer as a slur, I am, and by celebrating that I'm empowering myself. But that's just me.
The way I see it is that by allowing myself to be hurt by the word queer I'm giving more power to the people who want to keep me oppressed. And also, when I decide to celebrate being called queer, I'm just celebrating that I am different, because according to the people who utilize queer as a slur, I am, and by celebrating that I'm empowering myself. But that's just me.
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