So, a nonbinary person like myself is considered trans. Saying trans* is basically saying that my identity is not included, even though trans does include my identity. It's like it sets identities that are trans from the umbrella. Idk how else to explain it. It basically implies that trans is binary exclusive.
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So, a nonbinary person like myself is considered trans. Saying trans* is basically saying that my identity is not included, even though trans does include my identity. It's like it sets identities that are trans from the umbrella. Idk how else to explain it. It basically implies that trans is binary exclusive.
unintentional
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I just don't it to become another Leelah thing on here.
ugh yeah :c
BlooBelle
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That's insane. I hope that the guilt of their actions drives them crazy once they realize what they've done.
Not getting involved with this latest argument since this thread seems unusually hostile right now. :L
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Sukuna my beloved
Ugh. Her parents don't even classify as humans as far as I'm concerned. They are more monsters.
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Everyone seems hostile. What a great way to start off the new year
radical6
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What honestly annoys me is that her parents think they can erase her identity, her history, and her grief. They don't want to look bad. I truly wonder if they feel sad at all for losing their daughter when they 1) got her age wrong, 2) caged her like an animal, 3) misgendered her and ignored her last wishes. I'm disgusted. They want to cover their tracks, and it angers me even more that they probably cared little about Leelah in the first place.
Also the pictures of people drawing Leelah flatchested is kind of...idk. Others are saying she MUST be drawn flatchested or you're disrespecting her but I thought in her suicide note she mentioned wanting to go on HRT??? whatever
Also the pictures of people drawing Leelah flatchested is kind of...idk. Others are saying she MUST be drawn flatchested or you're disrespecting her but I thought in her suicide note she mentioned wanting to go on HRT??? whatever
I feel like they probably care about her, but to an extent. Like obviously not enough to respect her, but I'm just really hoping that deep down somewhere her parents feel some type of remorse and that denial has to do with why they're continuing to disrespect her. Although I'm probably wrong, it's just hard to think about the fact that there are actually people in the world as disgusting and as ignorant as her parents.
unintentional
Sukuna my beloved
I feel that. But I feel like if they cant respect her after she died, just imagine what Leelah didn't tell us. I mean, what she said has been worse enough v~v I just hope she finally has peace <3
radical6
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Leelah described how she was shut off from the world while her siblings weren't. She didn't get to have a phone or social media for a year but her siblings did, and she had to beg her parents to let her talk to people. I mean yeah parents probably like one child a bit more than the other, but to make it so obvious how little you care about one child is gross. It's heartbreaking and absolutely ****s them up.
Yeah, that's true. And now if there is something else to be told it will probably never come out. But I really hope that there wasn't anything else, what she had to go through was already terrible enough.
Lady Timpani
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I don't exactly know what was going on with the other girl (other than what Justice described) but I know what it's like to have issues with parents on the subject. I grew up with a homophobic dad (I'm Bi-Sexual). It was constant chastisement from him. He'd be-little me for being a "lesbian", and only buy me male clothing so that he could make fun of me. I later came into foster care at about 15 and had foster parents who needed time to be open about it because it conflicted with their faith. After a few months of us just talking to each other we eventually became super open to the subject and it felt as if it was never an issue at all.
I'm not trying to make light of the dear's situation. Alls I'm saying is that if you yell loud enough your voice will be heard. I think one of the best things LGBTQ youth have to offer to them besides the amazing community support is actually foster care. It pains me to see how biased everyone is about it. No one actually understands foster care. But let me tell you, it is an amazing place to be. It's good to lay your head down and no longer have to be picked on. It's good to be accepted.
I'm also not saying to run away. But if you have extremely abusive parents people need to know about it.
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I'm not trying to make light of the dear's situation. Alls I'm saying is that if you yell loud enough your voice will be heard. I think one of the best things LGBTQ youth have to offer to them besides the amazing community support is actually foster care. It pains me to see how biased everyone is about it. No one actually understands foster care. But let me tell you, it is an amazing place to be. It's good to lay your head down and no longer have to be picked on. It's good to be accepted.
I'm also not saying to run away. But if you have extremely abusive parents people need to know about it.
PS. Backup is down.
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Lady Timpani
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Ninja'd haha. Should've read down a little, I guess.
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As far as Leelah's parents go, I can't say anything because I'm not them, but this girl in my marching band was abused by her parents for being trans. It got so bad that her older siblings stepped in and had her move in with them (I'm sure they probably threatened to report the parents), and I don't think they've once expressed remorse for their actions towards the girl.
People like that love the idea of what their child could be, not who they are, IMO. So like someone said earlier, they loved her to an extent and probably are hurting in some way. That doesn't excuse their actions towards Leelah at all, though.
I understand what you're saying about foster care, but it isn't always that great. I was in foster care when I was 13 and I went to 3 different homes. 1 of those homes was really mean and abusive and it took 3 months for my siblings and I to get out (at that point they finally let my grandparents take us).
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An issue I have with a lot of parents is that they treat their children as materialistic items for a great portion of their life. I'm not saying this is all parents but this is totally a reality and it bothers me. Your child is a person, and you of all people should accept them! A ton of crazy stuff has been floating around (conversion therapists etc..) and it pains me to see these kids go through that kind of stuff. It's wrong and it shouldn't be happening.
Not all foster parents are great, but not all of them are bad either! It's unfortunate but I truly believe people can make the best with the hands they're dealt. My siblings for example, have been through so many foster homes that there is no foster parent in the state of Florida who is willing to take them in. As a result they've been on the streets. But my siblings are total delinquents. So that's probably another story.
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I'm transgender, aromantic, and pansexual!! I'm out at work and at university just not to my parents. New Years Resolution, though!!
Hahahhahah oh man we're talking about something else. Sorry!! I was earlier in the thread and I thought we were all talkin about our different orientations. My baaad, my bad, continue the important discussion about Leelah Alcorn. Poor dear.
Hahahhahah oh man we're talking about something else. Sorry!! I was earlier in the thread and I thought we were all talkin about our different orientations. My baaad, my bad, continue the important discussion about Leelah Alcorn. Poor dear.
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