LGBTQA - Discussion and support.

[Moddie]

since when did everybody start assigning themselves titles in order to define their sexual orientation?

wouldnt the world be a better place if people were just left to love whomever
i mean it's not really anybody's business but your own

Labels help a lot of people. Before I knew about asexuality I thought I was broken. Being able to say that I'm asexual reminds me that I am not alone and that I am not broken. I no longer feel I need to 'fix' myself. It also helps being able to find others that are the same.

 

[radical6]

Oh god let's please just never do the "monosexual privilege" thing, it's beyond ridiculous.

You see the lesbians and gays are privileged (I will group them with straight people that's totally okay!!) because they aren't Poly sexual like us...!

It's just horizontal aggression and it's annoying as ****. People face homophobia in different ways, yes there is bipobia in lesbian and gay communities but there is lesbiphobia and whatever the gay guy one is called phobia in bi communities

 

[fup10k]

Labels help a lot of people. Before I knew about asexuality I thought I was broken. Being able to say that I'm asexual reminds me that I am not alone and that I am not broken. I no longer feel I need to 'fix' myself. It also helps being able to find others that are the same.

This 1000x.
Be thankful that you have to question why people make labels, and not the one relying on them to feel like you matter.

 

[Leela]

This is kind of a weird question, but I was genuinely wondering something. Let's say there is a person who was born as a female, but is transgender and identifies as male. He is only attracted to females. Does that make him straight because he is attracted to females and identifies as male? Is he gay because he is attracted to the same gender he was born as? Or is it more complicated than these two options?

 

[Zane]

This is kind of a weird question, but I was genuinely wondering something. Let's say there is a person who was born as a female, but is transgender and identifies as male. He is only attracted to females. Does that make him straight because he is attracted to females and identifies as male? Is he gay because he is attracted to the same gender he was born as? Or is it more complicated than these two options?

if you're a man that's only attracted to women you're straight..

 

[Stalfos]

This is kind of a weird question, but I was genuinely wondering something. Let's say there is a person who was born as a female, but is transgender and identifies as male. He is only attracted to females. Does that make him straight because he is attracted to females and identifies as male? Is he gay because he is attracted to the same gender he was born as? Or is it more complicated than these two options?

It only gets complicated for the people who feel a need to label everything.

 

[tae]

This is kind of a weird question, but I was genuinely wondering something. Let's say there is a person who was born as a female, but is transgender and identifies as male. He is only attracted to females. Does that make him straight because he is attracted to females and identifies as male? Is he gay because he is attracted to the same gender he was born as? Or is it more complicated than these two options?

as a trans man myself, i'd say he's straight because regardless of his genitals, he is a man. and he is interested in only women.


unlike me, who's pansexual and doesn't have any bias towards gender / identity what so ever.

 

[unintentional]

Okay, so I was born female. I don't /feel/ like I have a gender???? Like, I wear dresses when my mom makes me, but I just feel empty. My friends always talk about how amazing and girly they feel in them, but I feel empty. I feel broken vnv

 

[Moddie]

Okay, so I was born female. I don't /feel/ like I have a gender???? Like, I wear dresses when my mom makes me, but I just feel empty. My friends always talk about how amazing and girly they feel in them, but I feel empty. I feel broken vnv

Aww, that's awful. I'm sorry your mum makes you do that, but don't worry you're not alone. And you're definitely not broken. I felt terribly awkward when my mum made me wear dresses and do 'girly' things. Does wearing male clothes make you feel more 'boyish'? If not perhaps you're agender (genderless)?

 

[swimmergal98]

I am the B but my parents think i am S. Not sure how i will come out to them

 

[Fhyn_K]

I am not throwing this in to anyone's conversation, but for me labels are something that you should really only give to yourself. While the general labels are great for guidelines, figuring out an individual's business and what defines them does not help. When you really break the labels down, most people fall into a grey area and when you try to find an "official" way to name yourself, you cannot without adding an exception. Just live your truth and owe no one any explanation.

 

[Brackets]

also, I don't want to sound mega patronising but a lot of the people on here and tumblr and places worrying about labels seem to be pretty young, like 14-15. I know it's perfectly normal to have sexual feelings at that age, but a lot of people also just don't what they want or like at that age. I hardly had any sexual feelings or cared about sex at all until I was about 17, and I wasn't stressing about trying to label myself as asexual or something. I think some people should stop worrying and just wait and see who they like and don't like

 

[Bowie]

also, I don't want to sound mega patronising but a lot of the people on here and tumblr and places worrying about labels seem to be pretty young, like 14-15. I know it's perfectly normal to have sexual feelings at that age, but a lot of people also just don't what they want or like at that age. I hardly had any sexual feelings or cared about sex at all until I was about 17, and I wasn't stressing about trying to label myself as asexual or something. I think some people should stop worrying and just wait and see who they like and don't like

I agree, kinda. You shouldn't worry about stuff like that, but that is around the time you start learning or accidentally discovering such subjects, and I think it's important young people are educated on it so you don't get into trouble with unsafe sex and stuff like that. In a perfect world, you don't have to get so worked up over silly things like that, but I think that if you're gonna do it, you should be taught how to in the right way, and in the process, learn about your own sexuality.

 

[Leela]

also, I don't want to sound mega patronising but a lot of the people on here and tumblr and places worrying about labels seem to be pretty young, like 14-15. I know it's perfectly normal to have sexual feelings at that age, but a lot of people also just don't what they want or like at that age. I hardly had any sexual feelings or cared about sex at all until I was about 17, and I wasn't stressing about trying to label myself as asexual or something. I think some people should stop worrying and just wait and see who they like and don't like

I agree that people are still figuring out who/what they like at this age, but I still feed the need to label myself as asexual. I don't like how there are so many labels, but when virtually everyone around me (at school) seems to have done something sexual or at least wants to, and always make fun of me for not being interested in that kind of thing, labelling myself as asexual reminds me that not everyone has sexual feelings. I remember that I'm not 'broken' by not being interested in sex. I know things might change as I get older, but for now I label myself as asexual because otherwise people seem to just think it's funny and tease me about it.

I know I shouldn't feel under that much pressure to label myself, but I'm insecure about it due to a lack of understanding or acceptance from peers. It just makes me feel like I 'belong' somewhere and there are other people like me.

 

[Finnian]

I really hate it when my extended family posts anti-gay bullcrap on facebook just to spite me.
Then turn around with crap like this:
"We understand your point of view, but for me and my brother / family, we don't support gay marriage. Yes we love you and we love people as they are, but we also believe that even if the world's standards change, God's standards won't. We choose to have faith that God knows what he's doing and if he says gay marriage does not follow his plan, then we choose to follow it. Sorry if that offends you."
Then proceed to quote scripture.
I really, really cannot stand the LDS church. Utah is probably the worst place for me to live.

 

[Bowie]

I really hate it when my extended family posts anti-gay bullcrap on facebook just to spite me.
Then turn around with crap like this:
"We understand your point of view, but for me and my brother / family, we don't support gay marriage. Yes we love you and we love people as they are, but we also believe that even if the world's standards change, God's standards won't. We choose to have faith that God knows what he's doing and if he says gay marriage does not follow his plan, then we choose to follow it. Sorry if that offends you."
Then proceed to quote scripture.
I really, really cannot stand the LDS church. Utah is probably the worst place for me to live.

In your position, I would legitimately start trying to offend them by posting atheism things. Even if I wasn't an atheist (I don't like being called one, but I technically am one) I'd do it just for revenge. I know it's wrong, but it would be hard to keep myself from it.

 

[boujee]

I really hate it when my extended family posts anti-gay bullcrap on facebook just to spite me.
Then turn around with crap like this:
"We understand your point of view, but for me and my brother / family, we don't support gay marriage. Yes we love you and we love people as they are, but we also believe that even if the world's standards change, God's standards won't. We choose to have faith that God knows what he's doing and if he says gay marriage does not follow his plan, then we choose to follow it. Sorry if that offends you."
Then proceed to quote scripture.
I really, really cannot stand the LDS church. Utah is probably the worst place for me to live.

Just shrug it off. The bible is rewritten numerous times, over and over and over again. One scripture could be totally different than another. If they were actual true to what God says, they should also pay attention to the little things he says. Such as to not judge, if you want to get married to a person of the same gender then they have no right to speak of it cause they have no place to do so. They have to love you no matter what, you loving the same gender shouldn't even be a excuse. "I still love you but I don't approve of it", nada. You get the full package or GTFO. It is what it is.

 

[Finnian]

And god's law doesn't change??
How about ALL the doctrine that has changed. Just because your cult leader says it doesn't change, doesn't mean it doesn't change.
How about all of this?
Or i don't know, calling for the death of gay people, but now you can just hate gay people, as long as you say you don't.
Or you know, up until the 1970's, black people were cursed and evil, but can now go through your crazy temples?

Why did I baptize myself into this hate cult?

- - - Post Merge - - -

You know, i'm not going around posting anti-mormon things.
It just really hurts, you know?

When i was active in your church, I tried killing myself 3 times, I burnt the crap out of my leg, i couldn't eat, i couldn't sleep.
God never brought me happiness.
You know hat did? What FINALLY straightened me out, made me feel like I was actually worth something, and got me off of pain killers?
My fiance. My SAME-SEX fiance.
Something the LDS church could never do.

Let's not get started on gay teen suicide rates in utah.

- - - Post Merge - - -

Just shrug it off. The bible is rewritten numerous times, over and over and over again. One scripture could be totally different than another. If they were actual true to what God says, they should also pay attention to the little things he says. Such as to not judge, if you want to get married to a person of the same gender then they have no right to speak of it cause they have no place to do so. They have to love you no matter what, you loving the same gender shouldn't even be a excuse. "I still love you but I don't approve of it", nada. You get the full package or GTFO. It is what it is.

it's really hard too when this is my family.
Mormons are mean as sin.

- - - Post Merge - - -

In your position, I would legitimately start trying to offend them by posting atheism things. Even if I wasn't an atheist (I don't like being called one, but I technically am one) I'd do it just for revenge. I know it's wrong, but it would be hard to keep myself from it.

I'm not atheist though lmao.
I believe in god and jesus, just not the mormon god and jesus.
I want to, but I also don't want to create a divide in my family.
My mom's already disowned my cousin for spewing antig-gay things and I don't wanna make it worse.

 

[boujee]

But your happiness depends on you.
You can choose to listen to what they say to build up this mood that you hate or you can do what you believe is comfortable for you.
If you're happy with the person you're with then put your main focus on that, forget everything else.
Don't hurt yourself over the hypocrite attuides of other.

Haha, Maybe read this:
http://calico-kat.tumblr.com/post/31351611277/that-awkward-moment-when-theres-a-gay-couple-in

 

[Finnian]

But your happiness depends on you.
You can choose to listen to what they say to build up this mood that you hate or you can do what you believe is comfortable for you.
If you're happy with the person you're with then put your main focus on that, forget everything else.
Don't hurt yourself over the hypocrite attuides of other.

Haha, Maybe read this:
http://calico-kat.tumblr.com/post/31351611277/that-awkward-moment-when-theres-a-gay-couple-in

This is the best.
I'm gonna post it to facebook to piss of my cousins

Thank you bb.
;v;