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Would you be upset if you were a heterosexual and you went to a "gay" beach with your bf and some homosexual men were checking out your bf? Because apparently it upset my friend and she posted a really ignorant and offensive fb post about it that attacked the entire gay community just because a few checked out her bf.

...But that's a compliment to her boyfriend. If other people find him attractive, that's a compliment to him and her, that he's attractive, and she has him :D
 
...But that's a compliment to her boyfriend. If other people find him attractive, that's a compliment to him and her, that he's attractive, and she has him :D

That's what I said to her but she still said stupid stuff like "straight people aren't safe anywhere anymore". I kinda wanted to punch her..
 
That's what I said to her but she still said stupid stuff like "straight people aren't safe anywhere anymore". I kinda wanted to punch her..

Could you not point out heterosexual guys are normally far worse with girls? And who would assume a guy on a gay beach is straight?


What do you call them then

Trans is normally the most polite thing to call them.
 
is the word tranny offensive

im cis ( i guess?? idk tbh) so i cant really say much about it but if youre cis i probably wouldnt use it. its fine for trans folks to use it because its a slur to them and they can reclaim it if that makes sense? (doesnt mean all of them like it tho) but yeah i would avoid using that.

someone called me homophobic for not liking macklemore and they were straight too btw. this is incredible
 
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Could you not point out heterosexual guys are normally far worse with girls? And who would assume a guy on a gay beach is straight?

I pointed out that everyone is guilty of checking one another out and that its hypocritical and offensive to single out homosexuals like that. I don't know why she made a big deal out of it but she disagreed with me and denied that she said anything offensive.
 
I only learned tranny was offensive earlier this year myself.

I pointed out that everyone is guilty of checking one another out and that its hypocritical and offensive to single out homosexuals like that. I don't know why she made a big deal out of it but she disagreed with me and denied that she said anything offensive.

She doesn't sound as though she should be on a gay beach, or around gays, or let out in public.
 
Would you be upset if you were a heterosexual and you went to a "gay" beach with your bf and some homosexual men were checking out your bf? Because apparently it upset my friend and she posted a really ignorant and offensive fb post about it that attacked the entire gay community just because a few checked out her bf.

The anger and hostility would appear to stem from insecurities which she's been unable to resolve. This incident provided her a vehicle she could use to vocalize the hate she holds in her heart. A side effect of the growing acceptance of the LGBT is the internalization of the hate that an individual feels towards that demographic. For example, racism hasn't disappeared from society because certain attitudes are no longer socially acceptable. Oddly enough, many racists don't even see themselves or actions they take as racist. They're easily spotted after hearing news stories about muggings, murders, rapes, etc because of how they respond. The quintescential question they often ask gives them away; "Were they black?". Physical chacteristics do not predispose behavior, criminal or otherwise. There are other factors in relation to behavior.

This brings us back to your friend's behavior. She's a bigot and likely felt a euphoric feeling after writing her diatribe. Later she'll probably say she didn't mean it, she was just upset, etc. She might even delete her post out of embarrassment. The question you need to ask yourself is what YOU are going to do about it. You can remain silent and allow her offensive speach to go unchallenged. Or you can privately or publically confront her and let her know you were offended.

Option one is probably the easiest for you but your silence makes you complicit with her sentiments. She'll assume those who don't challenge her agree with her sentiments in their silence. The second choice is to challenge her and let her know how you feel. Believe it or not, it's easier than it sounds. Just tell her you understand she was upset, but that her statements were offensive.
 
I pointed out that everyone is guilty of checking one another out and that its hypocritical and offensive to single out homosexuals like that. I don't know why she made a big deal out of it but she disagreed with me and denied that she said anything offensive.

if she's a gay basher why are you wasting your time talking to her? #logic
if one of my 'friends' said some **** like that they'd sure be getting boot out the backdoor.

@sockhead i am transgender and you can call me tranny all you want b/cos sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me :)
 
The anger and hostility would appear to stem from insecurities which she's been unable to resolve. This incident provided her a vehicle she could use to vocalize the hate she holds in her heart. A side effect of the growing acceptance of the LGBT is the internalization of the hate that an individual feels towards that demographic. For example, racism hasn't disappeared from society because certain attitudes are no longer socially acceptable. Oddly enough, many racists don't even see themselves or actions they take as racist. They're easily spotted after hearing news stories about muggings, murders, rapes, etc because of how they respond. The quintescential question they often ask gives them away; "Were they black?". Physical chacteristics do not predispose behavior, criminal or otherwise. There are other factors in relation to behavior.

This brings us back to your friend's behavior. She's a bigot and likely felt a euphoric feeling after writing her diatribe. Later she'll probably say she didn't mean it, she was just upset, etc. She might even delete her post out of embarrassment. The question you need to ask yourself is what YOU are going to do about it. You can remain silent and allow her offensive speach to go unchallenged. Or you can privately or publically confront her and let her know you were offended.

Option one is probably the easiest for you but your silence makes you complicit with her sentiments. She'll assume those who don't challenge her agree with her sentiments in their silence. The second choice is to challenge her and let her know how you feel. Believe it or not, it's easier than it sounds. Just tell her you understand she was upset, but that her statements were offensive.

I did challenge her as well as some other people. We made our points clear on how it was offensive and she just ended up defending herself with contradictory comments. She wouldn't understand our argument and claimed we were the ones in the wrong so we pretty much gave up.

@Jake, I pretty much booted her out a long time ago because she's annoying. This pretty much ended it for good. I only commented on her status because I felt like I needed to defend the homosexuals.
 
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It's unfortunate she wasn't able to see reason, but not at all unexpected. You did more than just defend the homosexuals, you stood up for human decency. When any of us is dehumanized we are all damaged. And when good people defend against bigotry and intolerance we are all enriched.
 
@Jake, I pretty much booted her out a long time ago because she's annoying. This pretty much ended it for good. I only commented on her status because I felt like I needed to defend the homosexuals.

not to be rude but if you're still fb friends w/ her then clearly you haven't.
 
Sigh once again got to the point where I just want to punch someone. It's NOT acceptable to ask trans persons 'real name' (by that I mean their birth name but some people call it their real name and I'm like what?? Their preferred name IS their real name).
I got asked that by someone, who I thought was a good friend, and it just came out of nowhere. It's not their business, so why would they ask? If they knew it, they could slip it by accident and out me to someone which is the worst thing because I'm stealth irl. People should be taught what stuff is not okay to ask, since it's not their business. Same goes to asking about someones genitals, you don't ask cis person about their genitals so why would you ask about trans person? Is it just because they're trans? Unless you're going to have sex with someone, their genitals are not your business.

Also never use tranny, shemale, c-boy etc. when talking about transgender people. I think it goes for cis AND trans people. It's like "I can say *** because I'm gay" thing. I find those words very offensive, I don't care who says them.

Sorry about ranting, but I'm just... mad that people aren't educated enough on this matter as it just keeps happening all the time. We are not here to educate them all the time, but we should not explode into someones face, unless they are knowingly being offensive.
 
fckh8 is so bad. its so cheesy. this is why i dont trust allies half the time. god dang. (coughs macklemore, lady gaga)

also saw some people talk about a new way to describe lgbt*qia*p i think it was called GSRM? so we dont leave out stuff y'know. (gender, sexual, and romantic minorities)
which i think is pretty cool. it includes everyone without a very long acronym.

I can somewhat see your point with gaga but people who dislike 'allies' because they're not a part of the Lgbt community themselves is ludacris, it's literally telling an animal adviocist they can't help, they're not an animal..they don't understand Before you even say I'm comparing people in the LGBT community to animals, I'm not even though I'd say animals seem to be the more sane ones on this planet.
 
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