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wow I'm so confused xD I didn't see this argument coming
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;_; Even though it's kind of different, I could probably never tell my family I'm bi... They're pretty religious... u_u Only my two cousins around my age know, lol.
(I've only ever had boyfriends anyway... :S there are mostly only straight girls near me)
may I ask, mtf or ftm?
Look i get both sides of the debate i really do
But as a t-girl its mentally exhausting, to fight hate with more hate, i don't want to do that.. I want to show them just how bad they are looking.. i'm not going to retaliate, on how i hate cis people or whatever.. because i don't hate cis people, i don't dislike them, i love Cis people, most have been so supportive of me, and as i've said before, i've found it harder to mix with other trans people to be perfectly honest. I hate those who opress me, yes they are nearly all the time, Cis, but lets be honest, i've heard gay people say transphobic comments aswell.. Yes i know they aren't the ones in the authority, but they still do. At the end of the day i'll always say it, and i KNOW i'm in the minority. But the constant hating on cis people (though i dont see why they should be offended because get over it, we face hate in real life) is just not productive, and only makes lots of people see us as envious people who are just jealous of cis people.. and therefore shout out at them
Target those who specifically opress people, target those people you hear make a nasty comment, if you do, do it. But most of the time these social justice warriors on tumblr do **** all, apart from moan on tumblr and spread hate. Yes of course i understand life is hell, BUT theres just no need for it, stand up when you need to stand up for people. The other day i defended a gay person against another, but i certainly dont feel the need to constantly go on about my cause, i am who i am, that is that, if i heard an awful comment i would, but other than that no. Though i am somewhat in a more benefical situation due to beginning everything young, and being able to pass
My views could change, when everyone knows and i do recieve hate though
I just think through peaceful protesting, and through showing people that we are just as normal as them, we are the same, and we are loveful human beings, thats the best way to go
Just how theres that awful view that Lesbians are just "man haters" i dont want it to end up where its trans people are just cis haters and bitter and envious people
I dont know if what i've said makes sense really, and i know loads dont agree with me, but thats it.
But as a t-girl its mentally exhausting, to fight hate with more hate, i don't want to do that.. I want to show them just how bad they are looking.. i'm not going to retaliate, on how i hate cis people or whatever.. because i don't hate cis people, i don't dislike them, i love Cis people, most have been so supportive of me, and as i've said before, i've found it harder to mix with other trans people to be perfectly honest. I hate those who opress me, yes they are nearly all the time, Cis, but lets be honest, i've heard gay people say transphobic comments aswell.. Yes i know they aren't the ones in the authority, but they still do. At the end of the day i'll always say it, and i KNOW i'm in the minority. But the constant hating on cis people (though i dont see why they should be offended because get over it, we face hate in real life) is just not productive, and only makes lots of people see us as envious people who are just jealous of cis people.. and therefore shout out at them
Target those who specifically opress people, target those people you hear make a nasty comment, if you do, do it. But most of the time these social justice warriors on tumblr do **** all, apart from moan on tumblr and spread hate. Yes of course i understand life is hell, BUT theres just no need for it, stand up when you need to stand up for people. The other day i defended a gay person against another, but i certainly dont feel the need to constantly go on about my cause, i am who i am, that is that, if i heard an awful comment i would, but other than that no. Though i am somewhat in a more benefical situation due to beginning everything young, and being able to pass
My views could change, when everyone knows and i do recieve hate though
I just think through peaceful protesting, and through showing people that we are just as normal as them, we are the same, and we are loveful human beings, thats the best way to go
Just how theres that awful view that Lesbians are just "man haters" i dont want it to end up where its trans people are just cis haters and bitter and envious people
I dont know if what i've said makes sense really, and i know loads dont agree with me, but thats it.
ah i understand. idk most ? people venting about cis people are teenagers and they cant really do any real life activism if theyre living in a dangerous situation. they might run 101 blogs or safespaces for trans people so i dont think thats bad. online activism is just as helpful as real life. hey, without online activism i probably wouldve never known anything i know today. and idk i am bitter towards cis people sometimes but thats mostly only when im upset and i just say cis people in general instead of my friends or family. all the cis people i know in real life are rude to me and dont understand like anything at all. i cant really explain it but i do stop them from being homophobic or saying silly things. but when it comes to telling them to stop being cissexist or transphobic its like way harder because trans people get no coverage. they don't understand the idea. its just so frustrating for me. its great that you have supporting cis people in your life, but not everyone has the same opportunity as you.
im not saying we should go out and attack them but im saying. like im not going to say "hey you, thats really offensive, but you're not a bad person so dont feel bad" ??? or like im just so annoyed of activism that reminds the oppressors that theyre not THAT bad. or when people tell us if we were just really peaceful it would work. it doesnt. we can speak with words but they wont be pleasant is what im trying to say. when i want to call out a group im not going to comfort them and try not to hurt their feelings - im going to be hard about it because its the truth.
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Kinda hope this isn't aimed at me, because if standing up for civil rights and specifically mentioning Harvey Milk while doing so is enough to get reprimanded for it, then...I don't even know how that makes me feel. :/
I think you're maybe being a little too pessimistic. Maybe it doesn't seem to be doing much right now, but I think it'll work in the future. To a lot of cis people, these concepts are slowly and gradually becoming more accepted. It took centuries to end African slavery in the US, so... I just don't think this problem is getting any worse as a whole, lol.
its not getting worse but its not getting better. for gay and lesbian people its gotten a bit better with more acceptance, but trans people and the rest of the LGBT+ are still in the shadows. not too sure about bisexuals/pansexuals because there is a lot of biphobia in the gay and lesbian community. that and theyre still rejected by straight people but back to the point, trans people have always been working for activism but its just now that theyre starting to get recognized for it. honestly i dont get how these concepts are hard for cis people but i guess we pushed this binary on everyone for so long its weird for them. like cis people have a hard time using new pronouns for someone but when they assume your dog is a guy and you say its a girl they go "oh sorry" and quickly use female pronouns. why is it so different for trans people? i dont expect trans people to quickly become accepted next year when gay people still arent accepted everywhere, but if we could have the same activism as gay people have it would be cool.
Well, unless you're staring at a dog's belly, it's harder to tell if another kind of animal is male or female. We humans tend to notice the more obvious differences in appearance, and it's kind of 'default' to assume something based on someone's outer appearances, until you learn that their gender identity is different from what they look like they are. For some people, it's hard to adjust to the person's preferred pronoun because of their mental concept/framework of what people of certain genders look like.
...Regarding trans activism being recognized, I still think that it's SOME sort of progress. I believe it'll get somewhere eventually, but you are making it seem like you think things won't ever get better.
But Tsundere, equally just because you have experienced a lot of people making nasty comments, does not mean that it is as bad as you are making it out to be, just as because ive had a lot of support, does not mean its easy
Yes theres bigots, but we are making progress, i mean hell, look at the women making progress in the media! not so long ago all we would see is people on Jerry Springer ripping a trans womans hair out and calling her a man
Just as the LGB, is gaining more acceptance, so will everything else, it will just take time
which is why a postivie attitude needs to be employed imo, we all already face enough negativity, through our problems, so we dont need more to worry about imo
now theres Janet Mock, Laverne Cox, Carmen Carrera, Kim Petras
Yes theres bigots, but we are making progress, i mean hell, look at the women making progress in the media! not so long ago all we would see is people on Jerry Springer ripping a trans womans hair out and calling her a man
Just as the LGB, is gaining more acceptance, so will everything else, it will just take time
which is why a postivie attitude needs to be employed imo, we all already face enough negativity, through our problems, so we dont need more to worry about imo
now theres Janet Mock, Laverne Cox, Carmen Carrera, Kim Petras
im trying to say is that their venting is justified. i dont look at things optimistically like other people but i have seen so many trans people on tumblr upset and crying about their life and transphobia. i dont expect other trans people to be all cheery about it either. hey im pretty happy that we have lovely ladies like janet mox and carmen carrera. im glad we have a trans woman of color on a tv show played by a real trans woman of color. thats great! i know good things are happening, and its amazing. but i wish i saw more. for every story about a trans person doing something great theres like 3 stories that are transphobic. i wish i could look on the bright side but thats pretty much not my character because outside of sj issues i dont look on the bright side either lol.
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Oh hai mark
Ok this has been too much. Let me know when this arguement is over.
Uh, no, it wasn't aimed at you.
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Also, today is International Transgender Day of Visibility c:
And as the T i didnt even know :c
My friend is BI and she fall in love with me (whut). Meh doesn't matter she is my close friend. No, I'm not BI.
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I was goofing off for fun in net and a lot of my internet friends think I'm a guy huehuehue. I also goof off that i fall inlove a guy/girl while in game like dota and they think I'm BI LOOOL
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