LGBTQA - Discussion and support.

[Titi]

oh the trials and tribulations of falling in love with a straight girl.

I guess you can't help you fall in love with. Sometimes I wish I could. Sometimes I feel like I'm just being cruel and torturing her with some of my more sincere and intense feelings.

I'm mean.

Gurl tell me about it. Been there.

 

[Mephisto Pheles]

a bit unrelated but i think that the acronym "mogii" (Marginalized Orientations, Gender Identities, and Intersex) is a good replacement for both the lgbtq acronym and the word queer in general, taking down the problem of straight people complaining about the ""long acronym"" and the fact that queer is still a slur even if reclaimed and should only be a self-identifier (and not used by straight people). what do you all think?

I've never heard of that acronym... Personally, I like it. But I don't think it would catch on, even if it's more convenient.
The acronym LGBT has been around for a long time, so I doubt even people who are LGBT+ themselves would be very willing to change what they call the community. People hate change.

 

[Zeiro]

a bit unrelated but i think that the acronym "mogii" (Marginalized Orientations, Gender Identities, and Intersex) is a good replacement for both the lgbtq acronym and the word queer in general, taking down the problem of straight people complaining about the ""long acronym"" and the fact that queer is still a slur even if reclaimed and should only be a self-identifier (and not used by straight people). what do you all think?

queer is only a slur when cis people use it derogatorily.

and nobody wants to use "mogii" because the creator of mogii wanted to include child molesters and sex offenders into the group.

 

[Mephisto Pheles]

queer is only a slur when cis people use it derogatorily.

and nobody wants to use "mogii" because the creator of mogii wanted to include child molesters and sex offenders into the group.

Wha-?? Really?

 

[Liquid Ocelot]

I am bisexual.

Why is something so simple, so hard to explain to people. I'm not straight, I'm not gay, and the person that I'm in a relationship with doesn't mean I've "chosen a side". I just love them. Because they're them. I am still bi despite that.

afjsklajfkas; /ranting

 

[MozzarellaSticks]

a bit unrelated but i think that the acronym "mogii" (Marginalized Orientations, Gender Identities, and Intersex) is a good replacement for both the lgbtq acronym and the word queer in general, taking down the problem of straight people complaining about the ""long acronym"" and the fact that queer is still a slur even if reclaimed and should only be a self-identifier (and not used by straight people). what do you all think?

Kind of neat idea, but I'm done with new names and acronyms and things. I'll just stick with what exists.

 

[goodra]

mogii is fine, it sounds really weird but it covers everything. i won't use it though, no new acronym has caught on, and i doubt this one will either, but if it did then i guess i'd use it

everyone is so used to the current one, i doubt it will change soon. getting a community as big as this one to agree on one name will be hard

and nobody wants to use "mogii" because the creator of mogii wanted to include child molesters and sex offenders into the group.

wasn't that with gsm? or did it happen with this one too? that happening once is too much already, gross

 

[Hana-Nezumi]

I am bisexual.

Why is something so simple, so hard to explain to people. I'm not straight, I'm not gay, and the person that I'm in a relationship with doesn't mean I've "chosen a side". I just love them. Because they're them. I am still bi despite that.

afjsklajfkas; /ranting

It's because they're just ignorant and don't want to even try to understand.

 

[cismouse]

wait, really? i didn't know the whole backstory of the mogii acronym. my bad. i just get really annoyed when cishet people try and use the long acronym against people who fall under it (ex. people mocking it by adding keysmash, saying things like lgbwhatever)
but there are a lot of lgbtqia people who feel uncomfortable around the word "queer" because it's a slur? like ****, or some other word like that. people who those words are used against can use them, but people who they are not used against shouldn't be allowed to use them. queer has a lot broader range than some reclaimed slurs, but that doesn't mean cishet people should be allowed to use it (in a derogatory way or not)
i guess another point was that mogii could solve the problem of everybody arguing over wether a stood for ally or asexual, which gets really tiring tbh

 

[n64king]

I don't like the word Queer. It makes me think of the f word (cigarette). Not to mention the image it puts in my head is obnoxious. I don't like **** either, it puts a bad image in my head too.

 

[Zeiro]

wasn't that with gsm? or did it happen with this one too? that happening once is too much already, gross

i actually can't remember ahaha and i can't find any information on it. it's probably gsm, my bad.

i guess another point was that mogii could solve the problem of everybody arguing over wether a stood for ally or asexual, which gets really tiring tbh

the 'a' has always stood for 'asexual', whoever thinks it stands for 'ally' is a butt

I don't like the word Queer. It makes me think of the f word (cigarette). Not to mention the image it puts in my head is obnoxious. I don't like **** either, it puts a bad image in my head too.

i was just saying some people use it to describe themselves (e.g. genderqueer)

 

[radical6]

idk i try not to refer to non-het people as qu**r since it's still used as a slur. but i wish there was a general word for everyone in the LGBTQIA+ community that isnt a slur.

 

[GameLaxer]

idk i try not to refer to non-het people as qu**r since it's still used as a slur. but i wish there was a general word for everyone in the LGBTQIA+ community that isnt a slur.

Some people in the community are ok with being called queer because they may feel like other acronyms or labels don't define them. However, being that it is used a slur sometimes, I think people can have misconceptions regarding the word. It's all about usage and desired intent when using the word...and that goes for a lot of words, too. Language is constantly evolving to normalize certain "outlandish" words that are viewed as negative and vice versa.

 

[Mephisto Pheles]

idk i try not to refer to non-het people as qu**r since it's still used as a slur. but i wish there was a general word for everyone in the LGBTQIA+ community that isnt a slur.

Unfortunately, so long as homophobia/transphobia/etc exists, that won't happen. :/ Bigots will twist any word the LGBTQIA+ community comes up with to mean something negative.

I think it's fine to call someone queer if the person you're referring to personally identifies as such, though. I mean, it'd be pretty rude to refuse to call them what they want to be called, too. lol

 

[GameLaxer]

I am bisexual.

Why is something so simple, so hard to explain to people. I'm not straight, I'm not gay, and the person that I'm in a relationship with doesn't mean I've "chosen a side". I just love them. Because they're them. I am still bi despite that.

afjsklajfkas; /ranting

I can completely understand. You just love the person for being the person, not the gender. Obviously, gender does play a role in some aspects, as there are obvious differences, but it's not about the parts...it's about the hearts! XD I used to identify as bisexual, but now I identify as a lesbian...however, I believe that sexuality is a spectrum and that anyone has the potential to fall in love with anyone else, some have slimmer chances than others, obviously, but I think that it is human nature to love and be loved.

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I've heard a term greysexual to describe something similar. Basically it's when someone rarely feels sexual attraction and is predominantly asexual. Like falling between asexual and not. I've mainly seen it used when people can't feel sexual attraction until love is established.

I've also heard of terms like bi/homo/hetero-romantic asexual etc. meaning that someone can fall in love with another person, but may not experience sexual attraction. Another example would be bi-romantic homosexual (which I think I could possibly be, though I identify as a lesbian), where you can fall in love with both genders, but only are sexually attracted to your own.

 

[Mephisto Pheles]

I can completely understand. You just love the person for being the person, not the gender. Obviously, gender does play a role in some aspects, as there are obvious differences, but it's not about the parts...it's about the hearts! XD I used to identify as bisexual, but now I identify as a lesbian...however, I believe that sexuality is a spectrum and that anyone has the potential to fall in love with anyone else, some have slimmer chances than others, obviously, but I think that it is human nature to love and be loved.

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I've also heard of terms like bi/homo/hetero-romantic asexual etc. meaning that someone can fall in love with another person, but may not experience sexual attraction. Another example would be bi-romantic homosexual (which I think I could possibly be, though I identify as a lesbian), where you can fall in love with both genders, but only are sexually attracted to your own.

I think you're talking about sex here and not gender lol. Gender wise, the only thing that separates one identity from another is how they identify.

 

[Box9Missingo]

I can completely understand. You just love the person for being the person, not the gender. Obviously, gender does play a role in some aspects, as there are obvious differences, but it's not about the parts...it's about the hearts! XD I used to identify as bisexual, but now I identify as a lesbian...however, I believe that sexuality is a spectrum and that anyone has the potential to fall in love with anyone else, some have slimmer chances than others, obviously, but I think that it is human nature to love and be loved.

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I've also heard of terms like bi/homo/hetero-romantic asexual etc. meaning that someone can fall in love with another person, but may not experience sexual attraction. Another example would be bi-romantic homosexual (which I think I could possibly be, though I identify as a lesbian), where you can fall in love with both genders, but only are sexually attracted to your own.

Very good point, Gamelaxer. I tend to identify as asexual/heterosexual, myself. I don't mind people from the opposite sex, but I don't really feel all that attracted to them. But, it doesn't mean I wouldn't love someone if I did fall in love with them though. What counts, like you said, is to love and be loved. That's what matters. That you care for some one and they care for you back.

 

[GameLaxer]

I think you're talking about sex here and not gender lol. Gender wise, the only thing that separates one identity from another is how they identify.

Ah, yes, I was. Sorry for the confusion! xD

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Also...question: I'm under 21, and I just broke up with my first girlfriend of a year. I'm still really upset about it, but just for future reference, I guess, where could I meet other girls to date? XD I don't really know any...

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A lot of my friends jokingly call me gay, all in the name of fun. I mean, I'm not really sure yet, but I wouldn't like to be labeled in a way that isn't true. I just wish they were more supportive of my personality and stuff.

I'm sorry I mean, a personality type or behavior, etc. does not define sexual, gender, etc. identity, and yes, there are some stereotypes that exist, but a lot of people are completely blinded by them, unfortunately.

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Very good point, Gamelaxer. I tend to identify as asexual/heterosexual, myself. I don't mind people from the opposite sex, but I don't really feel all that attracted to them. But, it doesn't mean I wouldn't love someone if I did fall in love with them though. What counts, like you said, is to love and be loved. That's what matters. That you care for some one and they care for you back.

Exactly I mean...I personally think that finding love, both platonic and romantic, can be part of the purpose of life...people always question our purposes as beings on this planet...I think that love is definitely a part of that. Some people would rather not be with someone, though, so I can't say that it's a universal desire, you know?

 

[katsuragi]

i currently identify as panromantic homosexual because i'm percieved as a female, although i identify as agender. i guess that's understandable, i dress and look femme plus i'm dfab, so i don't hate being referred to as a girl, because i understand that some people don't realise there are more than two genders, even though they should. anyway, i think panromantic homosexual is right for me?? i'm romantically attracted to anyone regardless of gender (panromantic) but sexually i'm only attracted to people who identify as female, and seeing as i'm a femme agender, that would make me homosexual???? idk i realise i don't need a label or whatever but for my own comfort and wellbeing i really need something so that i know who i am. i don't even know what i'm trying to get across in this but yeah

 

[Box9Missingo]

Ah, yes, I was. Sorry for the confusion! xD

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Also...question: I'm under 21, and I just broke up with my first girlfriend of a year. I'm still really upset about it, but just for future reference, I guess, where could I meet other girls to date? XD I don't really know any...

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I'm sorry I mean, a personality type or behavior, etc. does not define sexual, gender, etc. identity, and yes, there are some stereotypes that exist, but a lot of people are completely blinded by them, unfortunately.

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Exactly I mean...I personally think that finding love, both platonic and romantic, can be part of the purpose of life...people always question our purposes as beings on this planet...I think that love is definitely a part of that. Some people would rather not be with someone, though, so I can't say that it's a universal desire, you know?

Definitely. Having someone to spend your life with, regardless, is what counts (at least to a point). Yep. I'm not quite that way myself, but I just don't have a real interest romantically (meaning kids and the like).