Lost It's Charm

[lolli8223]

I’m sick of being stuck in this first upgrade of the Nook store, I don’t care about stupid holidays anymore - give me NPCs I care about like Brewster. They really shorted Kicks by giving the Able Sisters 90% of the shoes and socks. I don’t see him getting his own store due to this.

What is the point of Labelle? Is this going to expand into Gracie at some point? Her collection is underwhelming at best But I do like her coat, dress and hat.

Why are the crankies only complaining about how old they are? Why aren’t they cranky anymore?

Villagers need to interact with us more, I went back to New Leaf after a year and was asked for two separate favors by Fuchsia and one by Julian in the span of a couple of hours. They feel more like decorations themselves then actual characters. I miss being in my house and having a villager pop by for a visit just because.

It’s like they didn’t want to offend anyone so they went as vanilla as possible with the personalities.

I appreciate the ability to decorate outside your home, that the villagers don’t up and leave on you and flowers don’t die but that’s not the soul of the game, the characters are.

 

[bcmii]

Play an older game then
Bullying isn't cool these days and since saying someone's useless trash can cause major issues to someone with mental problems, expect to never get abuse on here again

Raymond is a fictional character and cannot read what was posted about him on here...How is pointing out that the characters are flat and lacking in personality "bullying"?

 

[Airysuit]

Also, the iglo instead of tent on the campsite during winter??? That was so cozy!

 

[J087]

Perhaps it's not the game that has changed. Perhaps it's us who have changed.

We are spoiled. We are old(er). And we cling on to everything old that we hold dear.
Using the internets to constantly demand things return as they were.

 

[Snek]

Perhaps it's not the game that has changed. Perhaps it's us who have changed.

We are spoiled. We are old(er). And we cling on to everything old that we hold dear.
Using the internets to constantly demand things return as they were.

Ummm no. I'm tired of people defending this game. NL has had more varied content than NH. I'm not spoiled for wanting a more in-depth game. I'm already playing other games like Monster Hunter Rise and that game has so much more playability than this one. The devs for NH need to improve QoL and upgrade the game's content or else its just going to get stale.

 

[bcmii]

I’m sick of being stuck in this first upgrade of the Nook store, I don’t care about stupid holidays anymore - give me NPCs I care about like Brewster. They really shorted Kicks by giving the Able Sisters 90% of the shoes and socks. I don’t see him getting his own store due to this.

What is the point of Labelle? Is this going to expand into Gracie at some point? Her collection is underwhelming at best But I do like her coat, dress and hat.

Why are the crankies only complaining about how old they are? Why aren’t they cranky anymore?

Villagers need to interact with us more, I went back to New Leaf after a year and was asked for two separate favors by Fuchsia and one by Julian in the span of a couple of hours. They feel more like decorations themselves then actual characters. I miss being in my house and having a villager pop by for a visit just because.

It’s like they didn’t want to offend anyone so they went as vanilla as possible with the personalities.

I appreciate the ability to decorate outside your home, that the villagers don’t up and leave on you and flowers don’t die but that’s not the soul of the game, the characters are.

YES! All I can ask for is more upgrades to the Nooklings store (just like in all the other games) and an actually decent furniture selection. It just baffles me that they were able to have all the furniture sets (most of which have been staples throughout the series) in Pocket Camp, but had to cut 95% of them from New Horizons...

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Ummm no. I'm tired of people defending this game. NL has had more varied content than NH. I'm not spoiled for wanting a more in-depth game. I'm already playing other games like Monster Hunter Rise and that game has so much more playability than this one. The devs for NH need to improve QoL and upgrade the game's content or else its just going to get stale.

Exactly. Is it too much to ask for a game that has more content than its predecessor? That just seems to be common sense and standard in the game industry. It is no sense to release a sequel that, in many aspects, has been watered down from the original.

The animal crossing series used to be a social simulator. Interactions with the villagers/NPCs was an essential component of the game. The villagers actually had personality and character back in the day. They weren't lifeless, robotic, and repetitive like they are now. There was always something to do in your day-to-day life. Whether it be browsing the Nooklings store for the furniture set you were collecting (they cut most of them in this one), working on getting your stores upgraded to the biggest and best version, seeing what interesting and unique things your villagers had to say, or working in Brewster's Café, the game always felt like it had life to it. In this one, they neglected to give all that stuff the proper attention it deserved in favor of turning the game into what is essentially a lifeless minecraft knock-off.

 

[Lukedub]

I still play almost everyday and I'm always doing different things to my island, weather that's changing up an area or just completely flattening and trying a new theme.

I'm glad you have fun with this game, but this point just proves that it has lost it's charm. flattening the entire island isn't something you shouldn't be able to do in a life sim like animal crossing. It's a life sim, not a world builder. The reason animal crossing was so beloved was because it had limits and boundaries, just like real life. Memorizing the routes of where are the shops and Bridges go is a lot of fun. getting used to the town you were given, the town that's yours, has been a major part of the Animal crossing series up until this point. New Horizons basically takes that all away. they've made an animal crossing that is too customizable. Being a god and being able to change whatever you want isn't what animal crossing is supposed to be. In the original game it presented you as an equal, a villager. Now you can basically make you're island look entirely different.

 

[peachycrossing9]

I'm glad you have fun with this game, but this point just proves that it has lost it's charm. flattening the entire island isn't something you shouldn't be able to do in a life sim like animal crossing. It's a life sim, not a world builder. The reason animal crossing was so beloved was because it had limits and boundaries, just like real life. Memorizing the routes of where are the shops and Bridges go is a lot of fun. getting used to the town you were given, the town that's yours, has been a major part of the Animal crossing series up until this point. New Horizons basically takes that all away. they've made an animal crossing that is too customizable. Being a god and being able to change whatever you want isn't what animal crossing is supposed to be. In the original game it presented you as an equal, a villager. Now you can basically make you're island look entirely different.

OK, well I still enjoy doing it weather it's something you're 'supposed' to be able to in Animal Crossing or not.

Problem with most of this community is they nobody is ever happy with anything. Nintendo gave us all these awesome new features, and people are still turning their noses up at everything and being so nitpicky. New Horizons wasn't supposed to be like all the other games was it? Why would you make a new game if it was going to be exactly the same as the previous ones.

If there are things people aren't liking about the game or you're getting burnt out, don't play it.

 

[Parkai]

This thread is a year old:

I don't know if it is just me, but I feel like New Horizons doesn't have the same charm as other games. You can practically get any villager you want with amibo (i know you could in new leaf but not at the beginning of the game coming out.) and with crafting i get they wanted to try something new but golden tools should never break- i mean you work hard for them


@ForgottenT 's Words
Only 1 Nooks Cranny upgrade, no brewster cafe, no resetti "hideout", no police station, no kicks shop, no Leif shop, no museum upgrades, no Katrina shop, no Retail, no club lol, no diving, no paintings, no exotic fruits, no perfect fruit, no gyroids, no bushes, no club tortimer, no minigames, no Kapn shop, no Gracie shop, no town square, no room size upgrades
(Nintendo what am I gonna do with these overpriced closet size rooms)
No Katie, no post office, letters aren't physical anymore, more convinient but I dislike the change.
8 bridges, and incline limit wtf?!
Etc etc.

A lot of the problems still haven't been remedied. Leif was added, diving was added, and I think storage was expanded? But beyond that, a lot of Animal Crossing staples have been removed.
What do you think about this? Is the DLC/patch system AC:NH has been using better for the game's longterm health? Or does the lack of these core features (and the way the team will never confirm what is or isn't coming back) make a worse game overall?

 

[bcmii]

OK, well I still enjoy doing it weather it's something you're 'supposed' to be able to in Animal Crossing or not.

Problem with most of this community is they nobody is ever happy with anything. Nintendo gave us all these awesome new features, and people are still turning their noses up at everything and being so nitpicky. New Horizons wasn't supposed to be like all the other games was it? Why would you make a new game if it was going to be exactly the same as the previous ones.

If there are things people aren't liking about the game or you're getting burnt out, don't play it.

Umm...is it too much to expect the successor to build upon its predecessors? Is it too much to expect the game to already have the basic features from past games in the beginning? So far, the updates have just given us the basic content that we've already played in past games (which should've been there in the first place IMO), with there being very little actually "new features."

For example, diving and bushes are basic content from New Leaf, but people are trying to sell it as if it was something "new."

 

[peachycrossing9]

Umm...is it too much to expect the successor to build upon its predecessors? Is it too much to expect the game to already have the basic features from past games in the beginning? So far, the updates have just given us the basic content that we've already played in past games (which should've been there in the first place IMO), with there being very little actually "new features."

For example, diving and bushes are basic content from New Leaf, but people are trying to sell it as if it was something "new."

Not the stuff like diving and the events that were already in past games. I meant the terraforming/waterscaping and the fact that we can move houses and buildings. Which ok, I guess that's not a lot of new features so I take that statement back.

Basic features like what? Brewster? He was hardly that exciting.

 

[bcmii]

Not the stuff like diving and the events that were already in past games. I meant the terraforming/waterscaping and the fact that we can move houses and buildings. Which ok, I guess that's not a lot of new features so I take that statement back.

Basic features like what? Brewster? He was hardly that exciting.

Basic features like the furniture sets. They cut 95% of them in this one for some reason. If they can be in Pocket Camp (and every other game before this), then I don't see why they couldn't come to this one. Also, things like giving the villagers actual personalities and charm like in all the other games, instead of being, lifeless, bland, and robotic. It's also basic features like being able to upgrade your store more than one level, like in literally every other game.

 

[Dunquixote]

I really don’t agree with what you said about most of this community. The most vocal people don’t represent most of this community. Also, wrong with people not liking everything that a game brings. I understand it gets annoying to hear people constantly complain, but the complainers aren’t always the same person. Since everyone has different tastes, there is always going to be at least one person who won’t like something. the next update, they may like and someone else may not.

Personally, I love this game. I am disappointed with it too but I make do with what the game has to offer. I still will say I wish this was a little better or we had this, but that does not mean I am not grateful for the big improvements we had. I am very grateful. However, since this is a new game, I expected some quality to be better like the designs of the interior of the villager homes. Look at Gaston, Lucky and hornsby’s homes. It looks like they gave hardly any thought or love into their homes. Also since they introduced so many new items with HHD and WA, I would have thought that they’d bring as much variety in those games to a brand new game and more. Of course, it wa my fault for having expectations. Is it wrong to have expectations? no. we’re human and we can help expecting something after enjoying a similar game or something. I do think there is a point where people can be asking for too much, but I feel like for the most part this community has been constructive and respectful with their opinions.

I do feel this game is overall a big improvement over new leaf, but there are some categories that some (not everyone) thinks it falls short on.

I just wanted to pop in and say not everyone in this community agrees with the bigger rant posts.
I am not here to argue.

 

[peachycrossing9]

Basic features like the furniture sets. They cut 95% of them in this one for some reason. If they can be in Pocket Camp (and every other game before this), then I don't see why they couldn't come to this one. Also, things like giving the villagers actual personalities and charm like in all the other games, instead of being, lifeless, bland, and robotic. It's also basic features like being able to upgrade your store more than one level, like in literally every other game.

I do agree on the furniture, I really miss some of the sets we used to have in New Leaf. Also the villagers, they do have very boring dialogue.

But the shop upgrades I can honestly live without. It wasn't something I was personally super obsessed with in past games. The only thing I would request is maybe for Leif to have his own little shop somehow.

 

[Moritz]

Basic features like the furniture sets. They cut 95% of them in this one for some reason. If they can be in Pocket Camp (and every other game before this), then I don't see why they couldn't come to this one. Also, things like giving the villagers actual personalities and charm like in all the other games, instead of being, lifeless, bland, and robotic. It's also basic features like being able to upgrade your store more than one level, like in literally every other game.

If the "lack" of furniture is what ruins the game for you then I don't know what to say.
The villagers have more personality than new leaf. Hey look that's an upgrade like you wanted!

These issues are small and frankly won't change a thing about if you like the game.

 

[peachycrossing9]

I really don’t agree with what you said about most of this community. The most vocal people don’t represent most of this community. Also, wrong with people not liking everything that a game brings. I understand it gets annoying to hear people constantly complain, but the complainers aren’t always the same person. Since everyone has different tastes, there is always going to be at least one person who won’t like something. the next update, they may like and someone else may not.

Personally, I love this game. I am disappointed with it too but I make do with what the game has to offer. I still will say I wish this was a little better or we had this, but that does not mean I am not grateful for the big improvements we had. I am very grateful. However, since this is a new game, I expected some quality to be better like the designs of the interior of the villager homes. Look at Gaston, Lucky and hornsby’s homes. It looks like they gave hardly any thought or love into their homes. Also since they introduced so many new items with HHD and WA, I would have thought that they’d bring as much variety in those games to a brand new game and more. Of course, it wa my fault for having expectations. Is it wrong to have expectations? no. we’re human and we can help expecting something after enjoying a similar game or something. I do think there is a point where people can be asking for too much, but I feel like for the most part this community has been constructive and respectful with their opinions.

I do feel this game is overall a big improvement over new leaf, but there are some categories that some (not everyone) thinks it falls short on.

I just wanted to pop in and say not everyone in this community agrees with the bigger rant posts.
I am not here to argue.

No you're right, it's not most of the community. I am indeed just getting sick of all the complaints every five minutes, that honestly won't change anything unless you wanna bring them up to Nintendo yourself.

Everyone is of course entitled to an opinion on what is good or bad about this game. I didn't mean for it to come across that way. You can have expectations of course. I just don't bother having any because they are usually not met anyway, so what's the point. I don't want to get disappointed, so I just set my expectations really low anyways.

I don't want to argue either, so I'm gonna be quiet now because clearly no one liked what I had to say.

 

[Moritz]

Raymond is a fictional character and cannot read what was posted about him on here...How is pointing out that the characters are flat and lacking in personality "bullying"?

Also since this thread is back I will address this now. Was hoping the thread would stay dead.

I was NOT saying it was bullying to say things about raymond.
I was saying that animal crossing is a game people use for escapism. Hardly the place for villagers to be cruel to the player. I dont want the villagers to be bullying.

 

[bcmii]

If the "lack" of furniture is what ruins the game for you then I don't know what to say.
The villagers have more personality than new leaf. Hey look that's an upgrade like you wanted!

These issues are small and frankly won't change a thing about if you like the game.

I beg to differ. Collecting the furniture sets was one of my favorite things in the past installments. Reminder: just because you didn't care about certain features, doesn't mean you get to dictate whether or not we are allowed to care about them. Every player is different and it's not your place to tell us what we can or cannot care about!

 

[Moritz]

I beg to differ. Collecting the furniture sets was one of my favorite things in the past installments. Reminder: just because you didn't care about certain features, doesn't mean you get to dictate whether or not we are allowed to care about them or not. Every player is different and it's not your place to tell us what we can or cannot care about!

I can still be baffled by how people make claims that will add no more than 10 seconds of content per day will save the game for them.

 

[KayDee]

I'm glad you have fun with this game, but this point just proves that it has lost it's charm. flattening the entire island isn't something you shouldn't be able to do in a life sim like animal crossing. It's a life sim, not a world builder. The reason animal crossing was so beloved was because it had limits and boundaries, just like real life. Memorizing the routes of where are the shops and Bridges go is a lot of fun. getting used to the town you were given, the town that's yours, has been a major part of the Animal crossing series up until this point. New Horizons basically takes that all away. they've made an animal crossing that is too customizable. Being a god and being able to change whatever you want isn't what animal crossing is supposed to be. In the original game it presented you as an equal, a villager. Now you can basically make you're island look entirely different.

Flattening your island is an option that the game gives you. If like you said, you value memorizing the routes of your town or keeping the appearance the way it is, then don’t flatten your town. You could even leave the island the way you arrived if you value the original game’s aesthetic. That’s the great thing about being given options. Still, I don’t see how being able to rebuild your town stops it from being a life sim. I look at it more as starting your life over. In real life, you get tired of living in your current town or your job, you start over someplace else. But, since this is a video game, I guess you can just flatten it.

Other than the original game, you have always been given the option to make your island look different from how it originally was. You decide where to plant trees, flowers, change the town flag and tune, place custom paths, even influence whether a villager stays or goes. So you were never just an equal. New Horizons just expanded on those ideas, which a player can choose to use or not.