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Mafia Love Letter TBT Redux Micromafia (6 Player Mafia)

Hi guys, busy than ever. I hate typing this on mobile.

1. Dad's behavior seems different from previous games as mafia, but it doesn't feel like he's town at the moment. I feel like he has changed his mafia game play from previous games so people won't compare him to it and spot similarities. I just find it suspicious that dad started susing people (which was the first message) with claims that Bianca hand picks these things which I don't think anyone has done.

My point is that I think dad is changing his gameplay to something completely different from what he has done in the last 2 games to prevent similarities from comparison. I think Dad knows how obscure it is to make accusation in the earliest moment of the game and could use that to his advantage when people sus him, he could say "I would never do such a thing as scum, why now" or something like that. I don't see why Bianca would hand pick everything, especially if she already used a random generator for giving out cards.

2. Hey punchy!!!!


Anyways, I would type more once I'm on a computer but for rn, college stuff.
 
Hi guys, busy than ever. I hate typing this on mobile.

1. Dad's behavior seems different from previous games as mafia, but it doesn't feel like he's town at the moment. I feel like he has changed his mafia game play from previous games so people won't compare him to it and spot similarities. I just find it suspicious that dad started susing people (which was the first message) with claims that Bianca hand picks these things which I don't think anyone has done.

My point is that I think dad is changing his gameplay to something completely different from what he has done in the last 2 games to prevent similarities from comparison. I think Dad knows how obscure it is to make accusation in the earliest moment of the game and could use that to his advantage when people sus him, he could say "I would never do such a thing as scum, why now" or something like that. I don't see why Bianca would hand pick everything, especially if she already used a random generator for giving out cards.

2. Hey punchy!!!!


Anyways, I would type more once I'm on a computer but for rn, college stuff.

let the record state that I tr Antonio for making original opinions, I have a feeling that he would bandwagon as scum.
 
Hi guys, busy than ever. I hate typing this on mobile.

1. Dad's behavior seems different from previous games as mafia, but it doesn't feel like he's town at the moment. I feel like he has changed his mafia game play from previous games so people won't compare him to it and spot similarities. I just find it suspicious that dad started susing people (which was the first message) with claims that Bianca hand picks these things which I don't think anyone has done.

My point is that I think dad is changing his gameplay to something completely different from what he has done in the last 2 games to prevent similarities from comparison. I think Dad knows how obscure it is to make accusation in the earliest moment of the game and could use that to his advantage when people sus him, he could say "I would never do such a thing as scum, why now" or something like that. I don't see why Bianca would hand pick everything, especially if she already used a random generator for giving out cards.

2. Hey punchy!!!!


Anyways, I would type more once I'm on a computer but for rn, college stuff.

so u think dad is scum but he completely changed his scum playstyle but hes still scum, and ur only evidence is that he made an early accusation? like i agree that his reasons for sussing dolby r super dodgy, but it feels more like a town move than a scum move to me. this just feels like a noncommital first post thing to make it look like antonio has content.
 
so u think dad is scum but he completely changed his scum playstyle but hes still scum, and ur only evidence is that he made an early accusation? like i agree that his reasons for sussing dolby r super dodgy, but it feels more like a town move than a scum move to me. this just feels like a noncommital first post thing to make it look like antonio has content.

Trust me, this is how town Antonio acts. He was scum in Korean War to, and then he barely even tried to justify his susses

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Also, I do agree it's bad logic. Currently it's Vanessa I'm looking at
 
let the record state that I tr Antonio for making original opinions, I have a feeling that he would bandwagon as scum.

bandwagon on the one player who brought up dolby as scummy? two if u count vanessa i guess, idk if i count that noncommital post by her as a sus tho. i havent seen antonio play in a while so idk how much credit to give him but im gonna assume he has the confidence as scum to make his own kinda opinion, esp if its a dolby antonio scumteam or smth like that.

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o lol as soon as i say antonio/dolby team a post where dolby defends antonio pops up wow
 
Dude, it's not 4v2 it's 5v1

i rly wanna believe that but i cant deny the possibility of a 4v2, a 5v1 just sounds super unfair for maf to be esp if the game isnt balanced by the host in terms of allignments

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to me*
 
i rly wanna believe that but i cant deny the possibility of a 4v2, a 5v1 just sounds super unfair for maf to be esp if the game isnt balanced by the host in terms of allignments

4v2 is really bad balance because town has no MLs (and cards are given out independent of alignment it seems, so that can't be balanced out), they have to get everything perfect in that scenario. 5v1 requires two MLs, which is tough but feasible
 
4v2 is really bad balance because town has no MLs (and cards are given out independent of alignment it seems, so that can't be balanced out), they have to get everything perfect in that scenario. 5v1 requires two MLs, which is tough but feasible

i knoooow but still i rly dont wanna rule it out. i wont base my sus totally on teaming for sure but i still wanna keep it as a factor.

also who used the card and what for, its weird that noone claimed it yet
 
bandwagon on the one player who brought up dolby as scummy? two if u count vanessa i guess, idk if i count that noncommital post by her as a sus tho. i havent seen antonio play in a while so idk how much credit to give him but im gonna assume he has the confidence as scum to make his own kinda opinion, esp if its a dolby antonio scumteam or smth like that.

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o lol as soon as i say antonio/dolby team a post where dolby defends antonio pops up wow

There should be only 1 mafia. 1 per 5 users. Having 2 mafia will will tip the balance in favor of mafia.

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ooo, Dolby beat me. I need my glasses
 
Ftr, all Green's are townleans and are to different degrees, I just hate using codes

Antonio is probably town. I don't really feel a need to expand much upon this, anybody who even gives a cursary glance at Korean War and his post filter there will notice how much it differs from now, and his case against Dad is a classic case of town him.

Punchy def not clear town because I do feel like his playstyle in general has changed since the one time that he was scum (russian roulette), but he is showing far more self-restraint now than there. In Russian Roulette he was doing everything in his power pull sus onto others and very reactionary to any mention of him, whereas here there's a few subtle differences. Punchy never made any effort to make townreads in Russian Roulette, and would use any oppertunity he got to try to justify a shot on the largest number of people. In comparison to there his reaction seems muted, which does make me townlean him

Rune I was considering putting Rune at null before he came back into the thread. His post wasn't exactly a big revelation, but it had the same tone which kinda affirmed my previous viewpoint. Rune has a more noticablely more developed town game than scum game in my opinion, and unless he got a lot more scum experience in the time he's been gone. Rune's play as scum seems to be just making wide-emcompassing statements and try to pass it off as town play. The one exception to it was in APM where he said that me and Punchy were maf teammed and pretty much stook to pressuring us the whole game, but honestly I might have come to the same conclusion as town. Still though, his focus on game mechanics reminds me of his town play, and him coming after Antonio/me link (which is wrong lol) both feel like actions unique to his play as town

Dad I'm def less trusting of him than last game, but I feel that there's a general difference in tone in comparison to the last two games. Heck, Antonio picked up on it . He's acting more forward, more direct, and more confident, and boy is this last character distinctly more sus than him.he's definetely taking more ownership for when I flip town in comparison to Unravel last game.

Vanessa. Yeah, today is 100% going to end up being between me and her. She's made a grand total of 1 post, BWing onto sussing me. Most notably her bandwagon onto me was extremely cautionless, Runeraider and Punchy both expressed concern over the consequences for should I flip town because they felt like there should be a higher standard of proof. Vanessa displayed none of that caution and just straight bandwagoned onto Dad's sus on me. I'm gonna refrain from using meta here, given the lack of her posting thus far, but let's look at things
1. This sus is partly POE, every person so far except Vanessa has given me a reason to townlean them
2. Vanessa has been weirdly inactive and lurky, I've seen her multiple times viewing the thread without commenting
3. Her one post is honestly just bad, let's analyze it

1. Is Punchy part of the game?
No but Lunchy is
2. Timezone/Pronound/Etc?
ET/Female

I don't have a good answer for 3
Answers to RQS, kinda irrevelevant to the read but I don't like her non-answer to 3. She isn't taking Dad's advice here, but I also feel that she doesn't want to say anything that incriminates her in some way. Def my least conclusive point here.
I would guess because you had no idea how cards worked in your first post
Filler, seeking to be seen as contributing. The point is nonsense and she herself doesn't go to the liberty of stating her read on Punchy, moreover, scum wouldn't know about the card system either
Yeah I agree with Dad's point about under-reacting, I feel like town Dolby would be like "OMK are you seriously scumreading me over a typo", based on how I remember him reacting to being scumread for bluesniping before.
First of all, Dad isn't scumreading me over it, he thinks that I slipped that I had the baron, which is a completely different thing from scumreading me over it. Second, this is just a weak attempt to get onto the wagon and doesn't add any new information or viewpoints to this. Third of all, where are you people getting that I fish for blues, I practically never do it, and everytime that I guessed sussed for bluesniping it's because blues actually die.

Moreover, the two concepts that she presents are incongruous and a poor attempt at feigning content, and tbh I'm not exactly sure how to say that it is. First, I there was no typo there, second, Baron and fishing does not neccessary equal bluesniping, as Dad himself said. Moreover, "are you scumreading me over a typo" is also never an appropriate response to being accused of bluesniping

Vanessa's contributions thus far have been the least extensive, the least original, and have had the least merit. While I am a bit concerned that I haven't given her enough time, the fact is I have solid reasoning to townlean at least every other player in the game As such

##Vote: Vanessa

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after rather than than for the Dad read
 
so u think dad is scum but he completely changed his scum playstyle but hes still scum, and ur only evidence is that he made an early accusation? like i agree that his reasons for sussing dolby r super dodgy, but it feels more like a town move than a scum move to me. this just feels like a noncommital first post thing to make it look like antonio has content.

Dad is a skilled mafia player so why would he start throwing sus at Dolby and Vanessa as his first action in the game rather than wait and see what happens. From my perspective, both of them are the most skilled out of the rest of us (me, punchy, and rune) and could be a threat to his game. He tried going after Vanessa and Bianca (who are skilled) in the Korean game dolby ran. He said, "I'm up for either roleblocking Vanessa and killing bianca or killing Vanessa and roleblocking Bianca" during night 1.

I think of him doing this was different from previous mainly because I believe if he acted differently from how he played mafia in the last 2 games, no one will expect him again. I know dad is really smart so I don't know why he would do something like that in his post as a Town. I need a comparison from him in old mafia games where he was town before I will go into more detail. @dad can you provide a game where you were Town?

Finally, I don't he's scum for doing this but I think it's scummy that he did do it.
mind grammar mistakes please
 
Bianca, would the handmaid card be able to be held by the mafia? All it does is blocks Mafia NK, correct? It would be basically rendered useless if the mafia, in theory got that.

@Dad what did you see from Bianca's post earlier?
 
Bianca, would the handmaid card be able to be held by the mafia? All it does is blocks Mafia NK, correct? It would be basically rendered useless if the mafia, in theory got that.

@Dad what did you see from Bianca's post earlier?

the card assignment is totally random. anyone can handle any card. it is based on the order that you signed up and the order of Ryumia's card sequence . For. e.g., Dad is the first one in, so he gets the first card, and so on so forth

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oh no
so I'm leaving for a canoe trip tomorrow at 7am. I thought that the trip started on Saturday. I really want to try to stay in the game, so I'm going to have to be afk for long periods of time. I might be able to make short posts but won't be active very much. I'm so sorry about this.
 
oh no
so I'm leaving for a canoe trip tomorrow at 7am. I thought that the trip started on Saturday. I really want to try to stay in the game, so I'm going to have to be afk for long periods of time. I might be able to make short posts but won't be active very much. I'm so sorry about this.

Just make sure you post at least once during day so you do not get modkilled and you have to vote for day 1
 
Punchy def not clear town because I do feel like his playstyle in general has changed since the one time that he was scum (russian roulette), but he is showing far more self-restraint now than there. In Russian Roulette he was doing everything in his power pull sus onto others and very reactionary to any mention of him, whereas here there's a few subtle differences. Punchy never made any effort to make townreads in Russian Roulette, and would use any oppertunity he got to try to justify a shot on the largest number of people. In comparison to there his reaction seems muted, which does make me townlean him

also dolby lowkey setting up to sus me in the future with that "I feel like his playstyle has changed so that's why I tr him + meta" case and doesn't include why Dad tr'ed me in the first place
 
Punchy def not clear town because I do feel like his playstyle in general has changed since the one time that he was scum (russian roulette), but he is showing far more self-restraint now than there. In Russian Roulette he was doing everything in his power pull sus onto others and very reactionary to any mention of him, whereas here there's a few subtle differences. Punchy never made any effort to make townreads in Russian Roulette, and would use any oppertunity he got to try to justify a shot on the largest number of people. In comparison to there his reaction seems muted, which does make me townlean him

also dolby lowkey setting up to sus me in the future with that "I feel like his playstyle has changed so that's why I tr him + meta" case and doesn't include why Dad tr'ed me in the first place

Tbh, I think that after you nearly brought us both down in APM you've made more of an effort to be less bombastic. Though this is def an example of a post you wouldn't make as scum

What's really killing me though is that Vanessa has gotten practically no mentions from anyone besides me, literally the only thing made was a passing comment by Rune, and frankly, I kinda think that people have forgotten about her being in the game. But again, she literally comes into the thread to cast doubt on the already most sus person in the thread without adding anything new to the case. I even made an appeal for her to post in my case against her, she's been on, and didn't respond, not just to me but to the thread in general. I am more than confident now that she is the scum here

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Also Punchy, if I was scum I would be making more of an effort to pocket you right now given how successful I was in Hunger Games
 
God, I hate it when people say "if I were mafia". It just feels very scummy even if I don't believe they would do that as scum.

Anyways, I put a priest card on Vanessa because I'm curious on what she's packin and I don't see much of her. I haven't gotten my results yet but I don't know if it's now or during night.

I'll probably be posting reads tommorow.
 
im not pulling up vanessa yet bc shes made one post lol, ye it was kinda scummy but theres plenty of chances for her to redeem herself. its better to pull up ppl with more content then make a long post about a few bandwagony comments imo.

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also the fact that only antonio owned up to using a card prob means that the other one was used by maf, which basically clears him unless it actually is a 4v2 (in which case hes scum in my eyes so idk)

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Dad is a skilled mafia player so why would he start throwing sus at Dolby and Vanessa as his first action in the game rather than wait and see what happens. From my perspective, both of them are the most skilled out of the rest of us (me, punchy, and rune) and could be a threat to his game. He tried going after Vanessa and Bianca (who are skilled) in the Korean game dolby ran. He said, "I'm up for either roleblocking Vanessa and killing bianca or killing Vanessa and roleblocking Bianca" during night 1.

I think of him doing this was different from previous mainly because I believe if he acted differently from how he played mafia in the last 2 games, no one will expect him again. I know dad is really smart so I don't know why he would do something like that in his post as a Town. I need a comparison from him in old mafia games where he was town before I will go into more detail. @dad can you provide a game where you were Town?

Finally, I don't he's scum for doing this but I think it's scummy that he did do it.
mind grammar mistakes please

wait so ur doubling down on how him sussing ppl right at the start of the game is him being scummy, despite it being completely different from what he did as scum last game, but then u say u dont think hes scum anyway? first of all, based solely on what ur saying it sounds like dad is being super scummy, so y do u townread him despite ur argument for him being scummy? and two, why even make the post in the first place if u dont think this makes him scummy? it just comes off as making content for the sake of content.

also before i get blasted for sussing antonio like this just after saying i think hes confirmed by the cards, the card couldve still either been used by vanessa or a town who thought it was a good idea to keep it secret for we reason, so im p sure antonios allignment is still up for discussion.
 
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