Mafia Make Mafia Grate Again! Game Over! Town wins!

also, @ayayayayayyaaaaa, that's an excellent idea. if you're a doctor i can't wait to hear your plans for the night. gg.

Oh, I'm not the doctor, I was talking about Kat and Aron who claimed as doc. I think it's unlikely we have two of the same PRs, as usually when town assumes so, one of them turned out to be scum.

For example, the one I was referring to was when I was read as doc by BluRose in Reindeer Mafia and continued to use that role as my claim since the actual doc was inactive. Mother of Llamas replaced the doc and said that I'm probably scum bc she's the real doc. I managed to fool town and GF that we're both doctors even until the end. I was actually SK on that game.

Another example is when Trundle claimed as vig in Game of Thrones mafia. The actual vig was KarlaKGB but he didn't CC or go after Trundle for it, and implied on his will that Trundle can be the second vig. Town believed Trundle until m3ow pointed out the flaw in his claim.

Also it's 10 PM my time so it's time for me to sleep. I'm still typing my reads and I haven't finished reading yet so I'll continue in the morning.
 
Heyyyyy I'm here

I have over a hundred pages (of probably nothing but shtposting) so it'll be awhile before I post or do much of anything

also to any of you wondering why I wasn't on yesterday: I was out all day at an Earth Day festival and when I came home I had sun burns, was overheated and exhausted and half-tempted to go to the hospital to get rehydrated. bought some cheap goodies tho so it wasn't a complete waste

so if I have an extremely short temper this game and I'm saltier than normal, that's why: I feel like sht rn and allergies are bothering me too
 
I don't think the vig should out themself unless they are being sussed. We know there is a KP of 2, a Serialkiller, and a Vig shot. I don't really see the benefit of knowing who did what. And i think there is plenty going on that we can worry about despite that with this 2 doctor nonsense and looking at who was killed

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Can someone tell me the role description of the serial killer? Like what is their motive and how do they win?
 
Can someone tell me the role description of the serial killer? Like what is their motive and how do they win?
I was Serial Killer in the last game Dolby hosted and I had to eliminate all mafia and equal town or be the last one standing. I also had the choice whether to appear Town on cop reports or to receive a vest. Interested to see what Dolby has done this time with the 3rd party killing role.

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Well I'm gonna sleep ;') Don't let anyone hit majority yet (10 votes), and used up vig pls claim ;) kthxbai
 
Well I feel like if a serial killer is trying to stay aloof I don't think they would've targeted Xine, not to mention I think that is an obvious mafia target
I'm scared of them if they were good enough to take out Daniel night 1, but he was getting enough scum reads I can believe maybe our Vig was able to target him
Cory and Shiida were barely sussed, Cory was being kind of a jerk, so maybe someone more inexperienced was the vig shot if it was a mis fire, so I'm leaning towards him being Vig shot or mafia. Shiida wasn't too sus, but she was being pretty vocal about her reads so maybe she had been picked for framing purposes?
 
Well I feel like if a serial killer is trying to stay aloof I don't think they would've targeted Xine, not to mention I think that is an obvious mafia target
I'm scared of them if they were good enough to take out Daniel night 1, but he was getting enough scum reads I can believe maybe our Vig was able to target him
Cory and Shiida were barely sussed, Cory was being kind of a jerk, so maybe someone more inexperienced was the vig shot if it was a mis fire, so I'm leaning towards him being Vig shot or mafia. Shiida wasn't too sus, but she was being pretty vocal about her reads so maybe she had been picked for framing purposes?
I don't know why Shiida was targeted tbh. Her main suspicions were Crys and Sarasa, so maybe they killed her to make Crys/Sarasa look bad?? Honestly I was getting scumvibes from the both of them too until Sarasa's Doctor *COUGH* Something else claim. I'm thinking Ness could be Serial Killer because he had such high suspicions on Daniel, but IDK. It's really easy to hide as SK in a town crowd, especially if you have a good claim.

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I don't think the vig should out themself unless they are being sussed. We know there is a KP of 2, a Serialkiller, and a Vig shot. I don't really see the benefit of knowing who did what. And i think there is plenty going on that we can worry about despite that with this 2 doctor nonsense and looking at who was killed

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Can someone tell me the role description of the serial killer? Like what is their motive and how do they win?
The person who i think is vig is being sussed and i pretty sure theyre one shot so its okay.
 
okay I did some speed-reading and I want to make sure what I read is right because this game is legit f***ing with my head:

D1:
- honeydew and shondell alts clog the thread (lmfao I wouldn't be surprised if it really was Izzy tbh)
- Aron claimed doc
- everyone brushes off Aron because "OMG he's a n00b we gotta give him a break !!111!!1"
- Aron doesn't help, and claims to be f***ing with our heads (!?!?)
- Aron shows a lil OMGUS and then stops when he realizes he's digging himself in a hole
- Tardis is being weird af and seems to not be helping just like Aron
like Tardis literally has the same attitude and sorta the same reactions and everything as Aron which is kinda weird; they are both n00bies but really that doesn't 100% clear you just because you're new
- Inactives admit to be hiding in their shells because the game seems to be intimidating

(@Those who haven't contributed a lot/are semi-inactive: PLEASE POST AND CONTRIBUTE!!! just try!!! you're hurting us by staying quiet, so come and start speaking!!)

D2:
- scum is killed yasss! we actually have a chance lmao
I honestly though if vets were RNG'd as scum that the n00bs would be doomed and it'd be a total downhill roller coaster but y'all are getting better and we have hope o;
- Aron tries to be helpful but his reads are litteraly 'everyone is semi-sus and semi-town' and he's still basically not helping and is wasting our valuable time and is clogging the thread
- Sarasa claims doc that saved xine
- xine claims saved, so I think Sarasa is a legit doc and xine is most likely town

(If any of that ^ is wrong please tell me!)

now... I know there's sometimes two docs in one game, but when I was a n00b, one of my first games I was given the doc role and even I was smart enough not to out myself as doc. (I actually did RC early but not D1) I'm honestly wondering if whoever else was/is on Aron's scumteam (@those who know the math: about how many scum are left?) maybe fed him the info to early claim Doc and as a n00b no one would believe him but at the same time no one would make him sus and actually lynch him so he can stay alive and coast thru the rest of the game. Like, he's not doing anything beneficial and he's literally coasting, almost everyone even points that he's coasting and is just clogging the thread.
also I found it hilarious how anytime anyone makes a case against Aron that meow steps in and threatens anyone who attacks Aron. Like, chill, we have a legit doc, and Aron probably doesn't even know how to use his supposed Doc role right, not to mention he ain't helping, so why are you defending him so much?

I'd appreciate it if someone extended what I've basically summarized and made a good case against Aron because it'd help us a lot if we figured out what he actually is
and I'm not saying lynch him, I'm saying make a case on him, just thought I'd point that out
 
oddly enough i agree with the whole vig thing.
if you're essentially a VT now, you might as well help town make heads of tails of the events. it'll give us a more solid approach as to where to go from there. i mean, unless vig really did shoot cory and then well, gg why'd u do that. but if vig isn't a 1 shot, don't out yourself, obviously. use your remaining fire power to do some good. if you're honestly a vt now, i really don't see why everyone is so absolutely against them outing the results. i get you want some secrets kept but why do you want them kept from town as well?

also, the 2 doctor thing sounds like bull****.
especially if your role name is ted cruz. like seriously. potential sk or wild card third party.
unless you're lying and that's not really your unofficial role name.

as much as i think aron is bull**** and i don't trust him, i don't want to waste a lynch on him if he really is dumb townie doctor and then mafia wins by letting him stay alive N1 in hopes that we lynch his dumb ass today. give it some time, there's other crafty things going on that we need to focus on.

also, @ayayayayayyaaaaa, that's an excellent idea. if you're a doctor i can't wait to hear your plans for the night. gg.
Idk, it seems like it's just giving mafia a better shot at POE. I don't think there's really much good from being able to differentiate the SK kill from the Vig kill.

I was pretty sure the mafia kills were Xine/Shiida. Cory and Daniel were both pretty heavily suspected, so I could see it being interchanged from there between Vig and SK. What this does tell me, though, is that SK seems to be mafia hunting rather than killing town. I don't think a first time SK would think of this, so fwiw I think the SK is a little more experienced. However, going for mafia when town has the lead makes no sense to me because they'd be giving town an even greater lead. So my guess is that the SK is somewhat experienced, but not extremely so.

Tae, do you think that Aron is lying about Doc, or I am? Because I'm the one who claimed Ted Cruz, and you said that role name was likely bull****, but you say you don't trust Aron.
 
Just quickly checking in to say I'll try be around before the end of day two - whether that's tonight or tomorrow I don't know yet. I've read most of the thread so far but I really don't feel like being online right now. I lost my little girl a couple of hours ago and I just want to curl up under a blanket, put on a video game, and be alone. I know fish don't mean much to most people, but she was just as important to me as my hamster and cats.
 
Call me Daniel in his posts seemed to support Tardis a lot despite them kinda being scummy... his support several times for him seemed forced imo... I'm gonna bump his reads from Day 1, see if anyone else sees anything in it

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Hello you impatient people, it?s everybody?s favorite part of the day, my reads! I didn?t have time to make proper reads until I got home. I could make shallow reads like a lot of people are doing, but that?s not me. When I make reads, they?re gonna be bombasss reads. Well here they are:
Day 1 Reads and Reflections

A letter by Daniel A. Scummington




Thoughts on day 1:
I really dislike the huge number of posts that were generated from this day. From start game to Night 1, we all made 965 posts(Yes I also reread all of these posts last night). This makes the game really hard to follow with since there?s so much to read and it makes the reads a lot longer to make. I would be okay with this if the posts came from all the players posting, but it?s really only a circle of like 10 people who made the majority of them. A lot of the posts are from the troll and Aron claiming reaction, but I hope we all can condense our posts a bit. I wanna see big questions and reads that are pretty good for Day 2 remember kids Quantity=/= Quality.
You know what I think of the troll. I sensed it immediately from when they posted the thing about their husband divorce or whatever and ending their posts in xx. I?ve seen many a trolls in my day, and this is no exception.
The reads that a lot of players posted aren?t satisfying to me either, they?re really bland. A couple of the reads from people are good, but they?re very short and not supported. I really like seeing facts in cases, because it?s the only proper way for players to give a proper defense for their actions. It also shows where you?re coming from in your thinking. While I do appreciate the attempt to post thoughts an opinions, I?d rather more supported and deep reads and cases.

Nice that scum was lynched on the first day, but i saw a lot of bandwagoning. I?m not taking credit for the lynch since i didn?t have time to help, but good job town. This was the saving grace of this day.

So yeah, Condensing and supporting posts would make Day 2 much better I believe.


Top Scum reads:​
Crys- Been pretty observant on Crys this game, and a few things throw me off.


The Honeydew lynch is weird. All they said is that they have a QT with Tardis. Literally right after that you said you were for the 2 accused QTers to be lynched. Did you consider the possibility of trolling? It makes no sense for someone actually trying to play, to admit they have a QT like that. You could say the doc claim by Aron was stupid, but at least it was from pressure and doesn?t confirm he?s scum. Claiming to have a QT with someone for no reason would mean they?re either mafia, masons, or lovers. Even as mafia, if one were to die, it would only confirm that the other isn?t a town QT player and is scum too. There?s literally no reason to have said that other than trolling(or complete stupidity), so why are you so for their lynch when they didn?t even explain themselves yet?
Then Honey says

This is practically confirming that they?re a troll. Any player of any role with a QT would definitely not want their partner dead. But they say do so here. But you say:


But why though? In what way does that make sense to lynch them for that? Don?t worry, you?re not the only one who believed in that QT claim, and I?ll get to them. :lemon:


Was this a reaction test? As you didn?t explain why you thought he was scum. Seems pretty off to me.


The first sentence is weird and literally had no point in posting. Don?t understand why you said that.


Pretty quick to change the vote. Didn?t really explain why Cory was a better player to vote for than Aron either.
Also the reads they posted, aren?t so grand like they made it to be. I was waiting on a bunch of facts and reads, but the reads seemed pretty quickly thrown together in like 10-20 minutes. Doesn?t really help much either in my opinion, but hey at least you got the reads you were waiting more.

Not the biggest scum read, but these posts really weird me out.

SarasaKat- A lot of her posts are questionable to say the least.

Why are you sure that the 2 are scum? Why would it make sense for scum to slip so carelessly? Like i said about Crys, I don't understand your thought process here. Why say Tardis is confirmed scum when he didn't even respond to honey's claim? Did you not consider them possibly being masons/lovers? Pretty weird thing to say.
Basically anything I said about Crys quickly thinking honey was scum applies here to.



Why? Cory could easily try to appear town and say that as scum, yet you just clear him here...

Seems pretty weird to just agree with what Cory says when he's town reading you. This post seems pretty off.


So being secretive and holding back info is town? I thought it was the exact opposite. Seems like you're not bothering to listen to reason why Aron would be lying.
Then you say this:


But 5 minutes later say this:

Seems to me like you realized that others aren't believing Aron's telling the truth, so now you gotta switch your stance or else they'll think you're scummy to me.

You go from firmly believing Aron was town to him being scum very quickly.


You pressed him a lot and agree with the claim making no sense, but you town read him again? What?


It seems like you're just going with whatever town is believing right now. First they think he's scum, so you think he's scum. Then they think he's town, so now you think he's town. Your opinion on Aron is very wishy washy and I don't like it.


Didn't you say Cory was town for saying he wanted a villa core? What have you really contributed that made you more of a contributor than Cory?

Her posts after this also have a weird tone to them, but I can't put my finger on exactly why.

The bolded part is really weird too.

Also, why just Kevinnn for being inactive? Why not Qwerty/Inkling/Llamas for being inactive too?

What? Anyone would literally get online find out about the doc claim and say that. Did you also not consider that statement being fabricated? Why clear him for saying that?

These are the posts that are the weirdest to me in my opinion.

Honestly Sarasa has been very weird this whole game. Flip flopping opinions like that, quickly clearing people for no real reason, and overall isn't her usual self. I'm thinking she's scum. Awaiting your response to his Kat.


Reads on other players:
Cory-
https://youtu.be/sPbtlFVV3X0
Not too sure what I think of cory so far. He had a pretty big ego in putting himself in the strongest scum hunter pedestal, when he really wasn?t doing much. That seemed to me like he was shoving it down our throats that he was trying to help, and he spent more time telling us that actually scum hunting. I didn?t like that. But then I reconsidered my suspicions when he got into a very heated fight with Aron that almost made them quit the game. While you could say that?s a scum trying to make a distraction or pressing a town player into spilling the beans, I see really no purpose in scum doing this. In all the time I?ve played here, all of the heated fights(ex. Tae and Inkling in Tarot, Trojan and Ness in Scummies, Jacob and I in BoI etc), it?s mainly just 2 town fighting. Not only is it stupid to press him as scum because there?s really nothing else to gain from it because he already claimed doc and it would make him pretty suspicious to doing so for no reason. I town read him from this, EDIT: Also now that i read his cautiousness on immediately clearing Xine, it?s not logical but understandable. While I highly doubt Xine would drive a teammate to lynching but I understand the fear of trusting someone too quickly. I usually don?t trust anyone too much, until deeper into the game, so I see where this response would come from a town. Town leaning on him for me.

Xine- Pretty certain they?re town. Or at least anti mafia. I highly doubt a mafian would make a case and lead a lynch for their teammate on Day 1. Really makes no sense for a mafian to do that and just let town go for another lynch.
Aron- I think they?re town. It really makes no sense for mafia to have freaked out and posted like he did. I think any scum team would silence Aron from getting defensive and emotional like he did. Not only that, but general reaction to everyone pressing him for claiming doc and Cory getting in a fight with him seems pretty genuine to me. Like town actually feeling bad or screwing up so badly. I don?t think scum could fake emotions like that or would do that in the first place. The whole thing with the ?or I could just be messing with you? is the only thing that throws me off. I don?t think scum would say that, but a jester would. Toying with town?s minds is pretty Anti town and would probably be considered going against your WinCon. Other than that post, I think they?re actually telling the truth. Not to sure on the Ronald Reagan
Qwerty- Not really sure what to think of them. The only post that is actually important to look at is their reads. And even then, the reads are really short and are more like summaries than actual reads. Pretty quiet so I can?t say much on them.
Toadsworthy- Seems pretty protown to me. I?m a fan of the reads he makes with facts, so I?m a fan of his attempt to help town. Seems like a pretty sincere attempt to put town in the right direction. I read the reads to, and i can see where you're coming from. Keep it up with those posts.
Panda- Stepped up her game this time. Not sure what the reason would be for this change, but it?s helping town a lot more. Your posts have substance and a purpose, and it seems you put a lot of thought and analyzing to make them. She hasn?t been too aggressive and tunneling like she usually is, so I?m thinking it could possibly be scum panda trying to act more helpful. Regardless, she?s not one of my top scum reads and I?m leaning more town to her.
Tardis- Town leaning here. Their questions have a purpose and it seems that he?s genuinely trying to help town. While the whole case on the alt makes no sense(I don?t even think we can lynch someone who was modkilled), at least he?s trying to make a case to help town. When he was scum in tarot, he didn?t try helping town or make cases but instead just tried to look like he was contributing by making small comments and claiming really quickly for reason. It was just a pretty obvious attempt to try to be town in that game, and I don?t see that here. Town reading to the effort he?s putting in. Also

Is this a soft claim?

Kevinnn- Their posts have nothing of real value other than admitting that they are unconfident in their reads and silent. Hasn?t contributed much, but they are a newbie, so that would explain it. Can?t get a read of their posts, null.
Cadbberry- From what she?s posted, it seems like she holding back on stuff. She seems to just agree with people and accept any suspicions on her as she says here


Instead of really defending herself. I understand she?s a noobie, so she probably has no clue what to do, but you really need to get out of your shell if you?re really town. Can?t give a proper read until i see more posts so nulled.
ClamsEatCurry- The typical noobie, asking questions on the game, but not really stating many thoughts besides commenting on others. Nothing in his posts say scum, but nothing says town. I?d love for you to post your reads or more detailed thoughts so i can get a better read on you. Null for now.
M3ow_- Has a few interesting posts I?d like to bring up.


Not a fan of people telling PRs what to do out in the open. If he actually takes your advice, it?s just telling the scum team on how to plan their actions. I think it?s best for the PRs to do what they think is best.


Pretty aggressive thing to say here. It seems like you?re trying to intimidate people to not mess with Aron, but also not mess with you. Would like to note that a Tae and a couple of other people still questioned the doc claim and you didn?t do anything to them, all you said is that we?re not lynching them. All bark but no bite?

I saw the case on Alexi, and since you were pretty keen on an Alexi lynch, I?m pretty sure one is scum while the other is town. So depending on which one of you flips if you died, I?ll see what to think next. Scum leaning.
Mother of Llamas- Honestly not too sure what to think of her. She does the same old ?inactive but randomly pops in? thing she does like every game. The only two important posts are her reads and her reason for voting. The reads are pretty weak and are more summaries of what they?ve done so far instead of actual opinions on their play.


Your activity is pretty off too, why is Inkling?s weird? Also how is their posts being less aggressive scummy? The reason for voting is pretty vague here. Leaning towards scum for her.
Alexi- Scum leaning here. She has an odd tone to her posts at seem really forced and all she really has done is defend herself and agreeing with other people. Also just accepting her suspicions when people state them saying ?Yeah I see why you said this? instead of confidently justifying herself. The post that really throws me off is this:

Pretty odd thing to say. So just because they townread you means you should town read them? That really makes no sense here, any scum also town reads people you know. Possible scum.




Shiida- I like this player. She?s pretty confrontational and doesn?t seem to be hiding anything so far, which I don?t think a new scum would do. All of her comments and posts appear to have some sort of reasoning and substance behind it. I?m interested in what you?ll have to post in the future, town reading.
Heyden- Aggressive and a bit pushy this game which i would say would be scummy, but you did the same in other games too, so it fits in with your town meta. Not reserved or holding anything bad it seems. Will wait patiently or your reads and concrete thoughts on the game so far. Seems to be pretty helpful. Town reading.
Taeseak- Not sure here. His posts don?t really pop out as pro or anti town. They?re kinda just there. Most of his reads and opinions aren?t really anything new and he seems really keen on praising him xine and worships them. While the agreeing with whatever Xine says is a bit weird, it?s not really enough in itself to make me suspicious. Watching out for him, but null.
N e s s- Pretty iffy on this read. The whole attitude towards clearing noobies really quickly is off. Pretty aggressive like usual and nothing extraordinary sticks out to me. His posts are just, okay, not a leading scumhunter but not a lurker. Null for now, can?t get a read from him.

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Jesus Christ that took hours to make, taking a break now because i spent so much time on this

here were his reads
 
Idk, it seems like it's just giving mafia a better shot at POE. I don't think there's really much good from being able to differentiate the SK kill from the Vig kill.

I was pretty sure the mafia kills were Xine/Shiida. Cory and Daniel were both pretty heavily suspected, so I could see it being interchanged from there between Vig and SK. What this does tell me, though, is that SK seems to be mafia hunting rather than killing town. I don't think a first time SK would think of this, so fwiw I think the SK is a little more experienced. However, going for mafia when town has the lead makes no sense to me because they'd be giving town an even greater lead. So my guess is that the SK is somewhat experienced, but not extremely so.

Tae, do you think that Aron is lying about Doc, or I am? Because I'm the one who claimed Ted Cruz, and you said that role name was likely bull****, but you say you don't trust Aron.

i don't trust aron's doctor claim at all.
but i don't want to waste a lynch on him if we have a better shot at killing scum.


i think the ted cruz would be obvious third party or sk. but that's just me.
i also think shiida was killed as a mock target in order for us to sus her targets.
 
^okay what about them? maybe you should try analysing

my big take away from it is his support for Tardis. which i just wrote about
I posted it because I don't think a lot of people paid attention to it, so I wanna bump it up for others too

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Lets not all forget Tardis wrote this originally in his Questionaire
Tardis2016 said:
1. I'm in CDT timezone.
2.. I will reply to it.
3. I like being on the town side because I don't feel like I'm trying to lynch my scum partners.
4. I will try and not roleclaim so early and try to be more active I think both of them almost got me lynched in the last game but it was canceled.

they said it was in reference to their previous affiliation with mafia in Tarot or something. I know I questioned them, but then the stuff with Shondell and Aron happened so I lost track

Tardis2016 said:
I'm going to compare the 2 accounts that are modkilled. I feel like 1 of the 2 replacements are going to be a scum.

This was way after it was relevant too, so the whole action of wanting to compare those two was just weird. Another parallel was that Daniel tried to scum read Crys based on their actions about Shondell/honey, so I find it funny that Tardis focused a lot on it too.

Tardis2016 said:
Sorry! I thought I would be helping town!
so forced, so bleh, its not necessary to like outwardly say that.

Tardis2016 said:
I'm reading Alexi scum but I'm not sure because she keeps flip flopping around.

Quote Originally Posted by Alexi View Post
yeah I can just see it as giving a first time player some general advice really.

@aron you were pretty sus to me in the beginning but like I said earlier thats pretty much gone so I'm as well not voting for you. think it's been established that voting our doctor is well.. stupid.
care you explain a little more on the sus of ness though? do you just agree with whats been said or maybe something new?
She is no longer sus of Aron so she is defending him because she believes him after he claimed to be doctor and is trying to help him.

Quote Originally Posted by Alexi View Post
the more i look into it, the more aron screams scum.

aron if you really want to make some good guesses and lynch some scum, maybe a read on someone who hasn't been already mentioned? or even someone who has been but for different reasons you find sus?
Do you still think that Aron is still the doctor? And you are no longer defending him. I'm asking this because you are no longer believing him. Or you are no longer showing it.

I think its funny you called out Alexi here because literally an hour before this she complimented you for understanding things better. and you literally said, I really want to help town Alexi. Then you turned so quickly on her because other people started voting them

You also called out Alexi for being flip flopping but you yourself had called out Ness the day before because people were talking about him at that time. Here

Tardis2016 said:
How am I quick to agree with someone? And @alexi I think Ness is scum.
So yeah the time before you were accusing Ness and talking to Alexi...

you have no consistent stream of accusations, you seem to jump from whoever is the topic of the day to the next, Daniel seemed to support you a lot from his reads and posts, and Inkling never mentioned you when he went out in a blaze of glory. For all this I feel confident in keeping my vote on you today

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after it wasn't really relevant*
whats underneath Tardis' second quote
 
This is what I think Aron could be the Mafia doctor and Kat could be the town doctor.
Curious as to hear your reasoning on this. I've been toying with the idea of mafia Doc, but I'm pretty against it.

@Toads Your reasonings seem pretty good overall, but Daniel could have been trying to pocket him. That being said, I wanna read back on his read of Tardis to see how justified it is.

Daniel's whole "is this a softclaim" thing puts me on edge to think Daniel and Tardis are alligned, though. If anything, Tardis might be neutral.

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Oh, and Toads, what're your thoughts on Heyden/Alexi?
 
I will try to look back at their posts.... I think I would be more sus of Alexi than Heyden though honestly. I don't think Inkling or Daniel really interacted with her, and Inkling said something about Heyden making similar posts, which I don't think he would do if they were scum buds.

Not to mention Alexi's town meta is so strong. Real life stuff or nah, she just seems off

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seeing as how Daniel took it upon himself to bus Inkling (although it was so weak like omg), clearly there wasn't any strategy in Inkling's rant posts to bus his fellow scummies, so the fact that Inkling tried drawing attention to Heyden makes me think he is town

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also Tardis even seemed ok with my scum read of him

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Looking back Daniel labeled Alexi as sus, but I mean if he posted that around the time she was starting to get votes I have no problem believing he would start to build that case to bus his scum partner (I'll look into when he posted his reads)

I mean he did it when Inkling exploded and people started voting...

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he posted his reads yesterday at 12:20pm EST... so doesn't correlate with anything really lol
but Alexi has had plenty people scum read her, and after the inkling thing mafia may have thought it would be a good idea to bus each other
 
Curious as to hear your reasoning on this. I've been toying with the idea of mafia Doc, but I'm pretty against it.

@Toads Your reasonings seem pretty good overall, but Daniel could have been trying to pocket him. That being said, I wanna read back on his read of Tardis to see how justified it is.

Daniel's whole "is this a softclaim" thing puts me on edge to think Daniel and Tardis are alligned, though. If anything, Tardis might be neutral.

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Oh, and Toads, what're your thoughts on Heyden/Alexi?

I looked @ the old games they had a open set up and that game had 2 docs and one of them was a mafia doctor.

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I will try to look back at their posts.... I think I would be more sus of Alexi than Heyden though honestly. I don't think Inkling or Daniel really interacted with her, and Inkling said something about Heyden making similar posts, which I don't think he would do if they were scum buds.

Not to mention Alexi's town meta is so strong. Real life stuff or nah, she just seems off

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seeing as how Daniel took it upon himself to bus Inkling (although it was so weak like omg), clearly there wasn't any strategy in Inkling's rant posts to bus his fellow scummies, so the fact that Inkling tried drawing attention to Heyden makes me think he is town

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also Tardis even seemed ok with my scum read of him

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Looking back Daniel labeled Alexi as sus, but I mean if he posted that around the time she was starting to get votes I have no problem believing he would start to build that case to bus his scum partner (I'll look into when he posted his reads)

I mean he did it when Inkling exploded and people started voting...

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he posted his reads yesterday at 12:20pm EST... so doesn't correlate with anything really lol
but Alexi has had plenty people scum read her, and after the inkling thing mafia may have thought it would be a good idea to bus each other

@toad maybe I'm thinking what to say about your read about me. I'm not okay with your read.
 
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