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no I have, its just I feel better with a Tardis lynch rn... have you read their posts? they kinda seem like they are getting fed information a little bit, no consistent stream of consciousness ( was saying Ness was scum, then came back the next day and jumped on your bandwagon without any explanation), Daniel wrote them as town lean, and Inkling never touched him in their rants.

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and now they claimed Sean Hannity which I think is a meh claim. and then have not come back

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With Heyden I think yeah he is saying some scummy stuff right now, but I think its just brutally honest and annoying... the JoAT thing was the stupidest thing, but I mean we saw that coming, its just we shouldn't have put it out there.

and with you, I really like your claim. Seems like a legit person to be a townie, don't know how you would've made that up. so I prefer to lynch tardis right now

Hmm.. maybe I overlooked him. I'll look back on his posts now, it was weird how he claimed then got very quiet. but for day 2 I'm still in favor of lynching the PR hunter.
 
Hmm.. maybe I overlooked him. I'll look back on his posts now, it was weird how he claimed then got very quiet. but for day 2 I'm still in favor of lynching the PR hunter.

yeah it is true he has been super involved in trying to make a Vig role claim from last night, or people claim today.... like weirdly obsessed. I'm definitely more sus of him now than I was start of day 2. Going back to my favorite though, Inkling talk about Heyden a little bit and not in a like "bussing" way. Heyden did straight up ask Inkling who he thought was Scum right before getting lynched which was a very pro-town move. However if anyone was gonna be bold and forward enough to tell Inkling to specifically say something, it would've been Heyden

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Heyden would've told Inkling to say stuff in the quick topic before being lynched is what I mean in that last little bit
 
I guess the main difference I see between Heyden and Tardis for me is experience. Tardis is new, so I'm not entirely confident he's not being contributive, ect. out of not really being sure how. I know Heyden's abilities as a player, and he's far underperforming, plus the whole inkling and Daniel townreading him thing. So I am much more confident in a Heyden lynch, thiugh I could see a Tardis counterwagon being good.
 
oh my god

Okay, firstly. Why am I not posting? Because it's so f***ing hard to scumread. You're all going off meta. This is literally my first main game. I know basically, what, 3 of you? It's really hard to keep track too. What else would you like me to post? memes? Now I know why I stuck to newbie games. I am reading. I am looking. I am not avoiding the thread. Earlier, at 3am my time. I was asleep. Then I was at school. Now I'm home, and getting stuff thrown at me bc I post some stuff on other parts of the forum. I have a life outside mafia.

Point two. I want to vote for either Alexi or Aron bc they've both been flipflopping around, and going by my last game that's pretty sus. Aron pleading to be spared until day 4 sounds really weird to me too. But I'm going to vote for Alexi for now, and may change if Aron does something or something else happens.

Kinda curious about Xine's views on me. Since everyone seems so convinced that she's townie after hitting scum. Did everyone forget about third party?
 
oh my god

Okay, firstly. Why am I not posting? Because it's so f***ing hard to scumread. You're all going off meta. This is literally my first main game. I know basically, what, 3 of you? It's really hard to keep track too. What else would you like me to post? memes? Now I know why I stuck to newbie games. I am reading. I am looking. I am not avoiding the thread. Earlier, at 3am my time. I was asleep. Then I was at school. Now I'm home, and getting stuff thrown at me bc I post some stuff on other parts of the forum. I have a life outside mafia.

Point two. I want to vote for either Alexi or Aron bc they've both been flipflopping around, and going by my last game that's pretty sus. Aron pleading to be spared until day 4 sounds really weird to me too. But I'm going to vote for Alexi for now, and may change if Aron does something or something else happens.

Kinda curious about Xine's views on me. Since everyone seems so convinced that she's townie after hitting scum. Did everyone forget about third party?

This is aggressive is as aggressive gets wow? I said that one tiny thing about you, I'm not even voting you or have you as high sus lol
 
I think with how we are set up right now... there's absolutely no way Aron can get around tonight, if he lives again or some other things happen we will be able to know, he is backed into a corner and I think really only has one move to prove his doctor-ness
 
This is aggressive is as aggressive gets wow? I said that one tiny thing about you, I'm not even voting you or have you as high sus lol

I'm not voting for you because you said something about me. I don't vote for defense. I've voted for you because I think you're scum??? Isn't this a no brainer?
 
I'm not voting for you because you said something about me. I don't vote for defense. I've voted for you because I think you're scum??? Isn't this a no brainer?

So you think I'm scum because I'm flip flopping around. This really makes me think you haven't read my recent posts enough, cause I haven't been at all since explaining myself day 1.
 
Good morning everyone
I've finally caught up with the thread, and there are a few odd things I've noticed...

if you wanna lynch town. lynch me. i do not care. lol. i'm going to flip town. enjoy your murder.

I did that on my first game LOLOL
btw, threatening to flip townie doesn't work unless you prove your claim so
gg

no i'm trump's cheese grater. literally. a cheese grater.

100% seriously. i hate my life. today has not been a good day. i'm a cheese grater.

'cheese grater' ?
Honestly, after seeing tae's posts, and how he threatened to flip townie and just not caring much, not to mention his inactivity and lack of participation, is making me believe he's yellow.
after all, 'cheese' is yellow so.... 'cheese grater'? coincidence? eh, maybe

anyways, we all need to keep an eye on tae because he may be sided with scum if he is yellow
not to mention he's inactive, and you shouldn't scrutinize inactives and automatically call them scum

what you need to do is stalk them and see if they're avoiding the thread, and basicially pick apart each and every of their posts since there's nothing much to go by from them

STOP ROLECLAIMING YOU DINGUSES.

ty for making me laugh

Well might as well keep track..
Aronthaer- Doctor
SarasaKat- 'Doctor'
Crys- Miller
Alexi- Townie
Tardis2016- Townie
Taesaek- Townie

So tae claimed townie.... this is making me think he might be town-sided yellow. Just a thought
also everyone claiming seems kinda stupid tbh, like I know y'all are n00bs but damn XD

and.... I'm starting to wonder about Crys, I just have an odd feeling about them.... idk
they seemed to claim Miller as a way to stay off the radar, but idk
might just be a weird gut feeling

No matter what happens, we have two goons down! Thats pretty sick for day 2 in such a big game! I know it sounds pretty shallow, but maybe an Aron lynch would be good? he seems like he is trying to pull something and keep living, perhaps a Godfather or something? but if we lynch him now, all this double doctor **** might come to a head... Cadberry is right, Sarasa's doctor claim is at least supported by Xine whom we all take for a legit town!
If we take out Aron now, we could possibly figure something out or at least stop all the speculation surrounding him that everyone seems fed up going in circles about

^^^^^^^ hello!!??! guys, didn't my second/third posts point to making a case/reads on Aron?!
his doctor claim sounds like bs to me because looking back it sounded like it was a desperate last-minute attempt to claim and be safe and his post where he says to keep him alive for 2 more days sounds like another excuse to coast

Aron, idgaf about what these other people say to you/insult you or whatever, I want to see you post and participate because just because you're being inactive to avoid the salt/arguing is a stupid lousy excuse
like
hello
get your *** in here and participate because I'm reading back and examining your posts and you look like you're claiming just to coast and not play; if you're town then PROVE IT by helping us
when I was new I had a hard time helping town but at least I tried to instead of coasting

I want specifically from you a semi-well-though out reads/case on everyone so far or your opinions on them
and not just an 'eh, everyone's sorta scummy and sorta townie' fake*** reads but a legit reads
yes, you're new, and yes, it probably sounds daunting, but please just try!!! I want to see your opinions before I make any opinions myself because you sound hella sketchy the more I reread your D1 posts
and not to mention if you really are doctor you'll probably get killed overnight so you might as well just post and say something before you die, ya know?

idk maybe i'm not a cheese grater.
why am i the only inanimate object tbh.

what's your legit actual role name?
I honestly doubt it's "cheese grater", if anything maybe "Trump Tower" or something like that

im sorry but I'm dead set that alexi is scum, I just feel so confident.

alexi is scum though. It's not wasting a lynch and imo activity shouldn't decide a lynch.

Why is Alexi scum?? I want to see your case on her before you vote her or shove a bandwagon on her *** because she can't 'just be scum'
I feel dead confident Aron fake-claimed, but guess what? Meow or others will probably attack me or make sure I die overnight if I dig up more of Aron's bs and D1 posts so
I better see some reads from you soon, and hopefully a case and not just a bandwagon too

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oh my god I just realized I made a wall of text lmao sorry
 
@lucanosa I'm glad to see you putting strides into helping us :D I brought up that post you quoted to bring up the possibility of lynching him to see if anyone else could see how advantageous it would be to actually know if he was telling the truth or not. I honestly can see the scenario being true of him just stupidly role claiming then getting down about himself. But with whats happened with Sarasa and stuff too, Aron really only has one move tonight if he is a true doctor... yeah theres role blockers and stuff, but I think we should have a good idea of what should happen with them tonight
 
oh my god

Okay, firstly. Why am I not posting? Because it's so f***ing hard to scumread. You're all going off meta. This is literally my first main game. I know basically, what, 3 of you? It's really hard to keep track too. What else would you like me to post? memes? Now I know why I stuck to newbie games. I am reading. I am looking. I am not avoiding the thread. Earlier, at 3am my time. I was asleep. Then I was at school. Now I'm home, and getting stuff thrown at me bc I post some stuff on other parts of the forum. I have a life outside mafia.

Point two. I want to vote for either Alexi or Aron bc they've both been flipflopping around, and going by my last game that's pretty sus. Aron pleading to be spared until day 4 sounds really weird to me too. But I'm going to vote for Alexi for now, and may change if Aron does something or something else happens.

Kinda curious about Xine's views on me. Since everyone seems so convinced that she's townie after hitting scum. Did everyone forget about third party?

Not everyone is going off meta, but I won't entirely disagree. if you want you can look into the TBT wiki and it gives you a list of everyone's previous games + alignments.

Reads are best when they are based off inconsistencies, not entirely meta.

can you elaborate- flip flopping on what? I just think this whole thing is ironic because I started Alexi's lynch and now I don't want it, like I'm pretty sure I'm the only one that made a case on her and all of a sudden everyone is sheeping it now.

it's in 3rd partys interest to leave scum alive as well in order to not lower KP for as long as possible- it only makes sense for them to start scumhunting in the middle or in the end of the game. scumhunting would also make yourself a night target which you obviously don't want either as SK. Xine is 99% confirmed not mafia and like 80% confirmed not 3rd party. also, Xine barely used meta cause she's only played one game on TBT.
 
Good morning everyone
I've finally caught up with the thread, and there are a few odd things I've noticed...



I did that on my first game LOLOL
btw, threatening to flip townie doesn't work unless you prove your claim so
gg





'cheese grater' ?
Honestly, after seeing tae's posts, and how he threatened to flip townie and just not caring much, not to mention his inactivity and lack of participation, is making me believe he's yellow.
after all, 'cheese' is yellow so.... 'cheese grater'? coincidence? eh, maybe

anyways, we all need to keep an eye on tae because he may be sided with scum if he is yellow
not to mention he's inactive, and you shouldn't scrutinize inactives and automatically call them scum


So tae claimed townie.... this is making me think he might be town-sided yellow. Just a thought
also everyone claiming seems kinda stupid tbh, like I know y'all are n00bs but damn XD



what's your legit actual role name?
I honestly doubt it's "cheese grater", if anything maybe "Trump Tower" or something like that

lol my legit town roll is "Donald Trumps Cheese Grater."

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if you wanna believe i'm yellow go for it, it really wont get you anywhere.


i'd fight you, but sadly i have no arms.
 
lol my legit town roll is "Donald Trumps Cheese Grater."

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if you wanna believe i'm yellow go for it, it really wont get you anywhere.


i'd fight you, but sadly i have no arms.

that last quote "rubbed me the wrong way"
I don't actually mean it, its just a grater joke
 
that last quote "rubbed me the wrong way"
I don't actually mean it, its just a grater joke

....i hate you so much. but i also love you for that.

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but in all honestly luca, you went from,
"tae is yellow bc cheese is yellow."(cheese is white as well, and cheese can also have holes, am i holey yellow cheese?)
to..
"tae is mafia-sided yellow"
to..
"tae claimed town, he's town-sided yellow."

what.
 
Not everyone is going off meta, but I won't entirely disagree. if you want you can look into the TBT wiki and it gives you a list of everyone's previous games + alignments.

Reads are best when they are based off inconsistencies, not entirely meta.

can you elaborate- flip flopping on what? I just think this whole thing is ironic because I started Alexi's lynch and now I don't want it, like I'm pretty sure I'm the only one that made a case on her and all of a sudden everyone is sheeping it now.

it's in 3rd partys interest to leave scum alive as well in order to not lower KP for as long as possible- it only makes sense for them to start scumhunting in the middle or in the end of the game. scumhunting would also make yourself a night target which you obviously don't want either as SK. Xine is 99% confirmed not mafia and like 80% confirmed not 3rd party. also, Xine barely used meta cause she's only played one game on TBT.

Big freaking dot.

Thank you. Like really I'm waiting for this case from Crys, Heyden and Aron since they've all voted for me but with no reasoning and while day 2 is getting closer to the end it's starting to bother me they'll probably get away without putting in any explanation.

But it is nice to see fresh reads from Ayaya and Lucanosa (props to catching up on the thread btw. grate d1 right?)
 
I still find Heyden very suspect. This whole day he's been asking for PRs to out themselves and even made a cohesive list (like Panda said) to make sure everyone knew. So many things he's said even since my last post about him have been even more scummy, I'll list just a few:
Heyden said:
Yeah, it would be good to claim right now...
Heyden said:
TARDIS WE DIDNT ASK YOU TO CLAIM
You literally just asked people to claim, and then scream at someone for claiming.
Heyden said:
i always try to change my meta, like acting scummy in this game
I get trying to change up your meta, but why would you intentionally look more scummy as a townie? That just makes posts like this one happen.
Heyden said:
Well it's not like someone didn't notice the claims. If I was scum why would I be sharing it in public instead of heading to my quicktopic?
Why share it at all though? Every townie should have the initiative to go and find who has claimed what, this literally just helps give mafia a check list. Just because you put it in public doesn't mean you couldn't then go and copy and pasted it right over to the quick topic, though as someone else mentioned, you could be 3rd party and since you have no QT (from what I understand) you have to put it in public.
Heyden said:
oh well u caught me!!
"Joke posts" really don't hep you in mafia.
Heyden said:
w/e I'm just really frustrated with everything at the moment, just gonna vote Alexi because she keeps pushing me for weak reasons so..
"Someone is accusing me so clearly I need to go vote for them with no reasoning of my own." Inb4 this post makes him switch his vote immediately to me, even though he said his vote on Alexi is very firm. I'm not saying Alexi couldn't possibly be scum since I haven't dove into their posts in depth yet, but I had to bring this up.

Heyden said:
@Ayaya yeah I've had a couple of people make reads/cases on me. Not sure why those 2 even townread me...

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I start school tomorrow so I won't be there for the last 6 hours of day so if you want me to claim, the next few hours is a good time because you wouldn't want me dying
Well since you're unsure:
Inkling said:
heyden is following his typical meta so is probs town.

Call me Daniel said:
Heyden- Aggressive and a bit pushy this game which i would say would be scummy, but you did the same in other games too, so it fits in with your town meta. Not reserved or holding anything bad it seems. Will wait patiently or your reads and concrete thoughts on the game so far. Seems to be pretty helpful. Town reading.
Above you said you were trying to change your meta, which again I haven't seen, but according to the two dead mafia it's generally the same. So if you really are, apparently you're doing a bad job.

I'll try and do some more scum reads but Heyden is my strongest case right now.
 
I'm just gonna leave this huge contradiction right here, since I forgot to in my case and now I'm sad about it.

I don't see how I seem scum? I've been acting how I usually act as town..
i always try to change my meta, like acting scummy in this game :lemon:


also @ toadsworthy: I did read back on tardis's posts and actually I do get what you're saying now but yeah Heyden is still my most sus read.
 
I'm just gonna leave this huge contradiction right here, since I forgot to in my case and now I'm sad about it.





also @ toadsworthy: I did read back on tardis's posts and actually I do get what you're saying now but yeah Heyden is still my most sus read.
Ooh I missed that. Nice catch, Alexi!

Curry, what are your thoughts on other players? I appreciate the case against Heyden, but you haven't really commented on others as of late.

And one of your points is seriously flawed, but Imma let Heyden reply first before bringing it up.
 
Ooh I missed that. Nice catch, Alexi!

Curry, what are your thoughts on other players? I appreciate the case against Heyden, but you haven't really commented on others as of late.

And one of your points is seriously flawed, but Imma let Heyden reply first before bringing it up.

I'm working on other player reads right now, Heyden has just been my strongest feeling so far. I'll have thoughts on other players before day ends.

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I also have shoots today from 2:30 to 6 pm est so I'll be gone for a while relatively soon.
 
I think for me, I'm seeing Heyden as just a scummy person right now not necessarily a scummy mafia though (does that make sense?)... he is feigning disinterest, acting rude, calling out PRs and then yelling at people for claiming, so he's saying all this wonky stuff all the time to like keep himself entertained. I don't think he is caring enough to play "correctly". yeah its annoying, but I genuinely think he is trying to play outside his meta and be different for the lolz.

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I think for me, I'm seeing Heyden as just a scummy person right now not necessarily a scummy mafia though (does that make sense?)... he is feigning disinterest, acting rude, calling out PRs and then yelling at people for claiming, so he's saying all this wonky stuff all the time to like keep himself entertained. I don't think he is caring enough to play "correctly". yeah its annoying, but I genuinely think he is trying to play outside his meta and be different for the lolz.

yeah he is acting scummy ( I am still sus of him), but its not hitting as genuinely hence why I don't want to vote him right now.
 
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