Mafia Make Mafia Grate Again! Game Over! Town wins!

[Aronthaer]

This feels very unnecessary. I said I forgot one thing.

K.

 

[PandaDarling]

I think panda is the most likely mafia considering she's still alive at this point.

@Crys considering im still alive ? im usually one of the last players alive in each game, except when Ness is mafia. plus consider who still alive i don't know what to think Ayaya Sarasakat Xine M3ow they are all stronger players imo andstill alive so i don't know why your came up with this opinion.

-im just now getting up im going to make my case on Mother and Qwerty today like i said please just give me some time it will be up before i go to work.

 

[Aronthaer]

Luca's dying wish was that we lynch Tardis. Not sure what to make of that, whether they had actual information and a legitimate reason for doing so or if it was just a guess.

 

[PandaDarling]

has anyone been mafia with Daniel before? do you know if he likes to buss or not? whats his scum meta?

 

[glow]

@Crys considering im still alive ? im usually one of the last players alive in each game, except when Ness is mafia. plus consider who still alive i don't know what to think Ayaya Sarasakat Xine M3ow they are all stronger players imo andstill alive so i don't know why your came up with this opinion.

-im just now getting up im going to make my case on Mother and Qwerty today like i said please just give me some time it will be up before i go to work.

most of us have sussed Ayaya, don't think that she'll die anytime soon. xine was hit. they probably won't try to hit xine again because they know that she's likely to have doc on her. sarasa was hit and is likely to be a n3 target.

maf/sk is looking for cop, though, so i wouldn't be surprised if the rest stay alive.

 

[Chris]

I think panda is the most likely mafia considering she's still alive at this point.

@Crys considering im still alive ? im usually one of the last players alive in each game, except when Ness is mafia. plus consider who still alive i don't know what to think Ayaya Sarasakat Xine M3ow they are all stronger players imo andstill alive so i don't know why your came up with this opinion.

Xine and Sarasa have both taken hits though apparently, so that's the reason they're alive. They have been targeted. Doesn't clear Xine entirely but I think we're safe to think Sarasa is town by this point.

 

[glow]

Luca's dying wish was that we lynch Tardis. Not sure what to make of that, whether they had actual information and a legitimate reason for doing so or if it was just a guess.

this is why you should post reads before night ends... personally I don't think we should lynch Tardis today, I'd rather lynch llamas

 

[PandaDarling]

Xine and Sarasa have both taken hits though apparently, so that's the reason they're alive. They have been targeted. Doesn't clear Xine entirely but I think we're safe to think Sarasa is town by this point.

most of us have sussed Ayaya, don't think that she'll die anytime soon. xine was hit. they probably won't try to hit xine again because they know that she's likely to have doc on her. sarasa was hit and is likely to be a n3 target.

maf/sk is looking for cop, though, so i wouldn't be surprised if the rest stay alive.

i know, i wasn't arguing that they are mafia i was just stating the fact that i don't think its weird im still alive, in every games I've been in i still alive till the end (unless Nes shoots me N1) ha

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this is why you should post reads before night ends... personally I don't think we should lynch Tardis today, I'd rather lynch llamas

@M3ow i agree i think a Mother lynch is our best bet today.

 

[toadsworthy]

Ok! my first person I wanted to look into was Panda...

@Daniel you too ? You Ness and Heyden all haven't made any reads D1 ? come on, and none of you have any excuse, you are all experienced players. this is some BS.

You were forcing / pressuring people (including Scum Daneil) to make reads. Thats not necessarily bussing and really reads Town to me. I'm leaning town for you more.

@Alexi assuming your not mafia i doubt you will be killed cause your sus af atm. ha.

this just doesn't sound like something one mafia says to another out in the open.... like its so just so casual

@Alexi like i stated underneath it.. i just moved people around according to the the information we received from the night kills and such and i have yet to go back and find more suspicions, i have a lot of Null people in there and im sure thats were the over mafia/sk is hiding.

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Quote Originally Posted by Alexi View Post
please post merge


just wanted to say this was hilarious. ty


something else.. ?
okay so, i could believe this. but if PR's are claiming they might as well be claiming the right PR.... right?

@Alexi wrong. it will most likely be explained to you a bit later but its still not my place to break it down for you rn, sorry.

Like here she just like talks to Alexi about random stuff... I feel like this just seems like townie talk, casual, its not a bussing attempt or like scummy. So its reading very town to me.

@Alexi you pretty much had to ? were you near majority votes ? was it near deadline for D2 ?

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i wouldn't be surprised it all the kills N2 are all PR's.

You also seemed legit upset about role claims lol, even to Alexi hahaha. Again this doesn't seem like things that mafia would say on here to each other, it feels genuine.

You feel genuinely town to me... nothing crazy, and in your interactions with outted mafia you seem genuinely casual to them. I'm giving you a big town lean imo

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also Idk what to look for to determine who is SK, so if that is oddly absent from my reads its because idk about it

 

[Kirbystarship]

Still waiting for Qwerty111 for her reads.

 

[f11]

I'm pretty sure panda is mafia.

 

[glow]

@Toads who do you think is scum then?

 

[Chris]

Fixing post glitch.

 

[Chris]

I'm pretty sure panda is mafia.

Why is that?

 

[Heyden]

tinas double post powers ooOoOhh

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Still waiting for Qwerty111 for her reads.

I'm pretty sure panda is mafia.

Yeah, but why? Haven't seen anything scummy from her this game

 

[Kirbystarship]

I'm pretty sure panda is mafia.

why do you think so?

 

[Curry]

ClamEatsCurry
Cory
Shiida
Taesaek
Lucanosa
Alexi
Inkling
Call me Daniel

Town reads
Xine - I think we can all agree that Xine is pretty pro town. In my last reads I mentioned how he basically single handedly got us the first mafia lynch and has been a pivotal player in D1. I'm curious as to why they weren't there at all during D2 or N2, though they claim to have been busy, but they appear to be back and I still read them as town.

Sarasakat - I buy the doctor hard claim. Xine testifies to her claim and I definitely believe Xine, and Kat has also pushed Heyden, it makes me more confident that she's town.

Toadsworthy - I believe his hard claim, the Jesus name for it makes me lol but after seeing Donald Trump's Cheese Grater, I'm willing to believe a lot of names for roles. They've made constructive posts and their claim on shooting Daniel and no cc against them has me sold.

Cadbberry - Cad hasn't done anything sus to me to be honest. I don't have much of a negative vibe, but not really one that yells "I'm town!" to me either. This is probably my least confident town read.

Crys - I believe their self-aware miller claim, even if I do think two self-aware millers is strange. For the time being though, they are on my town reads for a reason you'll see below.

Undecided reads
Ness - To be completely honest, I haven't paid enough attention to Ness since his disinterest in the game to give an accurate read on him.

Tardis2016 - Says scummy things but may also be dumb town, I can see both angles and haven't decided to lean one way or the other yet until I do more in depth looking.

Tina - Tina just started getting involved yesterday, and while she has already made several contributing posts and reads, I haven't come to a decision on where I personally stand with her yet. I absolutely LOVE that she was the first person to actually doubt Panda though.

Ayaya - Same problem I have with Tina really. Replacement and relatively new, I know they've been helpful but I haven't come to a definitive decision myself yet. I slightly lean sus because Luca died last night and he said he would come with reads on you.

M3ow_ - They've done a lot, but they've thrown me through a loop a bit, so I don't even know.

Qwerty111 - Again, as you will in my case below, I don't think they're as scummy as they seem based on Panda's opinions towards them, and her voting against him on D2 DEFINITELY makes me lean more to town for him, however he himself hasn't done much to say, "Hey, I'm town," so for now he stays neutral.

Scum reads
Mother of all Llamas - Barely does anything, but my suspicion is laid out in Panda's case, so I'll just say that.

Heyden - I don't buy the whole, "I'm a second vig and shot tae," I'm not saying he's necessarily lying, but I'm still not letting go of my case I made yesterday. I'm willing to let it die down because I have a new person at the top of my scum list, but I still haven't let him off the hook.

Panda1376 - Does no one else find it sus that every person who was remotely sus of Panda is either now dead or a lynch vote she had? Don't worry, I checked every most recent list and read from every player that had one, the one exception to this being Tina who posted her reads during twilight if I remember correctly. Does anyone not find that strange?

I find it extremely convenient that anyone Panda has gotten into an altercation with besides M3ow who I wouldn't say is an altercation, have either been pushed for lynch by her or is dead. Cory and tae are both dead, Qwerty was her lynch vote D2, and shiida was on Alexi's trail when she died N1. So this pattern makes sense to me. Shiida suspects Alexi, dies, Cory fights with Panda, dies, SK gets blocked as claime by D2 evidence, Vig shoots Daniel. D2 Panda pushes Qwerty lynch, but doesn't get it, but tae and Luca end up dead D3. One suspect of Panda possibly, and one suspect of Ayaya.

Another exchange that makes me super sus of Panda is this exchange happened between Inkling and Panda:

maybe im not trying to put a big red ex on my back the way aron did.

@Inkling what? oh man i don't know if this is a mafia slip or a PR slip, what do you when put a big red x on your back? we don't want to harm you we just want you to contribute more to be helpful towards us lynching scum.

oh and i promise you thats not going to happen. how about trying to find my scum buds now? then you'd have a case lol. thats some confidence you have there.

ok i think she just slipped too far for me to give her any benefit of the doubt, i was thinking you were just new and emotional, but i think you kinda just pulled a Ness when he made a post "to the town."

What this exchange tells me is that Inkling almost slipped up and Panda tried to help her cover it up, but once Inkling posted the second line, Panda knew she was a lost cause and from then on went on the offense against Inkling.

I have to leave for work shortly but i just wanted to say that i'm all for talking during night phases but at the same time i would be very careful what you say, as to not make anything easy for the scum team.

One of the major things she said in N1 that stuck out to me. In other words, don't say anything that might make us look suspicious or you die.

Now look at what she said to MoAL at the start of today:

@Mother don't come in here telling us you are asking for a replacement cause you can't handle your role (im assuming) and then try to contribute to the game, you are already under our radar and gonna be our lynch confidant (most likely) so if you can't defend yourself don't get a replacement to do it for you? you know what i mean ?

I'll start with the bolded part. Is she assuming? What that line right there sounds like to me is that MoAL was really inactive, the both of them are the final two mafia members remaining and MoAL was literally of no help to Panda. So when MoAL comes to the thread to try and potentially start helping, she lashes out "assuming she can't handle the role." How would she even know that she was a PR to say that though? What this tells me is that Panda made a big slip, and that Panda is a framer, MoAL is a roleblocker and the reason neither doctor has been blocked is because MoAL hadn't been sending in actions. Also, under our radar? MoAL was at the top of lots of peoples "I want to lynch today" list. Yet then they show up, Panda claims they are under the radar and gets frustrated that a replacement may have to make up for MoAL being a terrible roleblocker. I understand frustration of an inactive, but this screams scum to me.

maybe but look at the mafia list so far Inkling, Alexi, & Daniel... if Daniel was the most experienced out of all of them then maybe he just said screw it (especially after the Inkling lynch D1) and left them to fend for themselves ? but i dunno we shall see in 2.5 hours whether or not he can prove his innocence.

Like Tina said, I'd be stunned if the most experienced player from what I hear on the Mafia team was Daniel, so like Tina I think it's one of the ones she listed, namely you as said by this post.

To sum it up, I haven't played with Panda before, but from what I hear she is a very good player. For that reason, I believe she could very easily have found a way to slip and blend in with town. Especially when there are so many new players in the game and she's being helpful to them, why would they consider her mafia when she is being so helpful? Literally no one but Tina, Crys, and I suspects her, so she is doing her job perfect.

Just because I'm not saying a lot doesn't mean I'm not paying attention or trying. There are my reads people want so bad.

 

[Heyden]

If I claimed before Toad would that've made him the scummy one?? I don't understand why people are having a hard time intaking that fact I'm vig, even since there's 2 docs and 2 milllers

 

[toadsworthy]

Can we talk a minute about what crys has done this game?

they fake claimed peaking Alexi and then rode her into the ground until she got lynched and of course she knew Alexi was scum if they were on the same team. the fact that they were so set on Alexi getting lynched and knowing they were scum, I'm pretty sure I asked and your reasoning was just, I peaked at her. Nothing else. But that was off a fake claim?

So then you come out saying you were a miller to let any cop know that if you try to look at me, obviously its gonna come up scummy. Which seems like a perfect claim to make to hide as scum, because the only way to get caught was by other people calling out any bs which with all these claims to distract no one would be able to do for a while... and I mean Luca coming up as miller is making you look more suspicious. A second doctor (which is confirmed by people saying so), a second Vig (determined sort of by the kills), but also a second Miller too? seems a little farfetched.

also Inkling was like of the last people to make a vote. By this point, SOMEONE from his mafia team mustve been telling him what to do, so they said bus Crys to try to hide them

I await your response to this as well as what other people think

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@Toads who do you think is scum then?

I just posted something about Crys' whole strategy this game, but I mean its just a thoery

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If I claimed before Toad would that've made him the scummy one?? I don't understand why people are having a hard time intaking that fact I'm vig, even since there's 2 docs and 2 milllers

well, I mean an extra big makes sense with the kills we've seen last night....

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shiida said right before dying to go for Crys, but we all wrote that off as they used it for framing purposes... but it could've been to reverse psychology the town

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Shiida was very vocal about it so of course we knew we would take that into account

 

[Kirbystarship]

Can we talk a minute about what crys has done this game?

they fake claimed peaking Alexi and then rode her into the ground until she got lynched and of course she knew Alexi was scum if they were on the same team. the fact that they were so set on Alexi getting lynched and knowing they were scum, I'm pretty sure I asked and your reasoning was just, I peaked at her. Nothing else. But that was off a fake claim?

So then you come out saying you were a miller to let any cop know that if you try to look at me, obviously its gonna come up scummy. Which seems like a perfect claim to make to hide as scum, because the only way to get caught was by other people calling out any bs which with all these claims to distract no one would be able to do for a while... and I mean Luca coming up as miller is making you look more suspicious. A second doctor (which is confirmed by people saying so), a second Vig (determined sort of by the kills), but also a second Miller too? seems a little farfetched.

also Inkling was like of the last people to make a vote. By this point, SOMEONE from his mafia team mustve been telling him what to do, so they said bus Crys to try to hide them

I await your response to this as well as what other people think

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I just posted something about Crys' whole strategy this game, but I mean its just a thoery

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well, I mean an extra big makes sense with the kills we've seen last night....

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shiida said right before dying to go for Crys, but we all wrote that off as they used it for framing purposes... but it could've been to reverse psychology the town

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Shiida was very vocal about it so of course we knew we would take that into account

@toad I think crys is a cop she almost sounded like she knew Alexi was going to be a scum her tone in her text.