This is stuff I had notes on earlier. Was looking into the random/trent timing, etc... Was also looking to see when shawo addressed random specifically. I don't want to elim wrong.
So d1, some elim players, some no elim. Pro elim was mostly sheep, myself, tessa, and shawo. Tae I believe (hindsight) was ok with elim but not sold on trent?
It seemed (to me) that while shawo was pushing votes, he was directing his posts more toward people who dislike d1 no elim, and was actively steering away from voting random. He also was offering up multiple 'why the got it was town/not maf' opinions as well. Some ex-
We should push one of the active players today. There's no elim dynamics if we try to kill random. I'll force a bw between me and my biggest fos if I need to as well.
I actually agree that random probably needs to die if this is how they're going to play content - but the d1 elim split is going to give way more information than anything, barring lucky det rolls.
Regardless - we're not really playing for anything by killing Random. They likely sub out, or just die on the next day (or get det checked.) We can get team dynamics just by watching how votes play out.
Oh and, while Got it being a mafia slip would be really funny. (Imagine. Mafia partner telling Random to post, and Random posts got it in the forum lol.) It really doesn't seem maffy because realistically if someone was coaching Random to post... they'd probably give more guidance. Realistically Random just posted for... X reason.
TL;DR given the time in the game that was posted, and the context, I'd expect mafia!random to have posted a better post. Even due to coaching. The post itself is inherently null value from a gameplay perspective, but given the fact that everyone else in the game seems competent enough, it stands to reason that anyone would've/could've/should've coached random to do... literally anything else. Granted there's a big assumption here in that mafia!random would respond to coaching at all, given how the games going, and I do think random's next post was really bad, but that's the circumstance behind why I said it when I did.
Another big reason I'm very set on the Trent vote, is I feel like it helps solve. IMO - Random/Trent are both inherently similar as far as contribution to the game is going, the difference is Trent has posted actively and read. If Trent!Town, we can see how people split onto the vote vs no elim. Trent!Maf probably just wins the game on the spot as well.
Hey guys. Funny theory. What if Random was responding to Daniel's mod PM asking for them to be more active in the thread. Doesn't that offer a perfect explanation for the Got It without making them explicitly mafia?
Also, the timing of these is worth looking at-
Post282- I give big post, say I'm probably voting tae
284 - shawo declares maf!trent and votes trent.
286 shawo quotes and responds to my 'I'm voting tae' - this is when shawo says he'll flip his vote if it avoids no elim
294 sheep gives reads, and mentions that he is willing to vote random in order to avoid no elim
295 shawo quotes/responds to sheep - states that sheep might be maf, discusses random and trent having similar contribution to the game (?!) and then gives reasons why we should vote trent (saving random for another day)
It's just all pointing more to shawo/random. After those posts, shawo asks sheep to vote trent, tells sheep to vote trent, asks tae about trent, then @s me and tae directly to both vote trent and it's just trent, trent, trent.
If it's not random, then I'll be surprised. I don't know why else shawo would actively steer it away. Was he just trent targeting or trying to protect partner?
I'll have more time later and will look into others.
Also -
i don’t think it’s tessa, i know it’s not me & if it came down to it- i would consider voting betsy if someone had a strong enough argument.
I know it's not me, so I'll be giving counter arguments, lol.
